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Reply #60 - Mar 18th, 2011 at 6:54am
 
Hey Rat man and Paracord

I was waiting for this subject to get touched on again and here is what i was thinking in order to use a sling as a hunting weapon i think you would mainly have to stick to fouls.   With that being said  was wondering which ones and that would mainly be Canadian geese as they multiply fairly quickly.  As well as getting big with just vegetation.  And the reason i think sling hunting can only be done on foul is they let u get real close without flying away. They aren't super fast unless in flight and even then they aren't to to fast. And they make more than a adequate target (their just the size of a milk jug).  Also u can raise them on private land and when you had enough you can take them out only by claiming they are pest as they are here in Indiana since they never leave or migrate.  That is how i plan on hunting with a sling.
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Reply #61 - Mar 18th, 2011 at 7:18am
 
....also they flock together so if you miss your initial target you stand a good chance of hitting another.  We have geese here that migrate and the pest geese that you mentioned, that stay all year in great numbers and poop all over everything.  In this state you're not allowed to harm the pest geese.  There are people here who make a living chasing geese off of commercial properties with specially trained dogs.
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Reply #62 - Mar 18th, 2011 at 3:38pm
 
i saw a documentary bout those trained dogs they say the hardest part is getting them not to bite the geese.  But yea thats how i was planning on hunting with a sling any animal like a squirrel rabbit u can kinda forget about it.
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Reply #63 - Mar 18th, 2011 at 5:33pm
 
I think a rabbit would be a difficult target, but squirrels have a habit of hiding in their nests.  Shooting a squirrels' nest is considered unsportsmanlike and is illegal here, but in an emergency situation you could take as many shots as necessary and bomb them in their nests.  You'd have to use fairly large stones, but I think it could be done.  I would do this only if the alternative was starving in that there's really no sport to it.
   If I were shooting ducks and/or geese sitting on the water I'd use an underhand shot.  The topspin you get with such a shot causes your projectile to bounce forward in a low trajectory.  If you miss short you might still get a bird with your skipping stone.  Also underhand is my most accurate style.
   Again, both these means of hunting are illegal in New Jersey and I would only utilize them if it was absolutely necessary.
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Reply #64 - Mar 18th, 2011 at 7:24pm
 
in kansas, we can get pea gravel, which is about 1/2 of an inch. if you load this into a sling, it is like a shotgun, low distance, not very accurate, and if you are shooting in the general direction, you will probably hit it. so i could probably kill a rabbit, squirrel, or goose with them. Wink
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Reply #65 - Mar 18th, 2011 at 9:17pm
 
paracordslinger wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 7:24pm:
in kansas, we can get pea gravel, which is about 1/2 of an inch. if you load this into a sling, it is like a shotgun, low distance, not very accurate, and if you are shooting in the general direction, you will probably hit it. so i could probably kill a rabbit, squirrel, or goose with them. Wink

Try a staff sling instead of a hand sling.  I get a pattern as if I were shooting a 410 shotgun with a staff sling.
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Reply #66 - Mar 18th, 2011 at 9:20pm
 
Rat Man wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 5:33pm:
I think a rabbit would be a difficult target, but squirrels have a habit of hiding in their nests.  Shooting a squirrels' nest is considered unsportsmanlike and is illegal here, but in an emergency situation you could take as many shots as necessary and bomb them in their nests.  You'd have to use fairly large stones, but I think it could be done.  I would do this only if the alternative was starving in that there's really no sport to it.
  If I were shooting ducks and/or geese sitting on the water I'd use an underhand shot.  The topspin you get with such a shot causes your projectile to bounce forward in a low trajectory.  If you miss short you might still get a bird with your skipping stone.  Also underhand is my most accurate style.
  Again, both these means of hunting are illegal in New Jersey and I would only utilize them if it was absolutely necessary.  

With the nest, I would guess that there would be a good chance of the dead squirrel getting stuck in the nest.

Waiting under the tree at sun up or just before sundown would be a better idea.  The best idea would be to let a few traps do the work for you.
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Reply #67 - Mar 19th, 2011 at 3:28am
 
this subject comes up every couple of months it seems with the influx of new members, so i apologize to the veterans who have heard me say this a dozen times. i hunt quite often with my slings and have for many years. rabbits, squirrels, doves, quail, ducks, and ptarmigan and chuckers when i'm in the mountains. i've even taken turkey before, but that is about the limit in size of prey i suggest for even a seasoned slinger. ammo selection is very important in sling hunting. stones about the size of large chicken eggs or bigger are all but required to make a clean kill on even very small game such as dove. gravel will just not do the trick. it doesn't have the mass required to bring down prey cleanly. for even a well practiced slinger, you can only expect about one shot in ten or twenty to actually connect and even then you have to be prepared to chase and track your quarry. animals are tough and even mortally wounded ones can run or fly quite a distance. having said that i will tell you that i've gotten as many kills from bounce shots than i have with direct hits. that's one of the benefits the sling has over, say, bows or atlatls. i look at the sling as an opportunistic hunting weapon. that is, i rarely set out to go hunting with it, but rather always have one with me when i'm hiking and use it when the moment presents itself.

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Reply #68 - Mar 19th, 2011 at 9:48am
 
if an egg sized stone hits a squirrel, then it would probably ruin all the meat,therefore completley destroying the purpouse of a hunt! Angry
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Reply #69 - Mar 19th, 2011 at 12:02pm
 
I don't get that, paracordslinger.  Please explain how the meat would be ruined.  You might have a big, bloody bruise on one side but I think the squirrel would be just fine for cooking and eating.
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Reply #70 - Mar 19th, 2011 at 4:03pm
 
the stone woud most definitley break some bones, probably ribs, puncture the lungs, or any gut, thereforeruining the meat, or it would mangle the animal so badly that there would be no sense in trieng to clean it.
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Reply #71 - Mar 19th, 2011 at 5:10pm
 
paracordslinger wrote on Mar 19th, 2011 at 4:03pm:
the stone woud most definitley break some bones, probably ribs, puncture the lungs, or any gut, thereforeruining the meat, or it would mangle the animal so badly that there would be no sense in trieng to clean it.

It's much cleaner than a squirrel shot with a 12 gauge shotgun.  The bruise (which isn't all that bad anyway)-- that's what I call a natural tenderizer  Smiley
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Reply #72 - Mar 19th, 2011 at 5:25pm
 
WHY WOULD YOU EVEN CONSIDER SHHOTING A SQUIRREL WITH A 12 GUAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????? Shocked and there would be no bruise, it would be severely mangled!
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Reply #73 - Mar 19th, 2011 at 7:10pm
 
paracordslinger wrote on Mar 19th, 2011 at 5:25pm:
WHY WOULD YOU EVEN CONSIDER SHHOTING A SQUIRREL WITH A 12 GUAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????? Shocked and there would be no bruise, it would be severely mangled!

The point is that 12 gauge is overkill, and when compared to slinging a stone the bruise from a slingstone isn't that bad.

FWIW, Chris really has hunted a lot with slings and is our reigning authority. If he says you need an egg sized stone, then it must work.
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Reply #74 - Mar 19th, 2011 at 8:08pm
 
paracordslinger wrote on Mar 19th, 2011 at 5:25pm:
WHY WOULD YOU EVEN CONSIDER SHHOTING A SQUIRREL WITH A 12 GUAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????? Shocked and there would be no bruise, it would be severely mangled!

Some people are bad shots, I guess.  Many people hunt all kinds of small game with 12 gauges.

Personally, I prefer a .22 rifle or handgun or a good air pellet rifle, but a sling works fine.
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