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the Hoopack
Jun 1^st, 2009 at 5:19pm

hia everybody this is my first topic Grin

this is a weapon used by a race called the kender (unique to the dragonlance books very good read) its used as a walking stick and a catapult.
it took me years of not so vigilant looking to find the perfect branch for it (and even then its still a little bit bent in the middle) but here it is.

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Curious Aardvark Forum Moderation Offline Taller than the average Dwarf Posts: 13965 Midlands England Gender:	Re: the Hoopack Reply #1 - Jun 1^st, 2009 at 5:25pm lol nice one - a stabilised slingshot If you carve a notch near the other end you can attach a sling and use it as a staff slin too !
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kuggur slingdog Ex Member	Re: the Hoopack Reply #3 - Jun 1^st, 2009 at 6:26pm cronk70 wrote on Jun 1^st, 2009 at 5:31pm: ty whats a staff slin? A typo Type "staff sling" in the search box of this forum and you´ll find out more than you ever need to know about it.
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slinger87 Funditor Offline I bet I can throw a rock farther then you can! Posts: 731 MI Gender:	Re: the Hoopack Reply #4 - Jun 2^nd, 2009 at 7:13am Quote: cronk70 wrote on Jun 1^st, 2009 at 5:31pm: ty whats a staff slin? A typo Type "staff sling" in the search box of this forum and you´ll find out more than you ever need to know about it. and aint that the truth?
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Camo-sling Interfector Viris Spurii Offline Forge your own path. Posts: 1419 Australia Gender:	Re: the Hoopack Reply #5 - Jun 2^nd, 2009 at 7:30am Curious Aardvark wrote on Jun 1^st, 2009 at 5:25pm: lol nice one - a stabilised slingshot If you carve a notch near the other end you can attach a sling and use it as a staff slin too ! I like the way you think
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cronk70 Tiro Offline woof woof pant pant awooooooooo!!!!!! Posts: 23 Gender:	Re: the Hoopack Reply #6 - Jun 2^nd, 2009 at 3:01pm ty for the info but if i make a sling staff ittle be on another stick as this is supposed to be a walking stick as well.
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David Morningstar Slinging.org Moderator Offline Slinging Rocks! Posts: 3432 UK	Re: the Hoopack Reply #7 - Jun 2^nd, 2009 at 4:12pm There was a guy who used a forked branch to make a staff-sling hoopak, in the pic below. The center cord is shorter than the other two so as the pouch goes 'over the top' it pulls on the back of the pouch and rolls the ammo out of the front.
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Re: the Hoopack
Reply #8 - Jun 5^th, 2009 at 8:50am

greetings - I loved the Dragonlance books and always wondered how the hoopak worked, most descriptions were a bit ambigious, it seems to be a Staff/sling/slingshot/spear/Bullroarer - can you get yours to make the bullroarer noise?

heres a couple of links to descriptions ive found -

http://www.dlnexus.com/fan/rules/14451.aspx

http://www.valikorlia.com/wiki/Hoopak

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Re: the Hoopack
Reply #9 - Jun 8^th, 2009 at 1:34pm

Corvid wrote on Jun 5^th, 2009 at 8:50am:

greetings - I loved the Dragonlance books and always wondered how the hoopak worked, most descriptions were a bit ambigious, it seems to be a Staff/sling/slingshot/spear/Bullroarer - can you get yours to make the bullroarer noise?

heres a couple of links to descriptions ive found -

http://www.dlnexus.com/fan/rules/14451.aspx

http://www.valikorlia.com/wiki/Hoopak

not exactly but i think thats just the way i made it Embarrassed

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Re: the Hoopack
Reply #10 - Jun 11^th, 2009 at 7:08am

Corvid wrote on Jun 5^th, 2009 at 8:50am:

greetings - I loved the Dragonlance books and always wondered how the hoopak worked, most descriptions were a bit ambigious, it seems to be a Staff/sling/slingshot/spear/Bullroarer - can you get yours to make the bullroarer noise?

I agree that the descriptions were pretty vague. It was fiction, (and really good until they opened it up to a jillion different authors), but if a person knew how a bullroarer worked, they could probably make a hoopak that made noise.

If I remember correctly, the pictures shown of a hoopak showed it with pretty short cords, like six inches long or so, as opposed to the lengths commonly found in a staff sling. I wonder if that would make much of a difference performancewise.

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Re: the Hoopack
Reply #11 - Jun 11^th, 2009 at 7:40am

slinger87 wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2009 at 7:13am:

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cronk70 wrote on Jun 1^st, 2009 at 5:31pm:

ty

whats a staff slin?

A typo

Type "staff sling" in the search box of this forum and you´ll find out more than you ever need to know about it.

and aint that the truth?

Amen!
But please don't get "Staff Slin(g)" confused with the Slinging dot org staff.
They hate it when that happens.

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Reply #12 - Jun 11^th, 2009 at 7:57am

From
http://www.dlnexus.com/fan/rules/14451.aspx
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Hoopak: The hoopak is the most common of kender tools. This 5ft., ironwood staff has a short spike attached to its tip, which doubles as a spear or bo stick and inflicts the first damage value listed in the above chart for both. The staff's other end is forked and laced with gut. A stone may be flung by either planting the blade end of the hoopak in the earth and bending the staff back to sling the stone, or whirling the hoopak overhead as a traditional sling-staff. This tool acts like a bullroar when whirled in the air, creating a low thrumming sound. Other uses include prying with the blade, and picking apples with the gut

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Sounds like a LaCroix stick to me. (Ok, Lacrosse. The Indians who played the game were La Croix.)
The above description above does not mention a sling, just lacings at the forked end.
Made out of "Ironwood" and yet retains a lot of spring flex to be used as a catapult with the end simply stuck in the ground.

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Re: the Hoopack
Reply #13 - Jun 15^th, 2009 at 9:22pm

oy i remember those dragonlance books!
in my opinion, they suck, extremely cheasy, and waste of time. BUT...
i read one a summer ago and DID find it entertainign and ammusing, and i started a trend with em.
i read it then didnt read them for all the school year, then started again in the summer, sooooooo...
now i only read them every summer, and its a hobbit, and i do find them ammusing despite what i said.
hoopaks ok, but id rather the company of archers from the first book i think? (the just foud out ninas a freaking beastly girl)

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Re: the Hoopack
Reply #14 - Aug 25^th, 2009 at 4:03pm

boooooooooooo Angry

they are great books and there are tones of them too!!!

but back to the hoopack chuckrocks the spear tip u discribe was usualy barely sharp (after all it is suposed to be a walking stick as well...) try this link.

http://www.kencyclopedia.com/kender/general/kenderdl3e.cfm?page=hoopakHistory

for how they are discribed in the book and the history of it. (you kinda need to have red the book to understand the history but the rest is quite good good( Tongue

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