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Reply #4050 - Dec 2nd, 2013 at 12:43pm
 
An interesting  braid and a nice sling! I think I'll give this braid also a try when I have time.

Tomas wrote on Dec 2nd, 2013 at 11:50am:
Thanks:) I am not happy with the loose ends with the finger loop but I don't know how to avoid that with natural materials yet


There are several approaches:
- Start with the fingerloop. Fold the braid to make the loop.
- Trace your braid backwards and then either taper the strings you are braiding with or hide them in the core of the braid. This works well with round braids.
- An eye splice for 3 strand ropes.
- Make an adornment out of it, like I did it in a "Lovelock-inspired" sling.
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- Hide it under a whipping / wrapping or similar thing. If you like fluffy stuff you could also make a pom-pom or a tassel around it. If I remember correctly I saw this once in a bolivian(?) sling.


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Reply #4051 - Dec 2nd, 2013 at 4:35pm
 
Thanks Teg- I generally try to splice it back into the braid if it's a synthetic material. Can you elaborate on the second option you proposed?
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Reply #4052 - Dec 2nd, 2013 at 5:35pm
 
Tomas wrote on Dec 2nd, 2013 at 4:35pm:
Thanks Teg- I generally try to splice it back into the braid if it's a synthetic material. Can you elaborate on the second option you proposed?



Two photos of a "quick and dirty" model appended.

I substituted the white strings by coloured threads. Green threads turn counterclockwise, blue threads clockwise. 6 strand round braid. I traced back all three green threads, one blue thread and with the second blue thread I'm working this moment.
A 6 strand braid has a hollow core. So in the end you pull the threads into the hollow core (or continue tracing back and taper them). This step is not shown.
Just do this "tracing back" for long enough. 5 full turns should be enough, but it depends on the braid and the material. With the green threads I made one revolution. The tension on the braid will usually hold it together, so no seewing, glueing or whipping is required. Use a needle with a stub point and pay attention on how tight you make your braid. Test for stability before you cut the strings.

To my knowledge this works with most braids pretty well. The tricky part is to figure out how to begin so that the transition looks nice. But this I will leave up to you.  Wink

There are many, many variations of this approach. Make some models, use imagination and make what you like most Wink.

I did a similar thing in the Lovelock sling with a 8 strand square braid in the picture above.
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Reply #4053 - Dec 2nd, 2013 at 5:58pm
 
I removed the coloured threads, quickly finished it and cut all strings without tapering or pulling them into the core. It seems that for this string already one and a half revolution produces a stable result. But I would not trust it with my life  Wink
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Reply #4054 - Dec 4th, 2013 at 3:40am
 
Tomas wrote on Dec 1st, 2013 at 6:05pm:
Got a new experiment to share. I learned to make a "Mexican round braid" and put it on the edges of the pouch. I used some good quality synthetic cord to resist abrasion and green jute for the cords. This one is kind of a rough copy but it works fantastic.
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Very impressive work! I like how the form of the pouch continues into the braid which then is tapered. Also using abrasion-resistant material in the pouch and jute (= light, flexible natural fiber) for the cords seems to be the perfect choice.
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Reply #4055 - Dec 4th, 2013 at 9:12am
 
My first sling.  I favored using this one for the better part of a year now.  Took it on about 13 or 14 Hunts this year for Hare and Squirrel.  Only 2 made it to the table.

Now this winter I'm on the quest for securing GoPro footage of me nailing a Snowshoe Hare.  Wish me luck - its alot harder than using the 'ol .22
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Reply #4056 - Dec 4th, 2013 at 6:39pm
 
Nice sling, and good luck on the rabbit hunt. That would make a nice video.
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Reply #4057 - Dec 5th, 2013 at 3:54am
 
lbfist wrote on Dec 4th, 2013 at 9:12am:
My first sling.  I favored using this one for the better part of a year now.  Took it on about 13 or 14 Hunts this year for Hare and Squirrel.  Only 2 made it to the table.


I hope they were tasty Wink
Great work! Not everybody`s first sling turns out so well made.
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Reply #4058 - Dec 5th, 2013 at 4:14am
 
By the way, I finally had time to take some pictures of my recent slings. This one I started more than a month ago. First I made the pouch and braided some inches at each end. Then I treated the finished parts with furniture wax, that contains some organic solvent. This had such a strong smell, that I had to wait almost 2 weeks until it had disappeared. Thereafter I finished the braids.
The solvent doesn`t seem to damage the natural fibers (jute), but the long lasting smell of the furniture wax was the reason to experiment with melted candle for waxing fibers like I´ve shown before.
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Reply #4059 - Dec 5th, 2013 at 4:40am
 
3 slings without finger loops. The retention cords are about 40 cm longer than the release cords and are whipped around the palm. The effective sling length can be varied easily and once you get used to it this kind of sling performs like any other. My preferred sling length I marked with a coloured whipping or -in the sisal sling- with a knot, where the cord comes out between the fingers. The "half peruvian" sling on the top I called so, because the pouch has a flat belly at the release side whereas on the retention side the pouch divides directly into 2 parts. All three slings have very soft and flexible transitions from pouch to release cord and perform very well.
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Reply #4060 - Dec 5th, 2013 at 4:47am
 
Another seamless-two-layer-pouch-sling, this time with flat braided cords. This sling was used for my first golf ball throw some days ago and is very accurate (the sling, not me  Wink ).
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Reply #4061 - Dec 5th, 2013 at 5:40am
 
Right at the time I have finally found out how to use braided split pouches correctly I got a sling from a trade with Dan (the black one on the picture, made of tarred bank line). Its performance is very good and after having seen how well the tapering was made with synthetic cords* I had to give a try and made the tiger sling. The cords I used are thicker than the ones in Dan`s sling and less stiff, what made some problems in the twisted release end. The finished product turned out to my full satisfaction, especially the pouch (bottom picture): a indicates the knee, b the belly, that I found out could be made more flat and flexible by crossing two strands on the back side, making a kind of reverse knee (c). The tiger sling throws very good, even small ammo is held securely in the pouch when loaded correctly, i.e. using Teg´s advice from page 269 (reply #4032) "I started to shoot slings asymmetrically, which means that I place the shot not in the middle of the pouch, but more towards the release end so that the belly is nearly under the stone or ball."   

* One reason why I prefer natural fibers is that you can easily add or remove strands in a braid by untwisting the cords and work single parts into the continuing braid to get a seamless transition. Also a drop of glue is soaked easily by natural materials. Synthetic cords are slippery and have to be melted at their ends.
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Reply #4062 - Dec 5th, 2013 at 10:45am
 
Nice slings!

lakeslinger wrote on Dec 5th, 2013 at 5:40am:
The tiger sling throws very good, even small ammo is held securely in the pouch when loaded correctly, i.e. using Teg´s advice from page 269 (reply #4032) "I started to shoot slings asymmetrically, which means that I place the shot not in the middle of the pouch, but more towards the release end so that the belly is nearly under the stone or ball."   


Thank you for the feedback. I'm glad to hear, that this also works for you.
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Reply #4063 - Dec 5th, 2013 at 1:28pm
 
Thanks again Lakeslinger and Teg, here's a link to a good tutorial
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ikoKfgm2SMw
He talks a lot but he's good!
There are lots of lacing patterns and even ring hitches would work well too Smiley
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Reply #4064 - Dec 5th, 2013 at 3:11pm
 
Tomas, I blame you for turning my pizza into a lump of coal! I completely forgot it while watching the video. It is good (the video, not the pizza)!  Wink Thanks!

PS: The action begins at around 7 minutes Wink.
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