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Reply #15 - Sep 29th, 2010 at 1:27pm
 
Interesting. So are ones with all the artwork usually the cheaper versions made to sell to tourists and that sort of thing? I originally thought I had something cheaper because it lacked all of that for the most part. Shows how much I know.
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Reply #16 - Sep 29th, 2010 at 1:37pm
 
most tourist goods are highly decorated, made of lighter softer woods and designed to be hung on a wall.

What you appear to have is a serious working boomerang that looks like it's seen service.
It would have sufficient decoration to aid in it's use, but nowhere near as much as a purely decorative piece would have.  

IF you look at this site. You can see the similiarity to your own.
http://www.flight-toys.com/throwsticks.html

here's some more
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The info on this site is worth a read.
http://www.objectlessons.org.uk/default.asp?Document=200.0070.0020&Image=AUS881X...

Your boomer looks as authentic as anything on any of the sites I've seen Smiley
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Re: What kind of boomerang is this?
Reply #17 - Sep 29th, 2010 at 1:46pm
 
the ones made for tourists in the present day do tend to be overly decorated, but there was a time during and shortly after WWII when a large number of these things were sold to British and American soldiers stationed in Australia. many of these were crafted by aboriginal people in much the same way their grandfathers did, albeit with modern tools, so in that sense it could be somewhat original. you said that you got it at an estate sale? i wouldn't be surprised if the owner of that estate was a G.I. who'd been stationed down under during that time.
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Reply #18 - Sep 29th, 2010 at 3:22pm
 
  I also think it does look a little "antiqued".  I don't think it was made just a year or two ago.
  That's an awesome collection of throwing sticks you have there ardvark!  I have some pieces of white and yellow birch drying out right now I will be carving into some.
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Reply #19 - Sep 30th, 2010 at 2:14pm
 
lol they're not mine - just snagged the pic from wikipedia (or one of the other sites I looked at)
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Reply #20 - Oct 17th, 2010 at 9:12am
 
Looks reasonably genuine from the toolmarks, and the colour, grain and form is consistent with centralian work.

Those supersharp ridges among the finish are, as paleo points out, inconsistent with stone tools. However, a lot of central desert mobs finish with incisor teeth (sometimes still mounted in a jawbone, for grip) and it leaves those regular, almost hypnotic patterns. Some artists use modern steel tools to achieve the same results... think "lino-cutting" tools Wink

Coverage of artwork does not mean a whole lot... some tourist pieces here are entirely "plain" and others are heavily ornamented... but more typically in gloss acrylic or enamel paints, rarely ochre as some of your pictures seem to indicate. Of course, 45 year old acrylic looks a lot like ochre in a photo. Try rubbing the artwork on a small area, and rubbing your finger on your teeth... if it scratches, it's stone mineral.

Not all Aboriginal Australian boomerangs/throwing sticks are made from the classic super dense hardwoods... plenty of our so called "soft timbers" are more than heavy enought to crack skulls or break ribs of small hopping game.

Very early "tourist" or "anthro" trade would have been ornamented in ochres rather than paints... but simply using ochre does not mean it is is a "real" item (ie, a used one...) as at one time it would have been more available to some tribes than western manufactured pigments. One of the most significant pieces of totemic cave art I have seen is done in (literally) what was once known as "blue chinese laundry chalk"... we use what we can find, here.

A good example of how "the normal" condradicts the "norm" is that everyone OS knows aussie indig art is about "dot painting". Thing is, almost all classic "dot art" is essentially an indigenous "Po Mo" movement... artists here at one time were basically told by elders to not use spirit art etc for sale or tourist market... so some "fragmented" them in dot form ( which is to say, before the marketable era NO central mob ever used dot art Wink ) so they could still reproduce their cultural symbols without infringing "taboo" law Wink

Think... a very low res thumb versus the original, glorious HD Cheesy

Where was the "Estate sale" situated? A lot of semi-marketable goods were sent back to Europe and the US a LONG time prior to the very brief period where Australia was a US airbase Wink Especially back along german and scottish family trees.

That "antiquing" look you mention is here called "silicon glazing"... basically stone or timber from around here, after being exposed to x amount of weathering and use shows up that real deep hard glassy gloss... it's the silica coming thru... joys of an aged continent.



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Reply #21 - Oct 17th, 2010 at 9:58am
 
the proportions (length v bulk) make me wonder if it's one half of a pair of clapping sticks, throwing stick like items mainly made for the resonance of their timber and designed to be used as precussion to traditional dance. I can just see someone buying or being given a pair and some freckled, mutant kiddlywink throwing ONE of them over the back fence just to see how it goes Wink

It's very light for it's length, by looks... could be for birding? Or just dancing? a lot of dance weapons look "real" but are more about form and design than actual efficiency.

those parallel and occasionally valley-ing ridges are a distinctly central aus thing though... Maralinga was a helluva party... or at least, it had the best fireworks Cheesy but the art on that looks a little off... maybe traditional materials and just a purely touristy motif? hard to say... some mobs have symbols that are very important one year, and then noone uses them again for another 50 years...

as a general rule, the further you go inland the heavier, flatter, curvier and more ornate the sticks get. On the coast you can get away throwing one or two foot lengths of nearly anything somewhat dense at small, soft game but out west they need the heavy guns Wink longer ranges, less cover, more wiley game.
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Reply #22 - Oct 19th, 2010 at 12:30pm
 
  Well, I don't know whether they did this in Australia, but I know that many tribes would ornament their weapons with the blood of the first kill they made with it.  You could look it over and see if it had any smears or drops of blood on it, that might be hard to see but a darker smear or pattern of drops may be worth further investigation.  This would indicate it had been used.  Just a thought, probably isn't too brilliant though.
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Reply #23 - Oct 20th, 2010 at 10:00am
 
Nah, this is Australia. We clean that mess off before it makes people sick Wink Who wants scabs in their lunch?

Many aussie mobs had a similar (in significance) "contract" as judeo-christians do with god, though instead of god we put "nature" (for want of a more readily translated term). Hunters gave all the blood they ever had to give upon their own initiation (which incidentally often featured genital circumcision and removal of teeth) or it was seen that burying the stomachs of game taken which would lead to growing more fruit and nut trees, etc, was payment enough.

In other tribal groups, all the blood a hunter or warrior had to spill was accounted for in the blood his mother spilt birthing him (given that totetmically, he was going to be a hunter before he was even born...) and so those groups were oddly lax in terms of post-mortem hunting rituals seen in other peoples around the world. James Frazer has a lot to answer for, hah.

Not much into blood here... it's just the stuff that comes out of food Wink Natural blood yeah, but not many blackfellas are into playing with the stuff. More of a pacific thing, that.

But as you mentioned Luke a lot of indigenous cultures DID blood weapons... even among fairly sophisticated people like Indonesians  from some of the smaller islands, it still kind of persists. Kris culture, etc.

It looks like fairly legit Centralian work, that one. I'd doubt it being "used" a lot of bush weapons here are seen as being kinda spent once they have more than 4 or 5 dings or knocks or dents on the working face. Any excuse to make another Wink boys will be boys...

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