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Reply #7980 - Mar 16th, 2025 at 5:27pm
 
I went with two-under.  So the trapezoidal version.  I had done some experiments with it a couple weeks ago, but I couldn't remember which was which.  The way I joined the braid after the fingerloop ended up setting the two-under pattern.  Looking at the other braid patterns on TJ's site, one of the six strand patterns has the two-under, three-under that you mentioned, Joe (adjusted for the fewer strands).

The stretch is noticeable, but I don't think it's significant.  Using pliers, I can about eight inches to stretch an extra inch.

Overall the sling turned out...fine.  It throws.  I'm a little discouraged 'cause none of the slings I've made have been better than the white and green one.
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Reply #7981 - Mar 22nd, 2025 at 11:34am
 
I've had my first few sessions of the year these past few days, and it's been great fun, so figure I would show my preferred practice place and setup rn. In the industrial area on the outskirts of town; very few people come through which is perfect. Already had to stop shooting to show some people as its not a regular hobby around these parts. Neither is juggling though so kind of used to that from before.

Cut up a chicken oven dish and attach it with a magnet (last session didn't work well due to HEAVY sidewinds so will be TWO magnets next time); despite being light it makes a decently satisfying sound upon hitting and is VERY quick to attach/detach. Need to get more tennis balls because rn, though that could do my fat ass good atm, it's a lot of running.

Also planning to get a lacrosse ball to see if it goes through the fence (recommended as ammo if anyone has tried it?). Wind is a constant issue so figure these, being heavier and solid, would be a possibly better option? The tennis balls squeeze their way through the fence at times so not shooting while the odd jogger/dog-walker goes by but it'd be MORE running to get the ammo. Maybe lacrosse balls are more prone to bouncing off rather than squeezing through though idk?

Distance I think varied about 30-50 meters, couple of lines in the grass to go by. Got pretty good and consistent with the mid length 4 strand round braids would say (but main one is already starting to wear near the holding part a few sessions/about 10 hours in; that normal or design/user error?). Within 1x1 m usually. Distance closer than 30 meters had pretty good spread of hits closer to within 50x50 cm which I understand would mean a hit on an "official" target.

But the two flat 6 strand tried were absolutely TERRIBLE. ALL shots with them went down hard into the ground and to the left. Dk what's wrong exactly, if anyone has ideas (?), but probably design-flaws on my part (OR general skill-issue. Might be that too but obv prefer to blame the slings Wink).

On that topic for how long does a REAL sling hold up generally (with proper care)? Shooting like this is fun enough for me to consider getting one.

Edit to show the state of the sling rn. FEELS like a lot of wear for just a few sessions? Probably less than 10 hours/1000 throws in total (with balearic style mostly so not much hitting the ground). Advice? Have gotten better at making these, so replacing is not a big issue, but low on material atm and it still takes a good half-full hour + finger fatigue.









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Reply #7982 - Mar 22nd, 2025 at 7:44pm
 
Good target idea!

I haven't used lacrosse balls personally.  Based on the size and weight they should work pretty well.  Although they are just slightly smaller than a tennis ball, and more than twice the weight.  So going through the fence is likely to be a bigger problem than with tennis balls.

I responded to your other post in the QUESTIONS topic.  If you put a little wax on that sling, it could help slow the fraying.  Nothing will stop it entirely.
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Reply #7983 - Mar 23rd, 2025 at 7:54am
 
Paracord has some very real advantages but everyone has different "needs".
Perhaps, have a look at other materials and styles to see how they feel ?

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Reply #7984 - Mar 25th, 2025 at 8:52am
 
This is the closest I have ever come to creating a “spherical cow” sling. Go see the link to videos in the maths area.

What do I mean by spherical cow? It’s a physicist joke about over-simplifying a model of something to make the math easier. The “ideal” sling has zero mass and disconnects from the ammo instantaneously when the release cord is let loose.

This sling cups inward on the retention side and outward on the release. It imparts almost no spin on a wet tennis ball during release.

