We had the question of the general status of slingers in antiquity some time ago already, I guess.

Accidentally, today I found some passages by Valerius Maximus, a Roman writer in the first quarter of the first century AD which might shed some light on how slingers were looked upon in his time and in the centuries before. He tells two anecdotes from Roman history with a similar content.

The first one is about a cavalry unit which, during a campaign in Sicily, surrendered to the enemy. After their return to Roman troops, the proud cavalrymen have to give up their horses (and their status) in shame and are moved to slingers’ units (…consul… turmas[…] equitum […] ademptis equis in funditorum alas transcripsit. Val. Max. II, 7, 9)

The second anecdote is from the Pyrrhic war. King Pyrrhus set a great number of Roman POW free and let them return to Rome. The senate decides that those of them who had served in the cavalry are to be degraded to infantry, and those who had been infantrists are to join the slingers (Val. Max. II, 7, 15).

In both cases, being degrading to slingers is regarded as a punishment almost worse than death.

That happened a lot. Captured soldiers who decided to join with the Romans were immediately assigned to slingers. All armor and equipment had to be surrendered.

one can become a good barrage slinger easily in a week of solid training.
Slingers were not generally snipers.

All that is required is to get the missile a decent distance in front of you

Aussie wrote on Feb 1^st, 2010 at 3:49pm:


For chucking into an oncoming army of thousands, a week is enough.  To hit one man at 50 yards, start as a boy. I have just taken my first steps into archery and I was immediately far more accurate with a bow than I am with a sling.

I can only guess that a sling formation made up from not-really-volunteer good-enough-slingers could easily be unfortunate  enough to deliver a good amount of "friendly fire".   But, there are dangers all around in war.
timann

Sounds plausible to me, although I still wonder how the Romans who usually stressed effectiveness a lot, put the humiliating aspect over the pragmatic. In my view, for the "professional" regular slingers, those newcomers must have been more of an obstacle than a support.

I also wonder how dangerous it really was to be a slinger under those circumstances. Sure, they usually had more distance to the enemy, but what if, let's say, an enemy cavalry unit charged upon them? By the nature of their weapon, I suppose, slingers must have stood quite loosely on the field. That means their cohesion was poor if they did not succeed in taking out most of the attackers from a distance.

Compared to a normal infantry unit, which can stand in close formation, one man protecting himself and his neighbour, slingers must have been rather easy prey for horsemen once they got between them,  even if the slingers also wore shields and swords. I think you are right, Thearos: being a slinger was not only more shameful (from a Roman point of view), it was also more dangerous than serving in other units.

Somewhere in a Roman source (unfortunately I forgot where) it is mentioned that the legionaries used the sling pretty skillful as it was used in spare time for hunting small game. They were well trained and specialized heavy Infantry men. But you never escape from your everyday pulmentum by hunting rabbits and ducks with your pilum or sword. I am pretty sure that the legionaries had at least private experience in slinging. (The comparable situation must have been when those hoplites of Xenophons "Tenthousands" who negotiated huge fees for accepting the socially badly regarded - but actually very urgent - slinging service. They produced their glandes during the following night and succeeded against the Persian professionals at the very next morning.)
The social punishment by making a proud legionary become a slinger is a matter of social status not of skill or practice. Please keep in mind that during the republican era the army was organized according to the five tax classes. Those who paid the lowest taxes could not afford expensive weapons. They used what everybody had at home, at least a sling. For a poor man this was acceptable, for a rich one not. Furtheron, as Rome was small at the beginning everybody knew why the rich neighbour newly moved to the ranks of the poor devils. What a shame!
It's like today. A big expensive car is really not in every respect the best choice. But if reputation matters you have no cheap option.

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