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MMF Junior Member Offline Slinging Rocks Posts: 74 The United States of America Gender:	Re: Pictures of Slings and Slinging Reply #7395 - Dec 7^th, 2022 at 5:42pm Oh, I see. I also don't care for the cupped pouch. I make mine twined pouches with a "butterfly pattern" but I scrunch up the wings before removing the sticks. This makes the pouch flat.
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Reply #7396 - Dec 8^th, 2022 at 8:45am

Archaic Arms wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 5:23pm:

After trying both designs, I do not at all understand why a sling would be woven to be cupped. A flat woven sling will accept a radius nicely, but does not hinder the release anything like as much as the former. It does not make sense to me.

your remark is interesting. I throw ovoids at a target at 20 meters and I've never had release problem. Are there cases where this form in unsuitable and which ?

Neil Anir, your Mk1 has a fantastic look.

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Reply #7397 - Dec 9^th, 2022 at 4:47pm

TOMBELAINE wrote on Dec 8^th, 2022 at 8:45am:

your remark is interesting. I throw ovoids at a target at 20 meters and I've never had release problem. Are there cases where this form in unsuitable and which ?

By making the pouch cupped, it makes the release slower. They are also more vulnerable to hang-ups, since it doesn't open as easily.
It isn't necessary, so why do it?

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Reply #7398 - Dec 9^th, 2022 at 5:34pm

Archaic Arms wrote on Dec 9^th, 2022 at 4:47pm:

TOMBELAINE wrote on Dec 8^th, 2022 at 8:45am:

your remark is interesting. I throw ovoids at a target at 20 meters and I've never had release problem. Are there cases where this form in unsuitable and which ?

By making the pouch cupped, it makes the release slower. They are also more vulnerable to hang-ups, since it doesn't open as easily.
It isn't necessary, so why do it?

So you can do this! Grin

https://youtu.be/z17OLpWALhk

On a serious note, I do like cupped pouches better for spherical projectiles. A split pouch definitely works too, but doesn't hold as securely. The trade off is that the release may not be as clean, as you mentioned.

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Reply #7399 - Dec 10^th, 2022 at 5:54am

joe_meadmaker wrote on Dec 9^th, 2022 at 5:34pm:

So you can do this!

What is the name of this new style ? Grin

Neil Anir, I love your Mk1. So if you want use it, you must use spherical, ovoid or biconic projectiles. And enjoy.

If you use bad stones, better leather pockets (smoother) and more resistant to abrasion.

Just my idea, It's up to you to test.

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MichaelJ607 Novicius Offline Posts: 5 Gender:	Re: Pictures of Slings and Slinging Reply #7400 - Dec 10^th, 2022 at 10:19am @hubert do you still make slings for sale or are they personal collection now?
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Reply #7401 - Dec 10^th, 2022 at 3:53pm

joe_meadmaker wrote on Dec 9^th, 2022 at 5:34pm:

So you can do this!

https://youtu.be/z17OLpWALhk

On a serious note, I do like cupped pouches better for spherical projectiles. A split pouch definitely works too, but doesn't hold as securely. The trade off is that the release may not be as clean, as you mentioned.

Yes I agree for spherical projectiles its not a problem, and with something very low friction like ice, the release difference would be much less noticeable. However when using something like stones, especially smaller ones, the effect is most noticeable. I just don't get it needs to be make cupped when a flat bed sling will sink slightly in the middle to hold something like a tennis ball securely.

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joe_meadmaker Slinging.org Administrator Offline Slinging Ice is Cool! Posts: 3128 PA, USA	Re: Pictures of Slings and Slinging Reply #7402 - Dec 10^th, 2022 at 5:12pm @AA - Just curious, would you consider an Egyptian style sling (like the one Acro makes in this video: https://youtu.be/ttqhH_W8264) to be a cupped pouch.
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Reply #7403 - Dec 11^th, 2022 at 3:40am

joe_meadmaker wrote on Dec 10^th, 2022 at 5:12pm:

@AA - Just curious, would you consider an Egyptian style sling (like the one Acro makes in this video: https://youtu.be/ttqhH_W8264) to be a cupped pouch.

Yes, as well as the originals (aside from Petrie Lahun 800BC) That's what confuses me.
Obviously the cupped pouch was popular in Egypt, but I don't see a reason to make them like that unless your doing acrobatics.

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Reply #7404 - Dec 11^th, 2022 at 10:44am

Archaic Arms wrote on Dec 11^th, 2022 at 3:40am:

Obviously the cupped pouch was popular in Egypt, but I don't see a reason to make them like that unless your doing acrobatics.

If the Egyptians used it, is that probably these slings were adapted to their projectiles. If it doesn't work for you, is that they are not suitable for the use that you expect.
Archaic Arms wrote on Dec 9^th, 2022 at 4:47pm:

By making the pouch cupped, it makes the release slower. They are also more vulnerable to hang-ups, since it doesn't open as easily.
It isn't necessary, so why do it?

That's not at all how I feel. But of course, I can be wrong.

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TOMBELAINE Funditor Offline Slinging Rocks! Posts: 791 france Gender:	Re: Pictures of Slings and Slinging Reply #7405 - Dec 12^th, 2022 at 4:19am From personal experience, this is what I understand from this model. 1) Without being rigid, the pouch doesn't bend much. There is therefore no problem of opening. 2) By a spike, a bad pebble could get caught in a "mesh". That why I use only round slingstones. Anyway, it works for me.
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Scorpion Vin Descens Offline Still slinging better than archery! Posts: 210 Gender:	Re: Pictures of Slings and Slinging Reply #7406 - Dec 28^th, 2022 at 10:49am Sisal weaving rope and pouch of hard biker pants learher 🙂
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joe_meadmaker Slinging.org Administrator Offline Slinging Ice is Cool! Posts: 3128 PA, USA	Re: Pictures of Slings and Slinging Reply #7407 - Dec 28^th, 2022 at 7:21pm @Scorpion Vin - Great looking sling!
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TOMBELAINE Funditor Offline Slinging Rocks! Posts: 791 france Gender:	Re: Pictures of Slings and Slinging Reply #7408 - Dec 29^th, 2022 at 4:13am Good weather, good sea, and good sling.
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Scorpion Vin Descens Offline Still slinging better than archery! Posts: 210 Gender:	Re: Pictures of Slings and Slinging Reply #7409 - Dec 29^th, 2022 at 8:12am Thank you all ✨, it's getting better every time. My slings are all the same design, except that the weaving quality and strength improve each time. I think the most difficult thing is to weave "Egyptian style sling"
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