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wannabeslinger
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Shield tests
Aug 11th, 2008 at 4:58pm
 
I made a new shield.. which I unfortunately dont have any pics of because I cant for the life of me find where the camera charger is..so

The shield was 36 inch in Diameter made of approx. 1/2 thick plywood.  I used straps at the elbow and hand for a grip. I decided to test its capabilities.. I would much prefer to use authentic materials when saying I am testing a shield but ill work with what I got...

I did the following this to this shield. I tested the impact of different weapons... I wielded the shield while my brother did the following things. Struck it several times with a blunt short sword...almost no shock. Shot it from close range with an arrow using my 45lb@28' recurve, struck it with a 3 pound sledge hammer and struck it with a large fireman's ax

Short sword- Felt almost no shock at all
arrow- two circumstances that made this a strange outcome. the first is originally I planned on buying a boss for this shield... and after waiting like 3 months I decided to just cover the hole... so I used a square of pine instead of a boss, and I wasn't going to sacrifice A arrow ive spent alot of time on.. so I use an aluminum arrow... anyway there was almost no noticeable shock but the arrow didnt have a head... it did make a deep hole but didn't go all the way through (lucky for me LOL) I tested a two bladed  broad head and it went almost all the way through from 10 yards.
sledge hammer- Even a light hit was pretty jarring... I decided not to hit the shield very hard until I put it on the ground.. I easily split the Piece of pine I was using  in place of a boss. I think it wouldnt be nearly as jarring if I had a different grip that wouldn't place my hand (knuckles) against the wood.
Fire mans ax- again I wasn't going to wear the shield and have my brother come at me with an ax lol... The ax didnt penetrate fully but would knock someone down.. the spike on the other side of the ax did fully penetrate the shield.
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Re: Shield tests
Reply #1 - Aug 11th, 2008 at 5:16pm
 
What is your goal? I mean, smashing shields is great fun but why do so if there isen't any historical/scientific purpose? Wink
What shield design did you use and what design was the wooden shortsword? (Gladius , kopis, falcata etc or any other)
Try rocks  Cheesy launched by the means of a huge Balearic sling  Roll Eyes

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Reply #2 - Aug 11th, 2008 at 5:53pm
 
HHornblower wrote on Aug 11th, 2008 at 5:16pm:
What is your goal? I mean, smashing shields is great fun but why do so if there isen't any historical/scientific purpose? Wink
What shield design did you use and what design was the wooden shortsword? (Gladius , kopis, falcata etc or any other)
Try rocks  Cheesy launched by the means of a huge Balearic sling  Roll Eyes

yours sincerely,

HHornblower


its fun! haha

The main purpose of this little experiment to see what kind of effect the blow from the different weapons had... was it insignificant or did it have the power to knock me off balance and very possible open me up to a lethal blow.
I dunno about rocks lol...I imagine it would be possible as jarring as the sledge hammer

I will soon make a few historically accurate shields...

The short sword was a metal Katana
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Reply #3 - Aug 11th, 2008 at 8:45pm
 
The headless arrow is not a fair test...without a head of some kind, even a blunt, the arrow will lack forward mass and will not penetrate well at all.  Pointed heads, of course, will penetrate better than blunts.

Katanas are not generally thought of as short swords...did you perhaps mean wakizashi or ninjato?

Rocks from a sling would be unlikely to have anywhere near the impact/jarring force of a slegehammer, but could possibly punch through...lead glandes or steel ballbearings, however, can definitly punch right through 1/2" plywood.

Did you lay the sheild flat on the ground for the hammer/axe tests? If so, that is very unfair to the sheild, as there is no flex or 'give' to mitigate the impact.

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Reply #4 - Aug 11th, 2008 at 9:51pm
 
that sounds funnly dangouros! hey, if funnly aint a word, it is now!

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Reply #5 - Aug 11th, 2008 at 9:52pm
 
and whats a boss?

nevermind... ill google it
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Reply #6 - Aug 11th, 2008 at 9:56pm
 
WOW! that looks heavy and hard to carry!

i gotta build a sheild now...

maybe up to two inches thick... that sounds heavy...

then i need a sword, which will never happen (parents)

and armour...

and...

an...

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Reply #7 - Aug 11th, 2008 at 11:23pm
 
Archimedes wrote on Aug 11th, 2008 at 8:45pm:
The headless arrow is not a fair test...without a head of some kind, even a blunt, the arrow will lack forward mass and will not penetrate well at all.  Pointed heads, of course, will penetrate better than blunts.

Katanas are not generally thought of as short swords...did you perhaps mean wakizashi or ninjato?

Rocks from a sling would be unlikely to have anywhere near the impact/jarring force of a sledgehammer, but could possibly punch through...lead glandes or steel ballbearings, however, can definitely punch right through 1/2" plywood.

Did you lay the sheild flat on the ground for the hammer/axe tests? If so, that is very unfair to the sheild, as there is no flex or 'give' to mitigate the impact.

WRG


I know the arrow test wasnt great.. just spur of the moment thing and knowing my broad heads would Penetrate I didnt want to be behind it lol.

I think a rock could be depending on the circumstances.. a larger rock being 5oz or more moving at a much higher speed....

I was wearing the shield during the hammer test or at least until it hurt to much to hold it because of how hard I was getting hit.

the ax test was on the ground.. just for fun really.

I know the test really wasnt fair.. the first issue of course being that it wasnt  made of authentic materials but it was fun anyway and I did learn a little something

The shield will now become my official slinging target haha
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Re: Shield tests
Reply #8 - Aug 12th, 2008 at 5:10pm
 
A History Channel video
that we recently discussed
, did have an interesting segment on shields.  More work to make than a plywood shield, but it think it would be lighter and stronger.  The shield segment starts at two minutes and ten seconds past the start of part 3.

Here are links to all five parts:
History Channel - Ancient Discoveries - Siege of Troy 1/5
(10:00)
History Channel - Ancient Discoveries - Siege of Troy 2/5
(10:00)
History Channel - Ancient Discoveries - Siege of Troy 3/5
(10:00)
History Channel - Ancient Discoveries - Siege of Troy 4/5
(10:00)
History Channel - Ancient Discoveries - Siege of Troy 5/5
(    2:18)
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Re: Shield tests
Reply #9 - Aug 14th, 2008 at 6:02pm
 
Thanks, ive seen that before.... the bow was annoying.. not only is it made of modern materials.. its only comparison in speed would be a turtle with 3 missing legs....slow as hell... 90mph is very slow
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