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Reply #15 - Jun 29th, 2004 at 12:54pm
 
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So I borrowed a raquet ball and volley ball from the office in our little apartment gym and proceed to "Kill da wabbit" .


Does your raquetball court have windows?  Grin
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Reply #16 - Jun 29th, 2004 at 1:02pm
 
hehe, luckily no. Solid concrete all around, except for the door.
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Reply #17 - Aug 1st, 2004 at 2:27pm
 
Well we did it,

The other day my 11 year old son and I stopped by the driving range. I went up to the counter and said: " I'll bet nobody ever asked you to let them sling a bucket of golf balls?"  I showed him my slings and told him about some of you slinging golf balls 200-250 yards and that I wanted to try it. He said he was doubtful about slinging one that far, but said if we went to the far end and collected balls that were in the tall grass, we could sling for free since it would help him out.

We collected about 100 balls in 10 minutes and were ready to sling. As we walked by some people I held out my sling and anounced that I was going to try out my "new driver."

I had a 25 inch sling--braided cord of nylon with a 2 1/2' x 6" leather pouch and a 33" hemp braided cord with same size leather pouch.

I actually had the best distance using the shorter sling--probably due to the light weifgt golf ball and the extra drag of the longer sling cords.

They didn't have any markers beyond 200 yards. I am guessing that my longest shot may have been 250 and most of them at least 200yrds. My son was reaching 100yards.

I was using the overhand, no rotations style.

I think my arm needs a rest after throwing that many light weight  projectiles. I think I will make a very small pouch and try it again. I could almost feel the air drag on the pouch as I swung it around.
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Reply #18 - Aug 2nd, 2004 at 9:55pm
 
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    Loved your story. Did the guy come out to watch all this? Now if you can only get him to let you set up George the Roman at about 200 yds, things could get real interesting.


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Reply #19 - Aug 3rd, 2004 at 1:45am
 
Wow David, we've got to get you slinging some engineered ammo to validate some of the physics we've been tossing around. If you can get a golf ball out to 250 yds, a simple 7/8" lead sphere shoud net you at least 375, which is nothing to sneer at! Do you think that the driving range guys would let you sling some of your own glandes? (although I don't suppose that it is long enough...)

What sort of range to you get with your concrete tennis balls?

In fact, if anyone else wants to chip in with data (anecdotal or otherwise) for ranges with different projectiles given their personal slinging style, I'd be very interested to tablulate the results. Lookin more for differences rather than absolute distances.

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Reply #20 - Aug 3rd, 2004 at 10:05pm
 
The golf pro did watch a while, and like most people, he thought I could get more range by swinging the sling around real fast. I tried to explain but I don't think he caught on.

I did find that coming straight over my head and down as vertically as possible gave me the best range due to the back-spin it put on th e ball. They climbed as they went and were straight as an arrow. Using my long --33"--sling it was hard to come straight down with the follow through due to slapping the pouch on the ground. Any side arm motion put a lot of slice on the ball. --they curved to the right and greatly reduced the distance.

I have not slung any concrete tennis balls since last year. At that time, I was slinging them about 450 feet. I only paced them out so it is not a very accurate measurement. Hopefully, my arm is stronger now.

The concrete balls weighed out at 5.8 ounces. I really want to try making some lead glands.
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Reply #21 - Jun 30th, 2024 at 7:54pm
 
If you are doing Roman re-enactment golf balls are a good stand-in for Roman lead glandes. At least in weight.
Most Roman glandes Types I (lemon shaped) weigh about 2oz (57g) rarer Type II (acorn shaped) are slightly lighter at around 1.75oz (50g) even rarer type III whistling ones about 1oz (30g). A golf ball typically weighs between 1.62oz & 1.86oz (45.93g & 52.71g) so you are in the right are of weight if not density.
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Reply #22 - Jul 7th, 2024 at 1:11am
 
Dang Neil! You did some work digging up this old thread!
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Reply #23 - Jul 16th, 2024 at 10:26pm
 
By the Roman empire, there are no "professional slinger units" among the auxiliaries (but plenty of archer units). The slinging mentioned in narrative sources is presumably done by legionaries or auxiliaries in a skirmishing role (hence the training mentioned by Vegetius: hand-thrown stones and slinging), perhaps also using staff slings.

This is a debate that once raged in this forum, but fig-8 is not attested for the ancient world: ancient sources mention rotations above the head (Vegetius 2.23 recommends only one rotation):

Adsuescendum est etiam, ut semel tantum funda circa caput rotetur, cum ex ea emittitur saxum.


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