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Jabames
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Spear Hunting
Aug 7th, 2010 at 8:01pm
 
Has any1 hunted with a spear before?  One of these days I'd like to hunt moose or even black bear; actually someone in my area actually killed either a black bear or a brown bear with a spear.
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Re: Spear Hunting
Reply #1 - Aug 7th, 2010 at 8:18pm
 
I don't have the guts to go after a brown bear with a spear. I think you'd have to be nuts to do that actually. But that's just me. Those things freak me out.  Grin Grin
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Reply #2 - Aug 7th, 2010 at 8:24pm
 
Personally I think it's in our instincts to hunt in the old ways since we've been hunting that way for a looooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnngggg time, just like slinging It just might be ingrained in us possibly...
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Reply #3 - Aug 7th, 2010 at 8:35pm
 
This might be graphic but all our ancestors hunted in such ways;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkN6C1ur1t8&feature=related
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Reply #4 - Aug 7th, 2010 at 9:26pm
 
Oh I have no doubt a spear could kill big game, I would just never be able to do it myself. lol  Grin Brown bears are just big nasty creatures capable of ripping you in half for fun. I tend to avoid such animals.  Wink
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Reply #5 - Aug 7th, 2010 at 9:33pm
 
Yeah n they could throw u around like a ragdoll Smiley
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Reply #6 - Aug 7th, 2010 at 10:26pm
 
  Yeah, but what you are talking about is highly dangerous as well.  Spear hunting was often done in packs, so you could surround the game and stab it, then hold the game down with the spear in it.  Spear hunting moose was done in the winter when the snow was deep.  The Indians would wear snowshoes and the moose would knot be able to move fast enough through the snow to escape, so they could catch up to it and drive the long spears into it and hold it down with them until it died.  The thing with a spear is it has a short range and you have to hit the target dead on or you will have to have another spear!  That's why having 5 of you is how you would do it.  But hunting bear would be very dangerous.  Dogs were also used to tree and harry the game so that it would stand still and not attack the hunter.  Inuit used dogs to harry the polar bear so that they could spear it, and dogs can also be used to tree bears where they could be speared without too much difficulty. 
  The other way to hunt with a spear if you are nuts is have the animal charge you, then hold the spear in front of you and allow the animal to skewer itself, but then you must hold onto the spear and keep the animal away from you until it dies.  I forget his name now but there was a south american man who hunted big cat's that way his whole life, he would just get them to leap at him and skewer them on a spear...
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Reply #7 - Aug 7th, 2010 at 10:41pm
 
Right.   In medieval times, such hunting (for game like wild boar) was considered training for war as well as sport (and to provide meat...).
Normally, you'd hunt from horseback, with a pack of hounds.    The modern English fox-hunt is a muchly-refined and formalized version of this.

Essentially, the hounds would bring the game "to bay" and then attack it.  Often, the hounds would be trained to try to hold the beast immobile while it was killed by spear or sword.
However, sometimes a boar would break free and charge.   The boar-spear was a specialized item with a hefty cross-brace behind the head; this to keep the boar from literally forcing himself down the spear and attacking the holder.   
This was a dangerous undertaking for all concerned, as you might imagine.
Quite a lot of people were involved in such a hunt.
I can't imagine trying to kill bear in this manner; even black bears are vastly strong and quick.
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Reply #8 - Aug 7th, 2010 at 11:40pm
 
Dude I am Eskimo (Yup'ik), I'd go hunt moose and bear with a few spears If I had some, I'm thinking of buying 3 cold steel samburu throwing spears, and 1 boar spear or maybe even a n assegai spear.  Some hunters even killed bears and caribou by letting them charge, then dodge until the animal got tired and kill them with knives, they'd drop their rifles and kill them with just knives Smiley; as recently as maybe 50 years ago more or less, but nowadays we use rifles instead of bows and spears and other weapons.
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Reply #9 - Aug 7th, 2010 at 11:58pm
 
This is how you hunt bears with spears as stated by my grandfather in the book called The Way We Genuinely Live: Masterworks of Yup'ik Science and Survival:  "When they hunted for black or brown bear, they would use spears measuring one yagneq (arm span, about the height of the hunter), just the right size for himself.  (The spear) has to be higher than him when he kneels.  When they see (bears),  it doesn't take long for the brown bears to get infuriated, but the black ones take a while to get angry.  If one gets a bear infuriated,  he cannot have his spear visible.  The bear won't approach the man if it sees the spear.  It has to be hidden.  When it approaches and reaches you, you have to kneel down, take it from behind and brace it on the ground, and spear it as it opens its mouth.  (Bears) always bend down, and then they poke themselves."
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Reply #10 - Aug 8th, 2010 at 5:36pm
 
Jabames wrote on Aug 7th, 2010 at 11:58pm:
This is how you hunt bears with spears as stated by my grandfather in the book called The Way We Genuinely Live: Masterworks of Yup'ik Science and Survival:  "When they hunted for black or brown bear, they would use spears measuring one yagneq (arm span, about the height of the hunter), just the right size for himself.  (The spear) has to be higher than him when he kneels.  When they see (bears),  it doesn't take long for the brown bears to get infuriated, but the black ones take a while to get angry.  If one gets a bear infuriated,  he cannot have his spear visible.  The bear won't approach the man if it sees the spear.  It has to be hidden.  When it approaches and reaches you, you have to kneel down, take it from behind and brace it on the ground, and spear it as it opens its mouth.  (Bears) always bend down, and then they poke themselves."


Thats sounds pretty hard core if I ever were to go spear hunting I would probably have it so the animal did not know where I was (tree stand or ghillie suit ). It sounds like you are pretty intent on going spear hunting so my suggestion would be be safe, start on small game and work your way up, take a gun just in case , take a partner also with a gun .
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Reply #11 - Aug 8th, 2010 at 6:33pm
 
I'm thinking of trying on a tree stand first
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Reply #12 - Aug 8th, 2010 at 6:54pm
 
As said, take a partner or two with a gun. Yes some hunters passed may very well have killed bears with knives, but by no means does it mean everyone can. Work your way up before you even reach a bear would be my advice, the boar hunting mentioned in a previous post was incredibly dangerous. Many ancient kings have been killed by boars in what was thought controlled, safe circumstances for hunting, and that was only a boar, a bear is a whole new step.
Really be careful if you want to do that mate, it would be cool to be able to do all of that, but remember we are not what we used to be.

Best of luck mate,

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Reply #13 - Aug 8th, 2010 at 9:25pm
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oibNvAbtpc

here is a vid of spear hunting it is dangerous but not impossible.

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Reply #14 - Aug 9th, 2010 at 3:36pm
 
I remember reading a post on this forum, of a guy planning a boar hunt with spears, together with some friends and family. I consider this a ridiculously dangerous method to hunt.
Come to think of it I believe  we didn´t hear from him after that posting... Shocked
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