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Reply #15 - Jun 16th, 2009 at 4:15am
 
So what about bigger game than a rabbit? One should be able to kill quite a lot of different game, anything smaller than goliath I mean. Smiley
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Reply #16 - Jun 16th, 2009 at 5:55am
 
I recommend wild boar.
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Reply #17 - Jun 16th, 2009 at 12:23pm
 
Blue whale?
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Reply #18 - Jun 16th, 2009 at 12:28pm
 
>>I recommend wild boar.

I'd like to watch a video of that ; -)
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Reply #19 - Jun 17th, 2009 at 9:37am
 
One very evil recommendation...
But watching it would be funny. Smiley
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Reply #20 - Jun 17th, 2009 at 11:38am
 
Evil, what do you mean evil...boars is suposedly wery tasty, you know.  Well, it could be difficult to kill a boar with a sling, so the best may be to stun it with the stone, aproach it swiftly, and strangle it with the sling before it regain its senses.
And do not forget that video Wink
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Reply #21 - Jun 18th, 2009 at 9:44pm
 
I dunno. Think maybe everyone is underestimating the power of a 4 - 5 oz. stone flying 100+ miles per hour and hitting the skull of ? Will definately put a hole in it. I hear slings were even used as a weapon in war. Don't think it was just to inconvenience the enemy....

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Reply #22 - Jun 18th, 2009 at 9:52pm
 
walter wrote on Jun 18th, 2009 at 9:44pm:
I dunno. Think maybe everyone is underestimating the power of a 4 - 5 oz. stone flying 100+ miles per hour and hitting the skull of ? Will definately put a hole in it. I hear slings were even used as a weapon in war. Don't think it was just to inconvenience the enemy....

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I agree, there is even proof that slings can put holes through a human skull with the projectile only going 93 mph (which is a slow speed for slings) , so im feeling pretty safe.
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Reply #23 - Jun 19th, 2009 at 6:40am
 
Yes, a fine weapon of war if you sling "en masse" at the enemy. There is nothing wrong with the power of a sling, itīs the accuracy thatīs wanting.
Btw attempting to make a headshot is frowned upon by hunters who use very precise fire arms, for reasons obvious to people who know something about hunting (or mammal anatomy).
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Reply #24 - Jun 19th, 2009 at 9:51am
 
nwmanitou wrote on Jun 16th, 2009 at 12:58am:
So what if you are not confident with your shot with a sling? You are hunting a rabbit. Hitting it would be a stroke of amazing luck anyways. And hitting a rabbit pretty much anywhere with a sling stone with average velocity will kill it. I'm not terribly worried about wounding a rabbit with a sling stone. I've killed them with a slingshot easily enough and a sling delivers far more energy to the target in comparison. Even if not immediately dispatched, a hit from a sling stone will stun it long enough for me to run up and finish the job.

So I say sling away, more than likely you are going to miss. But if you do get lucky and nail a bunny, be prepared to dress it out and eat it. (unless you are out doing pest control, then let the coyotes have it)

The "so what" we're referring to is that you will only recover a small percentage of your injured animals and the rest will crawl or limp into the bush to die a slow, agonizing death.  To some I guess that wouldn't matter.  It does to me.
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Reply #25 - Jun 19th, 2009 at 1:57pm
 
Did you not read the entire post? No offense, but I've harvested alot of wild game with slingshots, bows, and a myriad of firearms.


Killing small game is not like hunting deer. With deer, yes, shot placement is essential. But with little rabbits, a hit to the body with a sling stone is lethal. Because of a rabbit's anatomy and size, you are either going to hit it in the head or in the body as it tucks it's legs underneath, both lethal shots.

Essentially what I'm saying is if you are lucky enough to hit a rabbit with a sling stone the vast majority of the time it will die on the spot. So, you will either kill it or miss entirely. Not saying that the chance of just wounding it is none existent, but that it is very very slim and a risk all hunters take. Flukes happen, I've seen a rabbit survive a close range shot from a 16guage shotgun. It was mortally wounded but required a followup shot so as not to prolong its suffering.

Hence my original premise.. sling away at small game like rabbits and ground squirrels 'cause you are either going to kill it or miss entirely.

Oh, and Kuggur, the main reason why hunters generally do not attempt headshots with firearms is because they don't want to mess up the Antlers so they can be mounted later. However, head and neck shots are preferred when hunting antlerless or spikes as they drop the animal immediately (destroy the CNS). Even with a perfect heart shot an animal can run several hundred yards before expiring, sometimes causing it to be lost. Archery hunters avoid headshots because 1. they are very difficult, and 2. Arrows kill by hemorrhaging, so the best spot for a quick humane kill is the heart and lungs. Obviously, any archer that wants to be successful has to practice his blood tracking skills.

Sling stones kill by crushing. So unless the critter is small enough to kill with a body shot (rabbits, squirrels, birds) the head is the only viable target. The skull of a young deer, right behind the eye socket can be as thin as a 1/32 of an inch or about 1.5 mm. A stone to the temple will kill it dead. A relative who worked as a government culler personally dispatched thousands of deer, feral goats, and feral boar with the .22 lr. A tiny bullet considered suitable only for rodents and crows. Some of the deer were upwards of 200lbs yet they collapsed on the spot with barely a twitch from a .22 to the head. People slaughter 2000lb steers with the .22 or  a blow from a hammer to the head. A sling stone is not unlike a flying hammer.
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Reply #26 - Jun 19th, 2009 at 2:24pm
 
I side with nwmanitou on the rabbit kill issue, if you hit a rabbit with a good hard throw (not a miss fire, or a hesitant cast), it will pretty much die on the spot because of the impact shock. 

As for big game, as log as you are accurate (solid head shot accurate), I think you could take deer... as for the wild boar... not impossible I suppose... I wouldn't... but good luck with that...  and do post a video if you actually try it  Smiley


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Reply #27 - Jun 19th, 2009 at 5:24pm
 
I used to work with a guy that used slings to herd cattle in Mexico. They never threw at the cattle just in front of them to scare in the right direction. He told me that he has seen some younger cattle die from a single accidental shot to the neck. He also said that he has seen the horns shot off accidentally. This was very rare but shows the possilble power of the sling to flesh. He said his dad was the best shot in town and could take a soda can off a fence post at 50 yards.
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Reply #28 - Jun 20th, 2009 at 10:56am
 
I wouldn't hunt boar with anything less than a 12ga. , pigs are tough as nails with a nasty disposition to boot. I have heard tell of hunters shooting boar through the lugns and still having to shimmy up a tree to get away from the charging beast.....and as for head shots, i'm just not sure a stone from a sling will cause enough damage to a pig skull....their fairly thick headed.
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Reply #29 - Jun 20th, 2009 at 6:33pm
 
nwmanitou wrote on Jun 19th, 2009 at 1:57pm:
Oh, and Kuggur, the main reason why hunters generally do not attempt headshots with firearms is because they don't want to mess up the Antlers so they can be mounted later. However, head and neck shots are preferred when hunting antlerless or spikes as they drop the animal immediately (destroy the CNS).


God I hope you are wrong and the average hunter has more sense than that. The reason you should avoid head shots is because the brain is small and lies in a difficult to hit spot. Chances are big youīll hit the nasal/frontal cavaties, or even worse you blow away the lower jaw. Thatīs a pretty crappy way to die.

As goes for your sling hunting stories, well maybe you are a sling god, but I couldnīt make consistent shots, good enough for those kind of kills, even when I practised very day....No sling hunting for me.
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