Welcome, Guest. Please Login
SLINGING.ORG
 
Home Help Search Login


Pages: 1 2 3 ... 9
Send Topic Print
Sling Use (And Used) for Self Defence (Read 29157 times)
Dan
Interfector Viris Spurii
SlingingGuide Moderator
*****
Offline


Slinging Rocks!

Posts: 3974
Gender: male
Sling Use (And Used) for Self Defence
Mar 27th, 2012 at 9:36am
 
So on another thread I told the guys I'd tell the story of how my best friend saved another guy from serious injury by taking out a knife wielding belligerent with a sling.

Let's start out with some Chracter build up.  Smiley I have pretty much known my friend, whom I will refer to as John (althought that is not his real name), since I was born (from church nursery, though sunday school and, now to Youth Group) and we have been great friends for many years now. I started slinging probably around 3-4 years ago and I gave him a sling a few months after I started. Since then every time he comes over we usualy do some slinging. He is also also around 6ft and stocky and usualy wears BDU's but he's generaly pretty meek and humble (he is also a Christian, like me Smiley ).

So he carries his sling and some safety ammo with him every where he goes, including school. That morning he had made a new safty ammo by wrapping an old battery in duct tape untill it was a little smaller than a golf ball. He goes to school and before one of the classes 2 guys start getting aggressive. Guy one was reprimanding Guy 2 for being disrespectfull to one of the females in the school(Guy one kinda being like an non related older brother). So the argument got heated and they started shoving and 'John' saw what was happening and was about 10 yards away and put his hand on his sling (with the ammo already being in the pouch). And then Guy 2 pulled a Knife.
 The moment John saw the knife he pulled out his sling, stood up and slung the wad of duct tape directly at guy 2 (greek overhand). From the movement and snap of the sling guy number 2 turned just in time to catch the wad right in the temple, and was promptly knocked out. While this was happening the security guard was rushing over with his tazer but was still out of range. So he walks up to the guy on the ground, takes the knife, then picks up the saftey ammo, looks at 'John', looks back at the ammo, and gives the ammo back to John and said "We need to talk later."  
 So the security guard (whom John knows well) pulls him into his office and tells him that He appreaciated the help from the sling because he wouldn't have been able to get ther before something happeded anyway and that if anything happens legally, he'll vouch for John.
Thankfully this whole thing happened in seconds and very few people saw what had really happened and therefore there was no action taken against John.

John now tells the story quite humbly from time to time admitting that if he tried the shot agian he probably couldn't have hit the guy at all and thanks God for the way it turned out. I am immensly proud of him and greatfull to God.

The End.

Now back to discussion. I wouldn't really suggest using a sling as your main self defence tool. Instead learn a Martial Art like Krav Maga or Kenpo, or if you are Old enough, Buy a gun. But under occasional circumstances the sling can and has been used for self defence, under the hand of a mighty God.
Back to top
« Last Edit: Mar 28th, 2012 at 9:19am by Dan »  

I was pretty good at slinging like 10 years ago.
 
IP Logged
 
benkolmer
Senior Member
****
Offline


Stone re-allocation specialist.

Posts: 369
Gender: male
Re: Sling Use (And Used) for Self Defence
Reply #1 - Mar 27th, 2012 at 10:41am
 
That is an incredible story, Dan. Thanks for sharing!
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Morphy
Slinging.org Moderator
*****
Offline


Checkmate

Posts: 8096
Re: Sling Use (And Used) for Self Defence
Reply #2 - Mar 27th, 2012 at 11:21am
 
Without some type of divine intervention I guarantee I would have knocked out the wrong guy... Whatever happened to Rambo? Did he get suspended for bringing a knife to school?
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
momanoheadhunter
Descens
***
Offline


Slinging Rocks!

