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Made some rusty balls :-)
Mar 29th, 2012 at 6:53am
 
I know it has no real bearing on what they are - I just like the name, plus it's what jaegoor calls them and they're his invention  Wink

Popped into town yesterday. picked up a small plastic funnel for £0.65 and two packets of balloons with 30 baloons in each pack for £2.
So for a grand total of £2.65 (approx $4 or 3 euros)and some sand (a bag of sand can be 'borrowed' from any golf course or building site) I've got the wherewithal to make up to 30 durable non bouncy sling missiles. As I'm using 3 ballons per ball I'll only get 20.
However that still puts them at  a grand total of 13.25 pence per ball (15 euro cents, or 20 us cents). Which is about as affordable as you can get.

Dug out the bucket of sand in the workshop, chopped the end off the funnel to make it a better size for shoving sand down. Used the top of a 50 stack cd spindle as a mixing bowl, bottle of water and a stick for mixing.

And while I ran antivirus on a laptop I made some rusty balls Smiley

One pack of the balloons had an england shield on - which looks pretty cool.

I used 3 balloons per ball. Tried the rubber glue - but it stinks and actually partially dissolves the rubber which made it a real pain. So only tried that twice lol

I didn't weigh the sand and I didn't make them as big as jaegoors.

The small white ones are about 100 gms.
The slightly larger red one is nearer 150.

You can see they are the same size as the sand filled squash ball - but approx 50% heavier (wet sand versus dry sand).
I've stuck the big pill roller produced concrete missile in there as well for a proper comparison.

Very easy and cheap to make. You could knock out 20 or 30 while watching telly of an evening - just make them over a bucket or you'll get wet sand everywhere Smiley  
Haven't slung one yet - but they do feel like great ammo     Smiley

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Re: Made some rusty balls :-)
Reply #1 - Mar 29th, 2012 at 6:57am
 
Eeeehi really nice ammo C_A!
You could eventually sell them  Wink
Seriously, let us know how they work!
Good job!
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Reply #2 - Mar 29th, 2012 at 7:03am
 
the idea wouldn't be to sell them - but everyone in as slinging club could buy a kit and then make their own ammo.

You get the best of all worlds. everyone using the same ammo, but at the weight they prefer and everyone makes their own Smiley
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Reply #3 - Mar 29th, 2012 at 7:08am
 
Indeed, a very practical idea!
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Reply #4 - Mar 29th, 2012 at 7:41am
 
Awesome ! Gotta try this as soon as I move into my new house.

One question though : you said you tried to glue the open end of the balloon then stopped... but didn't say how you managed to seal this end on the next balloons ?
Do you keep that end open and slip the sand-in-first-balloon "head down" ? Then flip it upside down again in the 3rd balloon ?
Is this sufficient to keep the sand well in place in 1st balloon ?
Or do you leave a little more length to the 1st balloon's "tail" and fold it on the side ? (this seems nice in theory)
Or do you tie a knot ? (guess it would make an ugly bump)
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Reply #5 - Mar 29th, 2012 at 8:11am
 
When I do some of them, I knot the first one. It will not show too much since you put the following one in the other way, and they usually already have some excess of matter at the top Smiley

With only 3 layers, just don't sling them at concrete or trees... Trees are treacherous, they will want to explode your ammo. At least, they do it with mine, maybe because I put rice...
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Reply #6 - Mar 29th, 2012 at 9:28am
 
Three balloons are not enough. These must be a minimum 10 balloons for a ball. I stick together the last three balloons. Thus the appearance becomes more long-lasting.
Wet sand has not proved itself. The best one one takes a little silicone spray. Not a lot of it. Thus the sand glides in the ball better.
Forces are better absorbed.
My balls exist of 15 balloons.
A balloon costs here in the wholesale 1.5 cents
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Reply #7 - Mar 29th, 2012 at 11:01am
 
Jaegoor wrote on Mar 29th, 2012 at 9:28am:
...I stick together the last three balloons...


What do you mean exactly by that ???
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Reply #8 - Mar 29th, 2012 at 11:19am
 
A balloon is very thin. Therefore, the external balloon breaks fast.
If one sticks together three balloons it holds much longer.
Unfortunately, there are no balloons them are thicker.

if one has a tear outside one simply pulls a new balloon about that.
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Reply #9 - Mar 29th, 2012 at 11:42am
 
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Or do you leave a little more length to the 1st balloon's "tail" and fold it on the side ? (this seems nice in theory)
Or do you tie a knot ? (guess it would make an ugly bump)


tried the knot - didn't like it.
So yep just leave a bit of the neck and fold it flat when you put the second baloon over it.

As far as 3 balloons not being enough - I must be using thicker balloons, as it works fine.
Bear in mind I'm using less filling than you jaegoor - so the rubber is less stretched and thus proportionally thicker.

pic of test throw below

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Reply #10 - Mar 29th, 2012 at 5:34pm
 
Many balloons press together then sand very much. One cannot press him with the hand. Only with the impact the ball goes out of shape. If he is too soft, he can already go out of shape with the shot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBl8PuVvT7c&feature=results_video&lr=1&ob=0
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Reply #11 - Mar 29th, 2012 at 7:03pm
 
yeah I did think about that. I'll see how it goes when I use one in a sling (in the above pic, the ball  was hand thrown at the wall).

They feel pretty firm though, we'll see Smiley
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Reply #12 - Apr 1st, 2013 at 4:05am
 
   I personally use 6 Balloons when I make em.  This seems (to me) to be the best balance between cost and durability.  The only complaint that I have with these is that sometimes, if I forget to throw the rustys in the proper orientation (meaning with the open end of the last balloon to the rear of the projectile), they can shed a few (and in at least one case, all) layers of balloons as they travel.  Sometimes this happens when they hit things just right too. 
   
   I've been thinking lately that I might try adding a small patch of duct tape to the opening of the last balloon to seal it, but I that may have it's own issues.  Maybe Super-Glue?
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Reply #13 - Apr 1st, 2013 at 7:45am
 
Hmmm, I know a lot of "crazy glue" dries brittle, so I wouldn't recommend it. Latex glue or liquid rubber might work or even a layer of caulking. Although caulking would give it some bounce.
I should get some and do this
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Reply #14 - Apr 1st, 2013 at 8:43am
 
Super glue will probably eat a hole in the balloon Huh
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