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Reply #15 - Apr 27th, 2006 at 5:56pm
 
well i was outside today and i cut my thumb when i became  a little overzealous while wharpening my knife.  i was glad that i had my first aid kit with me, as i had almost decided to leave it inside.  i didn't want to take my whole shoulder bag with me, so i just tossed a couple of things in a little fanny pack, nearly deciding to toss the med kit back with the felt bag. 

well anyways, it sure feels good to be prepared.  it was also a good test of my gear and my abilities, albiet a small one.

to put into my med kit: a small ziplock "snack" size bag, for the wrappers that come off of the band aids and alcohol pad.  i had to stick them in my pocket, which was a little wet at first.
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Reply #16 - Apr 27th, 2006 at 6:03pm
 
You can also keep your medical suplies in a plastic zipperbag. If your packaging is not really waterproof your supplies are degrading, a little layer of plastic improves it a lot.
And when needed, the plasic bag can be used as a trashbag too.

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Reply #17 - Apr 27th, 2006 at 6:09pm
 
i used to keep the stuff in a plastic bag, but then switched to the candy tin wrapped in a rubber band because it compressed all of the stuff, thus taking up  less space.
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Reply #18 - Apr 28th, 2006 at 2:34am
 
It might be better to put together a "What If" kit with supplies for a wider range of possibilities. What if I get cut, lost,caught in the rain, attacked by dropbears, etc. Wink
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Reply #19 - Apr 28th, 2006 at 3:39am
 
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You can also keep your medical suplies in a plastic zipperbag. If your packaging is not really waterproof your supplies are degrading, a little layer of plastic improves it a lot.
And when needed, the plasic bag can be used as a trashbag too.

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   Actually, Willeke, you are quite right about the plastic bags! One common brand is called "ziplock" bags ( available in various sizes ) and they do indeed seal with a sort of molded in zipper. I have been out in the rain on several occasions and I find that even if the rain does not soak all the way through my jacket, the contents of my pockets will tend to become damp. Thus a book of matches may become useless. We would usually carry our stuff in bags and even 3 or 4 extra bags as they are very lightweight and, as you point out, make good trash bags ( for candy bar wrappers, etc. )                                    .......Dan
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Reply #20 - Apr 28th, 2006 at 4:13am
 
  fi3l2,                                                                                       
     I'm not sure where you are located, but you should take into account your local conditions. As I said, the woods here in New England have a lot of debris on the forest floor: dead twigs and branches of all sizes, dead leaves and pine needles, dried grass and ferns, etc. Thus there is plenty of fuel for a fire, BUT, as I said, it is usually damp and hard to light. ( In fact, this spring has been unusually dry and we've had some brush fires. ) This may sound silly, but you really should PRACTICE your firemaking technique ( while observing all safety precautions. ) It took me several tries before I could reliably get a fire.                                                                
      Most of the guys around here, including me, carry matches, a good cigarette lighter ( not very primitive! ) but also, perhaps you are familiar with the magnesium firestarters. These work very well as the magnesium shavings provide a very hot ignition source. Highly recommended!                                                                               
     As for the water purification tablets, try googling POTABLE AQUA.
I have never actually tried them, and they apparently make water taste bad  Lips Sealed but they are not expensive and bad taste is not as bad as illness. We keep 3 or 4 packages with our emergency supplies here at the house. Another brand is REDI CHLOR.                         
     I generally use a small hip flask rather than a full canteen because around here if you can walk a straight line for one mile you will almost certainly come to a road. Whereas a friend of mine who hunts up in Maine tells me that he could walk a striaght line for FIVE mile before coming to a dirt road with no houses on it. Obviously, he carried a lot more water with him up there.                    .......Dan
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Reply #21 - Apr 28th, 2006 at 11:14am
 
in my area of northeastern pa, I also have a lot of debris in the woods. A supply of fire materials is always available.

I actually have used magnesium firestarters before and I plan on adding one to my kit.  I have practiced my firestarting capabilities before (even using a bow drill) and I know that even in slightly damp situations (which has been rare to not be able to find dry materials) i am capable of getting a good fire going. I love being a larger individual, my body weight really helps in starting those intial coals.

In the area where I go hiking and hunting, it is very possible for me to walk 2-3 miles in any direction and not get to a road. In conjunction, i usually carry 1/2 gallon if not more water on me.