Posts: 116
Southeast Texas,
Gender: male
Re: Sling Use (And Used) for Self Defence
Reply #3 - Mar 27th, 2012 at 11:39am
 
Thats a cool story. And a battery wrapped in duct tape ? I bet that hurt a bunch ! Your friend deserves more credit then he gives him self. Keeping a cool head in a "situation" is tough.
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Curious Aardvark
Forum Moderation
*****
Offline


Taller than the average
Dwarf

Posts: 13965
Midlands England
Gender: male
Re: Sling Use (And Used) for Self Defence
Reply #4 - Mar 27th, 2012 at 11:55am
 
basically your friend is very lucky the guy wasn't killed.
Temple shots are the most dangerous you can get.

Had the kid been killed then it's probable that anti-sling legislation would have been passed quite quickly.

So while I'm with anyone helping someone out in need - I have to come down against slinging lethal ammo at a human being.

IF you absolutely have to sling at someone - aim for the body. At the very least it'll distract them from whatever they're doing without risking killing someone.
Headshots are always going to be extremely dodgy at the very best.

Oh yeah: Quote:
but he's generaly pretty meek and humble (he is also a Christian, like me Smiley ).

Meek and humble are neither words I'd have used to describe you dan - what on earth does being a christian have to do with it ? lol
Back to top
 

Do All things with Honour and Generosity: Regret Nothing, Envy None, Apologise Seldom and Bow your head to No One  - works for me Smiley
 
IP Logged
 
Pikåru
Interfector Viris Spurii
*****
Offline


Experience teaches only
the teachable...

Posts: 1636
Colorado USA
Gender: male
Re: Sling Use (And Used) for Self Defence
Reply #5 - Mar 27th, 2012 at 12:05pm
 
Didn't you hear CA? The meek are the ones who will inherit the earth. LOL Wink
Back to top
 

I sling. Therefore I am. Tano' Hu I Islan Guahan. http://itanohu.blogspot.com
 
IP Logged
 
fletch_man
Senior Member
****
Offline


When the Guns are Gone

Posts: 364
Gender: male
Re: Sling Use (And Used) for Self Defence
Reply #6 - Mar 27th, 2012 at 12:19pm
 
This is an excellent opportunity for people to list what they use as LTL (Less Than Lethal) ammo.  I always liked the idea.  My son in law and I used to run a second hand store in a nasty section of town and we always had a shotgun loaded with bean-bag rounds.  I sometimes fill T-Balls with sand for LTL use.  A little foam and duct tape around a rock would work as well.  Any ideas Slingers?
Back to top
 

I am not The Word&&   I am the parchment on which&&      The Word is written
 
IP Logged
 
slyserpico
Junior Member
**
Offline


Slinging Rocks!

Posts: 59
Re: Sling Use (And Used) for Self Defence
Reply #7 - Mar 27th, 2012 at 12:51pm
 
I am interested in what semi-safe less than lethal ammo people sling too, other than tennis balls. I use footbags (aka hacky-sacks), old produce, avocado pits, and I have a black walnut tree that grows ammo. I like the weighted ducktape idea and was thinking about wrapping a lead sinker in foam. I would love to find an ideal ammo for practicing in my back yard... something with mass and air-drag to visualize trajectory without going the distance (kinda like practicing golf swing with a wiffle golfball.
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Ahaw
Tiro
**
Offline


La fronde... ça en jette
!

Posts: 43
Périgord, France
Gender: male
Re: Sling Use (And Used) for Self Defence
Reply #8 - Mar 27th, 2012 at 12:54pm
 
Cool story !
+1 with Morphy (I'd have hit the wrong guy too)
+2 with Aardvark (lucky he didn't kill him ! + What's the link with being a Christian ???)

fletch_man wrote on Mar 27th, 2012 at 12:19pm:
This is an excellent opportunity for people to list what they use as LTL (Less Than Lethal) ammo.?

What about a little bouncing ball for kids ? They're dense & heavy, though kinda soft too... and if you miss on first shot, you'd have a 2nd chance on the rebound !
Grin
Back to top
 
WWW  
IP Logged
 
Morphy
Slinging.org Moderator
*****
Offline


Checkmate

Posts: 8096
Re: Sling Use (And Used) for Self Defence
Reply #9 - Mar 27th, 2012 at 1:06pm
 
I like the the idea of a big bouncy ball. Not just as a LTL but just sheer fun. Empty warehouse + sling/bouncy balls sounds like a good time to me.

I think Jaegoor's rusty balls would fit the bill. They would be very painful but not as lethal as a stone. That's the thing with LTL stuff like a bean bag round from a shotgun. Still potentially lethal, just not nearly as much as the real thing. So I think rusty balls might fit that definition.
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
jlasud
Interfector Viris Spurii
*****
Offline


Programming stones

Posts: 2358
Transilvania
Gender: male
Re: Sling Use (And Used) for Self Defence
Reply #10 - Mar 27th, 2012 at 1:36pm
 
The same idea came as i read. Probably the best LTL ammo would be the Rusty Ball.
Back to top
 

Respect existance or expect resistance!
 
IP Logged
 
benkolmer
Senior Member
****
Offline


Stone re-allocation specialist.

Posts: 369
Gender: male
Re: Sling Use (And Used) for Self Defence
Reply #11 - Mar 27th, 2012 at 2:45pm
 
What exactly is this rusty ball everyone keeps
mentioning?
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Caldou
Funditor
****
Offline


Moving the world... rock
by rock.

Posts: 779
Picardie, France
Re: Sling Use (And Used) for Self Defence
Reply #12 - Mar 27th, 2012 at 2:52pm
 
Try looking here: http://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1309040514/0
And using the search Wink
Back to top
 

Eight in one shot!
The french Slinging club
If it's still moving, keep slinging !
WWW  
IP Logged
 
Curious Aardvark
Forum Moderation
*****
Offline


Taller than the average
Dwarf

Posts: 13965
Midlands England
Gender: male
Re: Sling Use (And Used) for Self Defence
Reply #13 - Mar 27th, 2012 at 3:06pm
 
yes ! those are perfect. basically you fill a ballon with damp sand and cut the rolled over end off. Then cut the end off anbother baloon and pull that over the first.

Not sure why they are rusty balls - but they are certainly excellent sling ammunition.  Smiley

Now these are much better than a duct taped wrapped battery because they deform on impact. So that the energy of the impact is spread over a wider area. They could still easily knock you out, but they lack the hard point non-deformation of something like a wrapped battery.

What you have to bear in mind that should a battery impact on someone's temple small or sharp end on - all the energy of that missile is transmitted through that single impact point which could easily kill.
With a deforming missile like the rusty ball, you have the same energy in the missile but it's spread over a much wider impact point so is much less likely to apply lethal force.

I still wouldn't recommend slinging at people - but if you have to, then jaegoors ammo is definitely preferable to most things and would still have enough impact to make a difference in  a dangerous situation.

Back to top
 

Do All things with Honour and Generosity: Regret Nothing, Envy None, Apologise Seldom and Bow your head to No One  - works for me Smiley
 
IP Logged
 
Caldou
Funditor
****
Offline


Moving the world... rock
by rock.

Posts: 779
Picardie, France
Re: Sling Use (And Used) for Self Defence
Reply #14 - Mar 27th, 2012 at 3:09pm
 
Curious Aardvark wrote on Mar 27th, 2012 at 3:06pm:
Not sure why they are rusty balls


I guess we can only blame online translators on the name Wink
Back to top
 

Eight in one shot!
The french Slinging club
If it's still moving, keep slinging !
WWW  
IP Logged
 
Pages: 1 2 3 ... 9
Send Topic Print
(Moderators: Morphy, vetryan15, Chris, Rat Man, Curious Aardvark, Kick, joe_meadmaker)