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Reply #15 - Mar 29th, 2011 at 3:42pm
 
A thesis making the point about BJJ and its influence on modern army combatives

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Reply #16 - Mar 30th, 2011 at 2:29pm
 
Hi, GreatWhiteWolf;
 I can appreciate where books and CDs might be somewhat helpful, but I couldn't imagine learning martial arts to any degree of proficiency without an instructor.  So much of it is sparing and doing..  I'm not Bruce Lee or anything like that, but I couldn't have learned what I did (mostly Tai Kwan Do and Street Fighting, with some Hapkido and Kung Fu) without skilled instructors.  I'd say yes to CDs and books with it in mind that you'll eventually hook up with a good instructor.  Good luck.
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Reply #17 - Mar 31st, 2011 at 10:46pm
 
Thearos wrote on Mar 29th, 2011 at 4:08am:
How did you find it ? Some people feel that it's got too much insistance on ground fighting. Did you feel that way ?


I didn't mind the grounding too much. I think you can control your opponent to a much better degree if you can grab them, especially if you have an advantageous ground position. Boxing and other stand-up styles of fighting rely too much on waiting for your opponent to come in range of your attacks, where as many submissions and even kill strikes are much easier when you have a greater level of control, you know?
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Reply #18 - Mar 31st, 2011 at 10:52pm
 
I think you need a certain minimum level of skill and experience before books or dvd's become effective.  That way, if something isn't clear, you can usually figure it out.  I've picked up a few techniques from books and videos and made them work in sparring/grappling.  If you have no training and no experience, and there are no schools near by, I suppose it's better than nothing.  You must have a partner and must put in the time, not just watch/read.
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Reply #19 - Mar 31st, 2011 at 11:03pm
 
RatMan: there are instructors in Street Fighting ?
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Reply #20 - Apr 2nd, 2011 at 5:01pm
 
My first school taught traditional Tae Kwon Do side by side with a system of Street Fighting invented by the schools' owner, John Korab.  This system borrowed logic and dirty tricks from just about everything.  I liked it very much and to this day think it's quite ingenious.  It gave me a very good foundation to continue learning.  This was back in the early '70s so I couldn't tell you if it's being taught anywhere now, unfortunately.  From there I joined the army.  In M.P. school or A.I.T. the guy who slept in the bunk below me, Mickey Price,  was a 6th degree black belt in Kung Fu (Kung Sanda).  For two months I sparred with him every day.  I still have the scars.  He would get into this )(&^% cat stance and challenge me to attack him.  For two months I did this every day and for two months I didn't score one point on him.  I got a free education and he got a big human punching bag.  From there I was stationed in Seoul, Korea, where I took Hapkido with a ROK Major Song.  It was OK, but I found many of the moves flashy, and just overly elaborate. Consequently they took too much time, IMO.  Besides that I picked up a little of this or that free sparring with my M.P. buddies who were into martial arts.  Once in a while when performing my duties as an M.P. I'd get to test this or that move to see what actually worked in reality.  All in all it was a well rounded education.  Even though I'm old and falling apart now I still have a certain degree of confidence from it.  Sorry for totally digressing.  Sometimes you just start typing....
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Reply #21 - Apr 2nd, 2011 at 7:05pm
 
Stormfront ?-- that's a white supremacist group, no ? Not the most savory place to get info about John Korab.

But v. interesting to read about your experiences as a MP
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Reply #22 - Apr 3rd, 2011 at 9:30pm
 
Yikes!  Sorry, I should have checked it out better.  I just saw my old instructor there and posted it.  I think that anyone who's been here any length of time at all knows that I'm not a racist.
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Reply #23 - Apr 4th, 2011 at 7:12am
 
Sorry for raising this. Somehow (remembering some of the more humane posts by you as moderator) I didn't think you went for the shaved head.
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Reply #24 - Apr 5th, 2011 at 12:04pm
 
Rat Man wrote on Apr 2nd, 2011 at 5:01pm:
My first school taught traditional Tae Kwon Do side by side with a system of Street Fighting invented by the schools' owner, John Korab.  This system borrowed logic and dirty tricks from just about everything.  I liked it very much and to this day think it's quite ingenious.  It gave me a very good foundation to continue learning.  This was back in the early '70s so I couldn't tell you if it's being taught anywhere now, unfortunately.  From there I joined the army.  In M.P. school or A.I.T. the guy who slept in the bunk below me, Mickey Price,  was a 6th degree black belt in Kung Fu (Kung Sanda).  For two months I sparred with him every day.  I still have the scars.  He would get into this )(&^% cat stance and challenge me to attack him.  For two months I did this every day and for two months I didn't score one point on him.  I got a free education and he got a big human punching bag.  From there I was stationed in Seoul, Korea, where I took Hapkido with a ROK Major Song.  It was OK, but I found many of the moves flashy, and just overly elaborate. Consequently they took too much time, IMO.  Besides that I picked up a little of this or that free sparring with my M.P. buddies who were into martial arts.  Once in a while when performing my duties as an M.P. I'd get to test this or that move to see what actually worked in reality.  All in all it was a well rounded education.  Even though I'm old and falling apart now I still have a certain degree of confidence from it.  Sorry for totally digressing.  Sometimes you just start typing....


That's a pretty impressive resume lol. How'd you like Korea? I had a few buddies from AIT and several instructors who were stationed over there
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Reply #25 - Apr 7th, 2011 at 12:22pm
 
I was stationed in Korea for 13 months and I wouldn't trade that experience for anything.  It was great duty and I should have (and could have if I wasn't so stupid) spent my entire enlistment there.  How much one enjoys their tour in Korea depends on where they're stationed.  I was an MP in Seoul, which was as good as it got.  Some people were stationed in some lonely little outpost in the middle of nowhere and they'll probably tell you that Korea sucked.
   We had houseboys to do all of our menial chores like starching our fatigues, shining our boots, maintaining our lockers and rooms in the barracks.. all for ten dollars a month.  The U.S. dollar was worth five times as much in Korea at the time so every G.I. was quite well to do.  It was a great life and the duty as an MP Traffic Accident Investigator was very challenging and exciting.  The women were unbelievable.  To this day I'm very fond of Koreans as a people.  They're very high strung, emotional, hard working and industrious, and you'll find no more loyal a friend.  
  So why didn't I do my entire enlistment there?  Stupid little Rat Man got homesick.  So instead of doing my entire three years in this cake situation I went back Stateside to a stinking hell hole called Ft. Campbell.  Stupid.  
  To sum it all up, if you can get stationed in the right place in South Korea it could be the best duty possible and the time of your life.
    I failed to mention that this was in the mid '70s.  I don't know if things have changed since then.
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