Looking for water purification pills and stuff at the local and not so local outdoors suppliers next time i get up there.
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Reply #22 - Apr 28th, 2006 at 9:31pm
 
Haven't had a chance to read this whole thing, so I'm not sure if it's already been mentioned, but...
(Clorox) Bleach can be used to purify water. Call their questions/comments line for proper dosages. One small container of bleach may be far more valuable than half of a gallon of water.

I've heard of it on the web anyway....
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Reply #23 - Apr 28th, 2006 at 9:49pm
 
personally i will NOT drink anything that has ANY bleach in it  Lips Sealed call me a wuss Tongue i don't care Cheesy
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Reply #24 - Apr 28th, 2006 at 10:50pm
 
you know CanDo,that seems very familiar to me. I will definately call them up and see what doses.

Talki, I would imagine you definately eat much more harmful things (toxin buildup in food).

Its just the idea of "bleach".  In a survival situation, if that bleach will kill off anything harmful to me in the water that  I need to save my life, I will do it.

If they say its safe to purify water with bleach,I will definately keep a small liquid tight container in my kit.

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Reply #25 - Apr 28th, 2006 at 11:07pm
 
I hear moss is good for a little pure water. I think its also good for filtering water.
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Reply #26 - Apr 29th, 2006 at 1:38am
 
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personally i will NOT drink anything that has ANY bleach in it  Lips Sealed call me a wuss Tongue i don't care Cheesy

   Taiki,                                                                                    
     If you happen to drink some water that has NOT been treated with iodine or bleach and it is contaminated with beaver S@#$!  .......uh, I mean, ahem.......beaver "excrement".......then you will ingest the parasite Giardia Lamblia. You will then experience severe vomiting ( that is, you will "Puke your brains out!"  Lips Sealed Lips Sealed Lips Sealed ) and then you will have FLAMING DIARRHEA.  Shocked Shocked Shocked                         
                                                                                                  
      Well.......take your choice.                                     .......Dan
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Reply #27 - Apr 29th, 2006 at 3:40am
 
Taiki,
And do you know what they use to treat the water that you get from the tap?
We have had times that they used chlorine, is such doses that you did not want to drink the water without a strong tasting addition. (Like making it in coffee, tea was not strong enough.)
And drinking just softdrinks is not a way out either, first they often use tapwater to make them and next whatever water they use, they have to clean their tanks and the residu of that does come in the drinks. (Do you remember all the kids that got sick after drinking cola a few years back?

My emergengy kid is not as big as that of most.
round here you can not walk in a straight line for 3 km without running into a town of village.
But I do always carry a compass, some painkillers and plasters, a whistle and when traveling from home a knife.

It is my biggest frustration that in the situation that I might need the set most I am not alowed to bring half of what is needed.
The only real reason for me to have a real survival pack is in case of plane emergency landing in a far-off place. When traveling by plane you are not alowed anything usefull as a knife and the only accepteble substitute is glass that can be broken and sharpened. (If you look at the small print sharpened glass and non metal knifes are even worse to have as a normal knife.)
A lighter is alowed, but no powerfull one, nor the kind of set that is needed to make fire in any conditions.
I do own a flint and steel set, but I have never been able to light a fire with it, and will not trust on them as part of an emergency pack.

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Reply #28 - Apr 29th, 2006 at 4:23am
 
    Cheesy Willeke,                                                                        
            As I am writing this I am sipping on a really nice cup of Darjeeling tea sweetened with a mildly flavored honey which will not overpower the subtle overtones of the Darjeeling. This house was built in 1890. Even though much of the plumbing has been replaced, it is still old. Also, the city water here has a lot of minerals in it. The water is safe, but it tastes funny so we always filter it for drinking. Actually there are several Millipore type filtering devices on the market which can make even swamp water safe to drink, but they are not pocket sized ( although they will fit into a backpack.)                        
              Taiki, perhaps you would be happy with one of these filters. They can be expensive to buy, but remember the alternative: VOMITING AND DIARRHEA  Lips Sealed Shocked !                                           
                                                                               .......Dan       
                                                                                               
                                                                                                   
                                                                                                  
  Note: A Millipore filter is a ceramic filter that has pores ( holes ) that are so small the filter can even filter out viruses.
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Reply #29 - Apr 29th, 2006 at 4:31am
 
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      Please excuse the indelicate.......and, uh,even.......scatalogical.... line of this discussion. But, safe water is a major concern if one is lost
in the wilderness, and so I guess we are on topic even though we are talking about VOMITING AND DIARRHEA   Lips Sealed Shocked !           .......Dan
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