Last photo is a different sling showing the spinning cone behind it as water droplets flying off the ball.
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Reply #7985 - Apr 1st, 2025 at 8:16pm
 
dying to know what sort of sling weave patterns yall have come up with for dyneema cordages. i could do something slick like what erricrice recently posted in cotton if i had some instruction. i dig the tapered releases cord and hadn't thought to do that. i am planning on buying a spool of some zing-it (unless theres a better/cheaper dyneema suggestion) and have woven several simple slings myself but they're never anything to write home about. now im set on doing a tapered one. appreciate any response
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Reply #7986 - Apr 1st, 2025 at 9:26pm
 
This is the tutorial I've been using for my braided slings lately: https://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1382647726

It works great for dyneema too, although mine is pretty messy just because it was early in my braiding days and I was not so great at it then. Dyneema is a brand name, so if you look for the generic name UHMWPE you'll find it much cheaper. I used this 1mm stuff and it worked fine: https://www.amazon.com/9KM-DWLIFE-Braided-Hammock-Climbing/dp/B0BRXHX44X

Although it resulted in a pretty thin and light sling, ~20g with only 5 starting strands(doubled to 10 after the finger loop merge), so you could easily double that and still end up with a pretty light sling with some size to it, or start with something thicker like 1.5-2mm.
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Reply #7987 - Apr 1st, 2025 at 9:29pm
 
NooneOfConsequence wrote on Mar 25th, 2025 at 8:52am:
This is the closest I have ever come to creating a “spherical cow” sling. Go see the link to videos in the maths area.

What do I mean by spherical cow? It’s a physicist joke about over-simplifying a model of something to make the math easier. The “ideal” sling has zero mass and disconnects from the ammo instantaneously when the release cord is let loose.

This sling cups inward on the retention side and outward on the release. It imparts almost no spin on a wet tennis ball during release.

Last photo is a different sling showing the spinning cone behind it as water droplets flying off the ball.



Ha, nice! How is the accuracy with no spin? I imagine short distances it is the same or maybe even a bit better, but longer-distance would obviously suffer without the rifle spin to stabilize it.
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Reply #7988 - Apr 1st, 2025 at 10:40pm
 
I use this listing:  https://a.co/d/h5KvOVC

UHMWPE has a few other acronyms, HMPE is one.
Ultra High Molecular Weight Poly-Ethylene
High Modulus Poly-Ethylene

I'm not really sure how 'high modulus' is equivalent to 'ultra high molecular weight,' but I believe the Internet on this one.   Grin
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Reply #7989 - Apr 2nd, 2025 at 1:16am
 
They are referring to separate features of the material. The high modulus is just referring to the high amount of force required to stretch the material. High molecular weight is just referring to the long polymer chain that makes the material. Long polymer chains make it so the material has a high 'crystallinity' or ordered portions of the material that give it the high modulus (i.e. spring constant). Low density PE has short chains and is very disordered which also makes it have a lower modulus.
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Reply #7990 - Apr 7th, 2025 at 11:52am
 
Finally got around to making a proper nylon mason line sling. 5 strands, each made up of 3 #18 mason line strings(6 after fingerloop merge). This stuff is slippery! Real hard to keep tight and twisted, but I think it came out alright. A bit on the heavy side, 62g, but still feels pretty good because it's so soft and supple.
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Reply #7991 - Apr 7th, 2025 at 5:22pm
 
A thing of beauty.
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Reply #7992 - Apr 14th, 2025 at 7:57am
 
Three ‘Jaegoor style’ Balearics. Made them quite a while ago, but brought them back into action with a Danish oil finish.
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Reply #7993 - Apr 14th, 2025 at 2:07pm
 
Stunning! They appear to be quite flat given their width, how many strands did use?
I've tried braiding with seven strands, but I found it difficult to get as even results as with five strands.
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Reply #7994 - Apr 14th, 2025 at 3:33pm
 
kairo wrote on Apr 14th, 2025 at 2:07pm:
They appear to be quite flat given their width, how many strands did use?

Maybe the picture is deceiving, as they’re actually fairly thick, save the thinner one on the right. The middle one is 69.5cm long (27 3/8”) and 96.3g in weight. The one on the left is 59cm (23 1/4”) and 79.7g.
Heavy but not sluggish. Fantastic release.
All three are braided with 11 strands, or 22 depending on how you look at it.
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