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Reply #45 - Mar 29th, 2012 at 2:55pm
 
jlasud wrote on Mar 29th, 2012 at 2:29pm:
The police may arrive in 10 minutes as to load a sling and the ammo to reach it's target may take 5-10 sec. The difference can mean life and death.
But i highly agree that detecting,avoiding trouble is the #1
Also your personality will get you in certain places..for some in those places violence is common..for some it's unknown,so this is how it all starts,what you draw around you. Seeing the physical manifestation of violence is not where it starts.


When seconds count, police are minutes away. Another reason to go heeled (to carry a gun). I carry my sling nearly everywhere. Flew to CA last night with two slings, lead and stones with no problem but if it comes to getting down, I'm not reaching into my sling pocket.
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Reply #46 - Mar 29th, 2012 at 5:08pm
 
Many years ago during a canoeing rally I got an occasion to use the sling for self defence. One night when we were siting around the fire, some bad guys started to lob stones, quite big stones over our heads. The stones were landing badly close to us hitting the ground, trunks and a few canoes. It wasn't funny at all. We immediately took shelter behind the tries.

After a moment I noticed that they are were using slings as they were able to toss big stones so far and high. To me it was a kind of gentle lobbing. I recalled that I had a sling in my backpack (I hadn't used this before there and no one knew about it). I grabbed my backpack, a few poor shaped stones and a big potato that were around of the fire and went a few dozen meters along the bank in order to hide myself in the dark.

When I found a good place between tries I started slinging in the direction where I heard noises they were making. I was slinging hard and straight but aiming high under the rascals' heads - not directly against them. The bad shaped stones were making scary noises and loud crackles and ricochets among the treetops. There was only three or four shots - I had no more stones. The potato was too huge for my sling so I hurled it by hand with full power directly into the place where I detected them. Just after the throw we heard something like "o... f**k!" Cheesy And it was finish of their bad action. We quickly launched some canoes in order to catch the hooligans but there was nobody on the other bank when we got there.

After the adventure I was asked asked by my fellows what I had done. My only answer was - "secret of Shaolin" Cheesy It was funny to keep them curious. Just a little story.

In this case the sling was effective because of a psychological effect. But I think the sling isn't a good tool of self defense in close attacks. Sometimes in stress even handgun can't help. Some years ago they showed a real movie where a bank robber wasn't able to hit a bank guard which was struggling on the floor just 2 meters away. The robber run out whole magazine and didn't hit the guard. I agree, the best way is to avoid direct confrontations as long as possible. Self defense is an extremity.
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In the shape, structure and position of each stone, there is recorded a small piece of history. So, slinging them, we add a bit of our history to them.
 
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Reply #47 - Mar 29th, 2012 at 6:38pm
 
Good story Yurek. Fight fire with fire I guess.  Cheesy
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Reply #48 - Mar 29th, 2012 at 7:19pm
 
You are Shaolin Yurek. Cool experience.
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Reply #49 - Mar 29th, 2012 at 9:35pm
 
One of the best self defence techniques.... smile  Smiley
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Reply #50 - Mar 30th, 2012 at 2:48am
 
That's a good one shaolin Yurek! Cheesy I think in that case i wouldn't minded to sling directly at them.If i hit them,it's god's will Grin
In such a case an H-1 or H2 projectile would be very useful.If you jusst sling one or two by them,they would crap their pants.
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Reply #51 - Mar 30th, 2012 at 4:56am
 
Phenomenal story!!! I wish I could have seen this in person.
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Reply #52 - Mar 30th, 2012 at 1:44pm
 
Thanks guys. I am glad you liked my little story Smiley It was an exciting adventure and fortunately no one wasn't injured or killed on the both sides. I believe the bad guys had got a chance to grow more reasonable. And yes, it's a great pity that H1 and H2 hadn't been invented in that time but remember it was stone age Wink

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In the shape, structure and position of each stone, there is recorded a small piece of history. So, slinging them, we add a bit of our history to them.
 
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Reply #53 - Mar 30th, 2012 at 2:49pm
 
Great story indeed !
What's H1 and H2 ?
Guessing it has nothing to do with Hummers ?  Cheesy
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Reply #54 - Mar 30th, 2012 at 4:22pm
 
It must have been a strange experience, not only to be randomly attacked like that, but by slings of all things. Most of us have never met (or very rarely meet) any other slingers, and really most of us who do are just people passing by mentioning they know how Tongue

I think you definately did the right thing, scare the crap out of them but dont hit them. Even if they where out of order and a danger to you and your friends, the damage a well thrown sling stone can do is horrific and it would really have to be a last resort to do that to any person. Well done for keeping a good head and knowing how to react.

Always cool to hear stories like these though Wink

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Reply #55 - Mar 30th, 2012 at 5:12pm
 
That was 'John's' original statagy was to just scare the crap out of the guy (which the sling has a reputation for doing, even to ancient trained soldiers) and give the cop time to get there. The head shot was just a byproduct
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I was pretty good at slinging like 10 years ago.
 
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Reply #56 - Mar 30th, 2012 at 7:52pm
 
I remember when CA was standing in the landing zone when we were distance shooting at a slinging meet a few years back.  He said it was pretty un-nerving to be there.  I can well imagine what it must have been like to have Yurek "screaming" sharp edged missles over those guys and having the missles banging off the trees.  When I am out in the woods doing such stuff, about every third (or so) rock will knock a branch off and you can hear that falling down after the initial impact.  You'd have to be pretty "smashed" to not take off running away as fast as you could with that going on...

I recommend anyone who "carries" (handgun) also arm themselves with a small can of "above 10%" concentration pepper spray.  If you present a lethal response to a non-lethal threat, in most states in the US you can be charged with "assault with a deadly weapon"... and that's even if there was ten of the thugs to just you and your sweetheart.

NL ammo for slings... there are several different densities and durometers of small rubber balls available throughout the world...  might be worth experimenting with a few...

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Reply #57 - Mar 30th, 2012 at 8:58pm
 
Just for the record, I don't consider a knife a non-lethal threat. If you pull a knife on me or if I see someone pull a knife and threaten someone else, I will respond accordingly. That includes a call to 911.
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Reply #58 - Mar 30th, 2012 at 9:05pm
 
Yup... knives are considered "lethal" by most states and even if they're not, a jury would likely agree they are.
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Reply #59 - Mar 30th, 2012 at 10:02pm
 
Most police officers are allowed to use lethal force if a suspect is brandashing a knife, and it is generally protocol to draw their firearm because to a surprising distance they could close the distance and knife the cop before he could draw his firearm in response.  So x2 to Bigkahuna's point. If I see a knife and no probable way to escape I would use any and everything at my disposal including any lethal options available.
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