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he not only talks bollocks, he can shoot too

SV

hi aussieslinger

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yes, that's a possibility - like poison gas today, or crossbows in the middle ages. maybe it was ignoble to want to attack an enemy without personal risk.
i wouldn't think that the philistines thought of the sling as being feeble because it clearly isn't - maybe the soldiery of the day, intent on proving themselves in hand-to-hand combat, just didn't think it was a "sporting" way to fight

SV      

Jeepers... and I took Him at his word to ask by simple prayer.  I don't believe he ever asked folks, let alone expected them to take him at his word.  He told Peter when he responded He (Jesus) was the Christ, the son of the living God, that flesh and blood had not revealed that knowledge to him but his Father which was in heaven...  I don't think God backed up the knowledge truck and dumped that on Peter without his first asking through simple prayer... but most people don't believe God both hears and answers prayers... Right???  ... and if we believe something then THAT is our reality...

hi Funslinger

you are right, corroboration is the key. however, it is impossible for an account to verify itself. the only account of the water and blood wound is in the Bible itself, which we "know" to be true because it's the word of God.
by the same reasoning, the account of Mohammed's ascent into heaven astride a winged horse must also be true, since the Koran is (it says!) the word of God - like the Bible, the only verification for it's divine origin is what we read in it - what it says about itself.
so IF Jesus was dead (as proved by the spear) and came back to life then what the Bible says is true. But if it isn't true, and was written years after the event after legends had started to spring up, how would we know?
as i said earlier, we choose for or against a religion, depending on our innate characters, then review the evidence from a for-or-against standpoint.

"why has no-one seen Julius Caesar, who lived 2000 years ago?"

- because he's dead

"why has no-one seen Jesus Christ, who lived 2000 years ago?

- because he's alive but we can't see him?  errrm, is there a problem here??


i'll stick with "not proven"   

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I don't know as I'd call 'leaning toward the fact that a sling can kill someone', progress.  If your testimony to him about Christ's wisdom and sacrifice do not give life to what is inscribed upon his heart, then the example of David's bravery in the face of his oppressor will be hard pressed to increase his understanding.  I sincerely hope that your friend comes to understand the comparatively small place such example holds in light of the many greater truths contained in the Holy Scriptures.

Afterall, anyone can take a life with a choice of myriad weapons.....though how many can return life to the dead and dying? 


At any rate, Blessings be upon you and your friend, in Yahshua, Jesus Christ


TS

Today people tend to underestimate the sling because they are used to weapons of - more or less - mass destruction (machine guns, missiles, bombs etc.) making them think that a weapon that doesn't kill 10 at once isn't lethal at all.

funda iucunda

Just one question TS. Where do you find the time to look up all this stuff?????Almost every time you post you have two or three new sites up for investigation.