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looks like a very deadly close 1/4s knife
Jan 31st, 2011 at 10:50pm
 
I think its called a "smatchet" reminds me of a Roman Pugio(dagger) almost,  looks unforgiving for an unfortunate enemy in close quarters with a skilled fighter...
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Reply #1 - Feb 1st, 2011 at 7:53am
 
Not to nitpick, but wouldn´t any blade of that size be pretty "unforgiving", that sucker is almost a foot long, not counting the handle... Shocked
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Reply #2 - Feb 1st, 2011 at 8:29am
 
The Smatchet is a failed invention. It was meant to be a combination survival knife and machete, but it just wasn't big enough to chop tree the way the makers intended. It was still a devastating fighting knife, though.
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Reply #3 - Feb 1st, 2011 at 12:32pm
 
Nice one! And here's mine:

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I've forged it this summer, with raw iron; it has somehow become steel and now has a very strong cutting edge.

Overall length is 25 centimeters (9.85 inches), of which the handle is 10 (3.94 inches).
It has been tested on several trees and has proved of being able to chop a 7 centimeters (2.76 inches) diameter tree in about 5 minutes.

The only thing is, that it has a somehow small tang, and hafting it has been a bit difficult; howewer, this handle seems to be solid enough, for now.  Smiley

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Reply #4 - Feb 1st, 2011 at 2:21pm
 
The story was it was designed by the OSS during WWII and issued to agents in the Pacific as a combo fighting knife/machete/ shovel.  The originals are extremly valuable.  Bill
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Reply #5 - Feb 1st, 2011 at 2:33pm
 
Bill Skinner wrote on Feb 1st, 2011 at 2:21pm:
The story was it was designed by the OSS during WWII and issued to agents in the Pacific as a combo fighting knife/machete/ shovel.  The originals are extremly valuable.  Bill

Doesn't appear to be too different from the Army Model 1910 or 1914 bolo, other than being double-edged full length. http://springfieldedge.com/bolo_kinfe_m-1910.html
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Reply #6 - Feb 1st, 2011 at 5:00pm
 
the knife isnt mine,  it looks to be a deadly fighting weapon,  wouldnt use it for bushcraft though,  it has 2 edges
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Reply #7 - Feb 1st, 2011 at 8:24pm
 
Defintiely a great figter but not much else, a more readily available, durable, double edged fighting knife is the Cold steel Tai Pan very strong tip as double edged knives go.
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Reply #8 - Feb 1st, 2011 at 8:38pm
 
cold steel has a similar knife called the shanghai shadow http://www.knifecenter.com/kc_new/store_detail.html?s=CS80PSS
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Reply #9 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 9:28pm
 
It's suppost to be based on an early Welsh short sword that was copied and given to the machine gunners of the Royal Welsh Fusiliers during WW1.
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Reply #10 - Feb 5th, 2011 at 2:49am
 
xxkid123 wrote on Feb 1st, 2011 at 8:38pm:
cold steel has a similar knife called the shanghai shadow http://www.knifecenter.com/kc_new/store_detail.html?s=CS80PSS


Almost looks like a kunai
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Reply #11 - Feb 7th, 2011 at 9:36pm
 
The smatchet was designed by William E. Fairbairn, half of the duo that created the Fairbairn-Sykes fighting knife and helped with the Applegate-Fairbairn knife.  When it comes to close combat, this guy knew what he was doing.
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Reply #12 - Feb 8th, 2011 at 10:37am
 
When it comes to fighting knives, there are essentially three designs, and this has been true through history.  You have thrusting knives.. Stilletos, daggers, etc.
You have slashing knives like the Arabic Jambiya and the Ghurka Kukri.
And you have knives that try to do both, like the Bowie-type (and many others).

All these types were adapted according to the type of fighting favored by the cultures that developed them.  If you were going to be fighting opponents who were armored, then cutting/slashing blades would not be effective.  You needed to stab, and you needed a sturdy point to get through the armor or chain mail.
Against unarmored opponents (as in civilian combat) a slashing knife could perform well.

The dual-purpose designs are more modern, as a style of combat based on cut-and-thrust was developed (likely based on sword techniques).

The type of knife a soldier would want is considerably different from what a civilian might carry.  The soldier is looking for extreme sturdiness and the ability to penetrate a lot of equipment and heavy clothing and even body armor... He needs a pretty big, heavy blade.
The civilian must (usually) carry concealed and is not worried about heavily-armored foes... However he is often worried about legality.

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Reply #13 - Feb 8th, 2011 at 11:37am
 
Totally true, Bikewer.  Also a soldier is very likely to use his knife for a multitude of tasks other than fighting. I have a very old (1906) U.S. Army bayonette that my dad gave me.  I have no idea where he got it.  I don't think that design has ever been improved.. to me it's the perfect blade for a soldier.  I don't have a picture of it, but it's the same as the one below.  Mine is in almost perfect condition with the serial # very clear.  It's a very large, mean, nasty blade.
  It's model 1905, BTW.
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Reply #14 - Feb 8th, 2011 at 4:12pm
 
I have a book from a museum collection of knives and bayonets, and they have a funny story... At one point, the "Little Emperor" Napoleon had his personal guard issued with a particularly long and impressive-looking "sword" bayonet.
This proved troublesome...  At a state dinner, the guard all came to attention and "presented arms", resulting in the extra-long bayonets puncturing the ceiling of the banquet hall....
They were issued more practical items shortly thereafter.
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