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i hope it isn't the same rod as mentioned elsewhere, in the child-care section

Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell. (Proverb 23:14)

what works when applied to the aztecs mightn't be appropriate for one's own child, but it must be true, because the bible is the word of God - it says so itself!

[quote author=curious_aardvark link=1179326399/30#32 date=1187433854]hmm, well usually I'm the first person to start an argument. But this probably isn't the topic to rehash the old: [i]'the bible is  a book of made up stories' [/i]- [i]'oh no it's not it's an historical text' [/i]argument AGAIN :-)

Any way you look at it nobody ever mentions the israelites using staff slings. And certainly not against goliath.
Yes a shepherd would have had a staff or crook - most shepherds do. It's a good way of getting sheep out of awkward places. And yes it's also probably a good bet that david would have been able to use it as a weapon. But it's a shepherds staff Not a staff sling.

[b]We all have different beliefs - it doesn't have to be an issue very single time [/b]:-)  

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Amen to that one!!!!

SV,

Have you ever considered that your constant bitter little anti-Bible, anti-Christian jibes are as BORING as they are unconvincing? As I said to English, life is too short to waste it studying a book you don't agree with. Just get over it.

If TS is a bell end you're the complete trumpet.

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no, obviously

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the most influential book in the world deserves study - how do we make our minds up otherwise?

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if it annoys you that i think he's a bell-end, i'll change the assertion in the interests of harmony. after all, it's probably not his fault

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amen

SV

ok

SV

sv wrote on Aug 18^th, 2007 at 5:28am:


October 3, 2007

Hmm.  This is one of the most interesting threads I’ve run across.   Ho-kay.

Irritating posts slung aside (pun intended), I think the answer may be that we’re dealing with a bit of psy-war in the David v Goliath episode.  Just for fun, let’s pretend it happened.  And I am a practicing Christian.  One day maybe I’ll get it right.

After reading all the posts an idea occurs to me: perhaps David did carry his shepherd’s staff with him and his sling coiled away neatly in his throwing hand.   Our ancestors were not idiots.  They knew about deception.

At the crucial moment, while Goliath was still laughing at the un-armored Hebrew boy, David drops his staff, loads his sling, and WHAMBO! knocks Goliath into the ever after.

OK, Slingers. You tell me: how fast can you get a sling into action assuming it’s coiled in your throwing hand’s fist, both cords in place and ready?  Fifteen seconds?  Fifteen seconds is eternity in combat.  Say even 30 seconds.  By this time Goliath may have stopped laughing and realized that something odd was going on here.

By the way: at this time the Hebrews were still bronze age people.  The Philistines were iron age people.  That’s why King David confiscated all the Philistine iron-smiths and put them to work for the Hebrews.

That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.  

Trebuchet

No your observations pretty much match mine.
Great for indirect plunging fire, but not much else.

Marc Adkins

Trebuchet wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2007 at 9:01pm: