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Reply #165 - Jan 21st, 2019 at 10:58am
 
german company - so you might need to install a vpn program to watch the videos from the states.
They're legit, registering shouldn't be a problem.

I'm still kicking myself, that when they contacted me to recommend a slinger, that i didn't say I'd do it myself 'Doh!'
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That said, louis is a lot more telegenic than I am Smiley
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Re: david and goliath
Reply #166 - Jan 21st, 2019 at 11:58am
 
Curious Aardvark wrote on Jan 21st, 2019 at 10:58am:
I'm still kicking myself, that when they contacted me to recommend a slinger, that i didn't say I'd do it myself 'Doh!'

Oh man!  That would have been extremely cool to do that.
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Reply #167 - Jan 22nd, 2019 at 11:19am
 
yeah, unfortunately it was the year before we did the hillfort experiments.

Had it been after I'd have known that I could hit a head at over 20 metres and would have talked them into taking me to israel.
But alas, it was not to be Smiley

I still say luis makes a better goliath than a david whistle
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Reply #168 - Dec 23rd, 2021 at 4:32pm
 
Hello! Haven’t been here in a long time. I’m sorry but I don’t have the time I wanted to be here talking about slings. This post. Is from a long time ago , and maybe you will like seen our last video filmed from a german company.
Alex or David I don’t know if here is the place fir post it, ig not say it to me and put it where it has to be
https://youtu.be/y2qfjvwDM3A
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Reply #169 - Dec 23rd, 2021 at 4:55pm
 
balearic-sling wrote on Dec 23rd, 2021 at 4:32pm:
Hello! Haven’t been here in a long time. I’m sorry but I don’t have the time I wanted to be here talking about slings. This post. Is from a long time ago , and maybe you will like seen our last video filmed from a german company.
Alex or David I don’t know if here is the place fir post it, ig not say it to me and put it where it has to be
https://youtu.be/y2qfjvwDM3A


Would be great if you could be here more often
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Reply #170 - Feb 13th, 2024 at 4:44am
 
Hello. Does somebody know, why some former slingers (for exempale the balears) wrapped rsp bolster theire left arm?

see this pic: https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=XrwQOE4Z&id=000A2E335690B5...
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Reply #171 - Feb 13th, 2024 at 7:10am
 
Dieter Beller wrote on Feb 13th, 2024 at 4:44am:
Does somebody know, why some former slingers (for exempale the balears) wrapped rsp bolster theire left arm?

probably as a shield. a last moment "I can't avoid the shot" sacrifice of the left arm over vitals or legs.

slingers would be more dispersed and they'd probably prefer avoiding shots instead of using a shield all the time.
hanging leather or thick cloth would be a good way to stop some incoming shots.

I think I've seen shields with thick ropes hanging on the lower end to protect the legs from slingstones. probably from pacific islands but I dont remember any source.
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Reply #172 - Feb 13th, 2024 at 8:09am
 
Dieter Beller wrote on Feb 13th, 2024 at 4:44am:
Hello. Does somebody know, why some former slingers (for exempale the balears) wrapped rsp bolster theire left arm?

see this pic: https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=XrwQOE4Z&id=000A2E335690B5...


Ask the artist ?

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Reply #173 - Feb 13th, 2024 at 8:27am
 
Sarosh wrote on Feb 13th, 2024 at 7:10am:
Dieter Beller wrote on Feb 13th, 2024 at 4:44am:
Does somebody know, why some former slingers (for exempale the balears) wrapped rsp bolster theire left arm?

probably as a shield. a last moment "I can't avoid the shot" sacrifice of the left arm over vitals or legs.

slingers would be more dispersed and they'd probably prefer avoiding shots instead of using a shield all the time.
hanging leather or thick cloth would be a good way to stop some incoming shots.

I think I've seen shields with thick ropes hanging on the lower end to protect the legs from slingstones. probably from pacific islands but I dont remember any source.



Interesting thoughts ....
Clearly battle tactics vary by culture and experience but the reconstruction at Burnswark shows the romans came in and used uphill sling barrage from behind purpose built earth mounds.

Joe MM in his videos did some tests of shield versus sling (what fun 😁) but in his video of Lecuyer (greek ) style slinging he "wore" a towel over his left arm to mimic the picture.
He speculated over use but I'm not aware of any firm conclusions.

Perhaps current sling users/researchers in places like India,Tibet and Guam may have strong views but I think it would take a doctoral dissertation or research fellowship to chase that one up.

We may have to wait  for further written evidence to be recovered to find out why slingers in different arenas covered their non dominant arm.

Discuss.
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Reply #174 - Feb 13th, 2024 at 8:05pm
 
Wrapping the arm serves as protection. A tightly wrapped skin with leather. You can also wrap a board. We tried that. You can block well with it. I prefer a shield myself.
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Reply #175 - Feb 15th, 2024 at 6:16am
 
xud9a - call me zud 👍 wrote on Feb 13th, 2024 at 8:09am:
Ask the artist ?

Fully agree.
The drawing is contemporary. Without explanation, it has no historical value. The attached photo is a medieval miniature showing the use of the sling in medieval agriculture. It has historical value.
Jaegoor wrote on Feb 13th, 2024 at 8:05pm:
Wrapping the arm serves as protection. A tightly wrapped skin with leather. You can also wrap a board. We tried that. You can block well with it. I prefer a shield myself.

Yes, it's necessary to test but what does that protect from ? Club, sword, arrow, slingball or dog bite ?
Dieter Beller wrote on Feb 13th, 2024 at 4:44am:
Does somebody know, why some former slingers (for exempale the balears) wrapped rsp bolster theire left arm?

Your question is interesting. Check the source first and then we can test different scenarios.
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Reply #176 - Feb 15th, 2024 at 11:44pm
 
I agree with the consensus that it's for protection.  But I think a small shield would work better.  Even in a situation where an incoming attack could be seen enough in advance to block with that padding (or whatever), I think it could be dodged.  Although that obviously depends on the projectile and speed it's moving.

The image has a caption that it was done by a guy named Iñaki Diéguez.  I googled his name and he has a website.  I sent him a message asking if he has any more information, or a reference for this type of protection.

A couple other thoughts.  Maybe it's padding for a shield that isn't in the picture.  Or maybe it's a spare tunic.  Grin
I also had a thought that it could also be used for carrying supplies or equipment of some kind, but carrying anything on the forearm would be very inefficient.
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Reply #177 - Feb 17th, 2024 at 12:33pm
 
Sarosh wrote on Feb 13th, 2024 at 7:10am:
probably as a shield

Jaegoor wrote on Feb 13th, 2024 at 8:05pm:
Wrapping the arm serves as protection. A tightly wrapped skin with leather. You can also wrap a board. We tried that. You can block well with it. I prefer a shield myself.

joe_meadmaker wrote on Feb 15th, 2024 at 11:44pm:
I agree with the consensus that it's for protection.


I remember coming across a video that noted the use of a cloak wrapped around the arm for an emergency shield in some roman battle. Sadly I can't seem to find it though.
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