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Reply #15 - Jul 31st, 2010 at 5:24am
 
Sling is a forgotten exotic weapon generally not considered as true deadly weapon, but rather as clumsy toy. People even don't recognize difference between slings and slingshots especially because in many languages the same word is used for both weapons.
However, people usually can't supress their excitment and surprise when seeing real sling in action for the first time.
There are lot of preconditioned assumptions about slings that only our slinging skill can change.
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Reply #16 - Jul 31st, 2010 at 5:46am
 
does SLINGING.ORG have a youtube channel ?
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Reply #17 - Jul 31st, 2010 at 5:48am
 
I tag all my videos with 'slinging.org' and many other people do too.
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Reply #18 - Jul 31st, 2010 at 12:23pm
 
me2 wrote on Jul 30th, 2010 at 10:42pm:
I don't see what was wrong with the comment.  Were slings not used to drive game to other areas for ambush?  They can certainly kill small game.  I doubt that a sling is going to kill anything bigger than a deer outright.  

After seeing some sword and knife making vids on the science channel, I'd say take anything you see with a grain of salt.  


me2, with all due respect, I can't tell if you're pulling my leg or if you're serious.  I know of no example of slings being used to drive game under a cliff so that a huge rock can be dropped on it or of them being used to drive game into hunting buddies with spears for poking.  A rock half the size of your fist traveling at 100+ mph is certainly more than a deterrent.  Also deer and small game are considered two different things subject to different hunting laws.  Small game is rabbits, squirrels, quail, etc..  Deer are considered large game and a sling can certainly kill a deer.
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Reply #19 - Jul 31st, 2010 at 2:40pm
 
Thats what I mean.  I'm sure a sling can kill a deer, but what about elk, moose, bison, buffalo, bear, boar, etc.  Deer are certainly not small game, but I have a hard time believing the other animals above could be cleanly killed with a sling.  Using any method to drive animals under a cliff sounds suspect to me.  Driving animals over a cliff is more believable.  And, with all due respect returned, driving some of the larger animals above to areas where ambush is set seems a perfectly reasonable way to use a sling, given shepherds use of them to keep the flock together and under control.  I know of no instances where slings were used to kill turkeys, but that certainly doesn't mean it didn't happen.
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Reply #20 - Jul 31st, 2010 at 8:05pm
 
ishi wrote on Jul 31st, 2010 at 5:46am:
does SLINGING.ORG have a youtube channel ?


No it does not, but many channels with slinging videos are listed on the FAQ thread in General Discussion.
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Reply #21 - Jul 31st, 2010 at 8:23pm
 
Though we're not officially affiliated with youtube I don't think it's a reach to say that it's a big part of what we do here.
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Reply #22 - Aug 1st, 2010 at 1:31am
 
It seems like every video has some idiot posting insults to the videos no matter what your watching. If you don't like what your watching then why are you watching it.
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Reply #23 - Aug 1st, 2010 at 3:17pm
 
Yep, it seems like there are people who spend all day spreading negativity on youtube. One shouldn't take it personally.
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Reply #24 - Aug 1st, 2010 at 6:13pm
 
Fundibularius wrote on Aug 1st, 2010 at 3:17pm:
Yep, it seems like there are people who spend all day spreading negativity on youtube. One shouldn't take it personally.


Right.  I watched this guy the other day.  He was covering the basics, as if he were teaching beginners.  I thought that he did an OK job, but he got torn to shreds in the comments.  Idunno.  What do you guys think?  Was he all that bad?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSreXRMhrO4&NR=1&feature=fvwp
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Reply #25 - Aug 2nd, 2010 at 1:02am
 
There is no excuse for the mindless and insulting comments in some of the replies that have been posted on this clip. Quite a few are merely dumb personal comments about his appearacne etc. and have absolutely no relevance to the content. If anything like them were to appear on this site I and any of the other moderators would instantly delete them and repeat offenders would be banned.

However I don't think that it is necessary to give unthinking approval to every slinger (or whatever the subject matter) merely because we like the fact that he is participating in our sport. Objective criticism can be given if done reasonably and politely. As such, I have also seen this clip several times and am quite surprised by the number of times it has been viewed as both the slinging and the equipment are really quite basic. Bit of a pity in a way as for many it would have been their only exposure to slinging and their impressions formed from a somewhat limited demonstration.

