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Reply #1410 - Sep 7th, 2024 at 6:10am
 
Knee and belly are more specific to balearic type slings. In these slings the way the pouch splits gives the appearance of a knee due to the way the braids are overlaid immediately prior to the split. Belly is the part of the release cord following the rejoin which is the fattest part of the sling.

On soft vs hard pouches, my take is that smoother/rounder ammo can benefit from softer pouches as it will provide better grip and is unlikely to get caught. Harder pouches are preferred for rougher ammo as rougher ammo will catch in soft pouches.
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Reply #1411 - Sep 7th, 2024 at 10:20am
 
Does the belly have to be fat?  I was thinking if you drop material an inch, or so, before the join, the belly would be thinner and more flexible.  I was gonna try it, but the sling I'm working on is for a friend who hasn't done any slinging, so I figured it should be a 'standard' sling.
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Reply #1412 - Sep 8th, 2024 at 5:15pm
 
ScantPalaver wrote on Sep 7th, 2024 at 10:20am:
Does the belly have to be fat?  I was thinking if you drop material an inch, or so, before the join, the belly would be thinner and more flexible.  I was gonna try it, but the sling I'm working on is for a friend who hasn't done any slinging, so I figured it should be a 'standard' sling.


It doesn't have to be, but that is the standard for balearic slings. Different approaches will probably handle a bit differently.
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Reply #1413 - Sep 24th, 2024 at 3:17pm
 
So a possibly weird question sorry... Is there any material to be put on the end of a sling that dissipates the energy but actually makes the sling more quiet than just empy paracord when it cracks (rather than just removing a cracker entirely)?

Realize slingers in general probably tend to like the cracking but am actually sensitive to sound and the better I've gotten at making/using my own paracord-slings the more they've actually hurt my ears while testing them; have come to sling with earphones with soft music in for this exact reason. 🤷‍♂️
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Reply #1414 - Sep 25th, 2024 at 5:25am
 
Klydd,
Yup, weird question ....or Im doing something wrong as my paracord sling does not crack.
In fact, only one of my braided slings has cracked ....fitted with a cracker.
Just a thought, slinging with earphones must be at least as dangerous as riding a bike or horse with earphones......if you aren't fully aware of your surroundings you are a danger to yourself and others....remember a sling is designed to kill and injure.
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Reply #1415 - Sep 26th, 2024 at 10:04am
 
xud9a - call me zud 👍 wrote on Sep 25th, 2024 at 5:25am:
Klydd,
Yup, weird question ....or Im doing something wrong as my paracord sling does not crack.
In fact, only one of my braided slings has cracked ....fitted with a cracker.
Just a thought, slinging with earphones must be at least as dangerous as riding a bike or horse with earphones......if you aren't fully aware of your surroundings you are a danger to yourself and others....remember a sling is designed to kill and injure.
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Ah... Well all of mine crack really loud imo but again am sensitive to sound so maybe not loud to others (?). They tend to sound sharp like foldable paper crackers (dk if those are common knowledge?) when I remove all the inners; louder when keeping a few strands.

Are you also doing the tapering towards the ends with yours? That has made mine louder by a LOT since finding out about it.

Yeah had a single incident this summer (other than that none) where a guy with a dog came walking up to my left; didn't see or hear him at all. Had a misfire and the rock flew 45 degrees left in his direction. Luckily passed in front of him by 10 meters or so and way over his head so neither he nor his dog seemed to even notice luckily. It's not ideal though so would prefer if the slings made a "thwomp" rather than cracked when throwing if that makes sense (?).

Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCPpRmzQmw0

^They sound a bit like that but sharper and probably louder; it's not a pleasant sound.
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Reply #1416 - Sep 26th, 2024 at 12:41pm
 
Klydd wrote on Sep 24th, 2024 at 3:17pm:
(rather than just removing a cracker entirely)?

Do you really need a cracker ? I say that because it seems that there is a real problem.
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Reply #1417 - Sep 27th, 2024 at 10:19am
 
For more silence (but not fully silent) slings, try using a tab. Anything that adds weight to the release cord end that interrupts the whip-like action of the release cord will help silence it. But it also makes it flail around more on your throw and can whip/hit stuff easier.

