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Mammoth atl-atl spur
Apr 17th, 2010 at 12:01pm
 
My family went up to the Feild Museum in Chicago over spring break and saw their new Mammoth exibit.  There was lots of fun stuff, incluging the mummy of the baby mammoth (AMAZING), and lots of mammoth related artifacts... one that I thought you guys would really enjoy was the mammoth atl-atl spur.  It is a replica, but it is a very cool replica, so I figured I'd post it in case anyone hasn't seen it already.  
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Reply #1 - Apr 17th, 2010 at 12:08pm
 
And here's the info that went with it...
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Reply #2 - Apr 17th, 2010 at 12:11pm
 
Now that  was cool. 
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Reply #3 - Apr 17th, 2010 at 2:08pm
 
that has always been one of my favorites! there are several exquisite examples of intricately carved spurs from Europe, but unfortunately very few whole atlatls. thanks for posting! Cheesy
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Reply #4 - Apr 30th, 2010 at 11:18pm
 
Way cool spur! I've been looking for ideas for my next atlatl. To be honest, just carving a hook in there is getting pretty boring.
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Reply #5 - May 3rd, 2010 at 9:46am
 
There are some really beautiful spear-thrower (for European finds, this term or propulseur is preferred to atlatl which is normally used for the North American weapon) parts from the paleolithic.

This one is a bit weird and gave some headache to the scientists. It is interpreted as an ibex or roe giving birth or, more probably, defecating. The spur is seen by some as the tail of one of two birds sitting (feeding?) on the animal's excrement.

Juvenile boredom? A naturalistic depiction? Something ritual??? A paleolithic joke?

Undecided
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Reply #6 - May 3rd, 2010 at 3:55pm
 
Fundibularius wrote on May 3rd, 2010 at 9:46am:
There are some really beautiful spear-thrower (for European finds, this term or propulseur is preferred to atlatl which is normally used for the North American weapon) parts from the paleolithic.

This one is a bit weird and gave some headache to the scientists. It is interpreted as an ibex or roe giving birth or, more probably, defecating. The spur is seen by some as the tail of one of two birds sitting (feeding?) on the animal's excrement.

Juvenile boredom? A naturalistic depiction? Something ritual??? A paleolithic joke?

Undecided



it looks more like a doe looking behind him/her, while sitting on a branch. i'd think it would be a mor naturalistic description though.
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Reply #7 - May 29th, 2010 at 8:48am
 
Fundibularius wrote on May 3rd, 2010 at 9:46am:
There are some really beautiful spear-thrower (for European finds, this term or propulseur is preferred to atlatl which is normally used for the North American weapon) parts from the paleolithic. Undecided


Hmmmm......

Think I'll stick with the 'atlatl.' I'd rather try to wrap my tongue around Nahuatl pronunciation any day over French spelling. Wink
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Reply #8 - May 29th, 2010 at 11:51am
 
Fundibularius wrote on May 3rd, 2010 at 9:46am:
There are some really beautiful spear-thrower (for European finds, this term or propulseur is preferred to atlatl which is normally used for the North American weapon) parts from the paleolithic.

This one is a bit weird and gave some headache to the scientists. It is interpreted as an ibex or roe giving birth or, more probably, defecating. The spur is seen by some as the tail of one of two birds sitting (feeding?) on the animal's excrement.

Juvenile boredom? A naturalistic depiction? Something ritual??? A paleolithic joke?

Undecided

Beautiful piece, dont give much for the defecating/giving birth idea´s. The carving is so realistic, that I think if the artist wanted to depict that, it would have been unmistakable. I think the part behind the doe´s behind is simply there because he needed the spur.
Anything known about where it was found and from what period it was?
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Reply #9 - Jun 8th, 2010 at 4:00pm
 
Kjev wrote on May 29th, 2010 at 8:48am:
Hmmmm......

Think I'll stick with the 'atlatl.' I'd rather try to wrap my tongue around Nahuatl pronunciation any day over French spelling. Wink



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Reply #10 - Jun 8th, 2010 at 4:09pm
 
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Anything known about where it was found and from what period it was?



It's Azilien, from Mas d'Azil cave itself, around 14.000-11.000 years ago.

http://www.tourisme-arize-leze.com/Le-Faon-aux-oiseaux.html
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