My impressions of the clip are as follows. The sling is too short to give much power with the particular underarm style being demonstrated, the construction really quite rudimentary and not suited to holding a marble which is the ammunition being used. Spherical ammunition rolls around in a flatish pouch and can very easily come out the side prematurely with a rogue shot. Also any marble is really too light to sling effectively. He himself recommends, "an ounce or two", much heavier than a marble.

As for the slinging itself, he needs to rock the sling back and forth to get it started and then has a "crank-handling" style, rotating from the elbow instead of the wrist. This is probably a subconcious attempt to compensate for the overly short sling. Nevertheless it seriously hampers his speed. And when he does release he shaves even more speed off the throw by pulling his shot with his elbow well back, instead of an enlarged movement and a definite follow through.

In summary, he needs a longer sling and more secure ammunition, once the sling's rotation is commenced with a single movement, he should keep his right elbow tucked in close to his hip, forearm out to the side and rotate from the wrist with very little forearm movement. For the final thrust, he should step forward with his left foot and make an enlarged sweeping rotation with his right arm as he releases. By far the majority of the sling's ultimate speed comes from this final thrust and not the preliminary rotations.

As he himself says, excessive preliminary rotations are not required. Doing more does not add at all to the final release speed. However I think one or two allow the slinger to get a better feel for the shot and I don't agree that it's best to release on the initial time around. But whatever number of rotations you decide on it is important to stick to it to give consistency to your slinging. Consistency is absolutely essential to achieve any sort of accuracy.

There are many far better examples of slinging on YouTube, (and many of much worse as well) but most are merely demonstrations not tutorials. I hope that any potential slingers will seek out the good ones to learn from.
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Reply #26 - Aug 2nd, 2010 at 1:22am
 
Really couldn't agree with you more Aussie...

Although there is nothing wrong with a healthy debate most of these people making these comments seem to me to be really mean-spirited individuals. I have to wonder if the world has become so ridiculous or if the internet brings this out in people that would otherwise just think it and stay quiet.
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Reply #27 - Aug 2nd, 2010 at 1:28am
 
Morphy wrote on Aug 2nd, 2010 at 1:22am:
Really couldn't agree with you more Aussie...

Although there is nothing wrong with a healthy debate most of these people making these comments seem to me to be really mean-spirited individuals. I have to wonder if the world has become so ridiculous or if the internet brings this out in people that would otherwise just think it and stay quiet.


Thanks for your positive comment.

What the internet provides is anonimity. I doubt if many of the negative comments would be made if those making them had to do so directly. Just cowardice really.
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Reply #28 - Aug 2nd, 2010 at 6:39am
 
xxkid123 wrote on Jul 27th, 2010 at 5:51pm:
that's why a lot of people remove the comments function, so that no one can post crap. another youtube video maker Nutnfancy gets some bad rep because he removes anything that is rude or insulting, but it's better than just preventing all comments.


hell no - no comments is the only way to go.
No comments, no reply videos, don't let them use the vids on telly - and probably a couple of other things I switch off.

I think I've only recently started to leave the ranking on.

Okay it's not in the spirit of the weird amorphous uber-organism that mobile phones and social networking is creating. But who cares Smiley
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Reply #29 - Aug 2nd, 2010 at 11:16am
 
Aussie wrote on Aug 2nd, 2010 at 1:28am:
Morphy wrote on Aug 2nd, 2010 at 1:22am:
Really couldn't agree with you more Aussie...

Although there is nothing wrong with a healthy debate most of these people making these comments seem to me to be really mean-spirited individuals. I have to wonder if the world has become so ridiculous or if the internet brings this out in people that would otherwise just think it and stay quiet.


Thanks for your positive comment.

What the internet provides is anonimity. I doubt if many of the negative comments would be made if those making them had to do so directly. Just cowardice really.


I have said the exact same thing many times, Aussie, and not just relating to slinging vids.  Many people will post very ignorant, racist comments on news articles.  I know that these same "people?" would never make the same comments at work, home, church, school, or whatever.  They know full well that they'd be ostracized so they make their idiotic, cowardly comments anonymously.
  I know that the video I commented on above isn't the best on youtube.  But it's certainly not the worst and I can see where it would have some value to a raw beginner.  My question is does it deserve to be torn to shreds as it was?
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