I used to always use tabs and the sling makes more of a 'swoosh' or dull thud when you sling rather than a sharp pop.
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Reply #1418 - Oct 14th, 2024 at 9:57pm
 
IronGoober wrote on Sep 27th, 2024 at 10:19am:
For more silence (but not fully silent) slings, try using a tab. Anything that adds weight to the release cord end that interrupts the whip-like action of the release cord will help silence it. But it also makes it flail around more on your throw and can whip/hit stuff easier.

I used to always use tabs and the sling makes more of a 'swoosh' or dull thud when you sling rather than a sharp pop.


Thanks for the reply. Yeah that sounds exactly like what I'm looking for. Idk what a tab is in this instance though (tried searching it but couldn't find info)?
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Reply #1419 - Oct 17th, 2024 at 3:12pm
 
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Reply #1420 - Oct 21st, 2024 at 2:29pm
 
IronGoober wrote on Oct 17th, 2024 at 3:12pm:


Thank you for the tip. Will be trying this in the future; guess I need to get needles. 👍

Another question for anyone... Have just ALMOST finished up my latest sling but this one feels really good and I like the all yellow, so I'd ideally like to make this my main, but having a hard time balancing it. Was now thinking I could just keep the release cord longer, in order to adjust more on the fly for different projectiles, and just hold further up (unlike normally when I hold ON the knot)? It's currently a couple of cm/inch-ish in freedom units longer.

Question is... Is this bad practice? Or should I just shorten it more to where it feels closer to balanced from the get? Would a longer release cord affect accuracy/power negatively (if holding further up like I was thinking of)?

I have tested swinging it with both a tennis ball and a balloon beanbag. As far as the tennis ball is concerned it holds it well, because that's the projectile I had in mind/used to measure out the pocket, but the beanbag seems to want to roll/move closer to the release cord while in the pocket.

Or is it better to just go with different slings for different size/type projectiles if they vary too much (if that's the case would limit this one to tennis balls exclusively)?

Edit: oh and another reason I'm not sure about the balancing is that I haven't braided this one as hard as my previous slings so it has more "give". I pull on either side and it has some/more leeway. Idk wether that's good or bad; still not that experienced at making these.

Taking picture of the sling to show what it looks like now and the size of the beanbag next to the ball for reference on current lengths/sizes. Edit 2: Better to shorten it or keep as is? Normally hold ON the knot with my main (though that one terminates in a single string with a granny knot so it's minimal) but with this I just hold further up, away from it the knot, so the release would be even lighter (which I like).
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Reply #1421 - Feb 14th, 2025 at 1:43am
 
I'm trying something new (to me), and I'm experimenting with a ten-strand braid.
 
Long question short:  Is there any benefit to cords that favor flexing one direction over the other?

Long question long:  I was braiding a pretty solid square, but found if I included an extra strand in a crossing, I was ending up with more of a trapezoidal braid.  It flexes easily one way, but is stiffer in the opposite direction.  Could there be an advantage to a sling that favors the release?
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Reply #1422 - Feb 15th, 2025 at 1:29am
 
With herrinbone braids (e.g. 5-strand braid used for balearic slings), you can flex the braid along its wide edge more easily than along its short edge. This difference in stiffness between adjacent edges is very much desirable, as it allows you to better control the pouch orientation without impeding the release.
Opposing edges should have the same stiffness, otherwise the release cord will probably move weirdly on release I think. That's the reason why odd strand herringbone braids are favored over even strand herringbone braids, for example.
I'm not exactly sure how your trapezoidal braid flexes, what is the angle between the directions you described?
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Reply #1423 - Feb 15th, 2025 at 10:14am
 
180°.  Side-to-side is the same, but front-to-back, it favors bending back.
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Reply #1424 - Feb 15th, 2025 at 2:08pm
 
Ah ok, I'm not sure if that is good for a sling, but do try it out. Would be interesting to hear how it performs
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