Thanks Vicente
I've visited tirdefona.com  yesterday and it's a cool site with very nice info.  i realized i've made my last slings the way it shows on the how to make a sling instructions , though i don't understand some mallorquin words. My last slings are of nylon so they are not suitable for competition, but  personally i find nylon extreme wear resistant.
Feel free to send me the .pdf files in spanish,  i'll try to translate them into english  the best i can, it would be nice someone else could check  the translation cause i'm not a pro. and my english is more computer related. (my FCE teacher said i have an awful internet accent)

Appreciated David, 
 
I have been commenting with my colleagues in the federation the topic of the distance that how you comment about Mr. Larry Bray with a launching to more than 1400 feet, and that it seems to be this entered one in book Guiness. 

In this respect my colleagues they are as incredulous as me, we cannot understand how a person with a leather sling and throwing a stone of 2.5oz can  reach this distance, do you know what 1400 feet of distance are (more than 400 meters)??, is a lot of distance!   
 
As for sending them a video, I will look at the possibilities and I will already inform him, leave me some days to discover if it is possible

Greetings,
Vicente

Hola Foner,

Gracies per la benvinguda, espero participar activament en el fòrum, faig un gran esforç per a fer-lo en anglès, ja que no ho domino en absolut

I apologize for this paragraph written in my maternal language

Greetings,
Vicente


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Assume,  I must, that Vicente is craftily challenging one of us!   I agree with Jeff,  it is probable that their slinging style is a limiting factor.   I am sure that Vicente is cognizant of the stringent requirements for the Guiness book.  This awareness should, at least, allay a portion of his incredulity.  

Seriously,  the sling as a vehicle for the amplification, by dynamic leverage, of angular momentum in a ballistic delivery system...... is easily capable of doubling the range one can achieve unaided by use of one's throwing arm.  Given that many of us here can throw a rock the length of a football field,  two with a sling is easily achievable.  I am equally incredulous that your record in competition is only 600ft.  


Color me dumfounded.

Not sure you mean to use the word 'perverse'?   Are you referencing my 'Vasectomy' post?  Also,  I do not question at all the Balearian records.  Nowhere to my knowledge, have I at all expressed disbelief, nor intended such, in the figures expressed by Vicente.....I only question which causal factor(s) make their distances so....to be frank, short.   I can make no apology for my speech and try....(usually) to avoid obscure slang terms for the benefit of those who rely on language translation software.......although I tend to agree with Matthias.  As for your philosophy of not questioning other's statements in public....perhaps I can learn from you.  Although a very small slice of the general public gathered here for our purposes may be considered private enough to some devotees.   Nothing like open debate to stimulate one's self educative efforts.  

Considering that Vicente began by practically asserting that Chris' figures were outright lies by his direct inferences......I took it easy on him.  No where do I assert that it is 'practically impossible' for the balearians to reach 'only' 600ft.   It is just that I am puzzled that one of their own referees would think it unfathomable to reach our own recorded distances and speeds.   It is simply a difference in perspective expressed problematically.   I am sure that it was most likely a translational error and that Vicente was not really inferring that Chris was doctoring his figures by use of the term 'impossible'.    My lack of civility aside,  I still do find something quite amiss that my 12yr old son can sling within 100 feet of their record distance......Vicente, care to divulge the slinging style responsible for the record distance of 600ft?  

I have to admit,  I don't know how much is being garbled through the translator.....obviously enough to strain comprehensive limits.  

My apologies

Welcome/Bienvenido Vicente!!, finally we have a genuine Balearic slinger in the forum , where as you will see there are very qualified people on the diverse aspects of the sling: Among them two Guiness record of distance and maybe someone more in the future. In spite of my admiration and friendship by the Balearic slingers, I must recognize that the reputation of being the best slingers in the world that they had in ancient times seems to have been lost, although you continue having the title of being the first, and perhaps the only, cohesive group of excellent slingers of the world.
And indeed that distance record of yours has been surpassed widely throughout the years. Larry Bray, as has been said, has registered a range of about 435 meters with a stone of 52 grams and David Engeval, present Guiness, a reach of 477 meters with a special projectile of 62 grams. From my point of view the slings you use, of which I have a pair of them, are adapted for great stones, following the ancient Balearic tradition, and also the projectiles that you use are too heavy. A lighter projectile, sent by  a sling of thin cords and a small leather pouch, almost only as large as the projectile, has many advantages in front of your braided slings of sisal or esparto, with these splited pouches, too long to house a small projectile. Although I don´t know the exact characteristics of the sling and projectile of your champion of distance, and would be interesting to know it first to judge with better criterion.
But the fact is that even with heavy projectiles, Melvin Gaylor, Guiness of 1970, reached the distance 354 meters with a stone of 225 grams, surpassing widely your record.
And more on the subject, there are some interesting ethnologycal references about in our country, like this by Vicente Elías in his book "Sobre cultura pastoril", corresponding to the testimony of a shepherd of the region of "Els Ports de Morella", at the beginning of the XX century, in which he says that a skilful slinger could stop a escaping sheep to 400 or 500 meters. In spite of the vague quote, it reflects clearly that these distances could be reached by the expert shepherds.

En fin tío, que a mi también me parece imposible lanzar a esas distancias y yo nunca lo he conseguido, pero habrá que rendirse a la evidencia.
Bienvenido otra vez y me alegro de verdad que te quedes por el foro  .

Hondero (de la meseta castellana)

I understand the misunderstanding, Yurek.