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Mike Descens Offline I am really Brainkrieg Posts: 164 ??? Gender:	Re: primitive elm longbow buidalong almost done no Reply #30 - May 6^th, 2006 at 8:51pm That's one sweet bow, Hellfire. I think I'll go over to your house and take it. You friend -Brainkrieg
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Douglas_The_Black Interfector Viris Spurii Offline Hakkaa päälle! Posts: 3491 Salineville Ohio Gender:	Re: primitive elm longbow buidalong almost done no Reply #31 - May 8^th, 2006 at 8:07pm what do you think? I dont know the weight yet but its pretty strong
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siguy Interfector Viris Spurii Offline si vis pacem para bellum Posts: 1714 connecticut Gender:	Re: primitive elm longbow buidalong almost done no Reply #32 - May 8^th, 2006 at 8:08pm looks good.
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Douglas_The_Black Interfector Viris Spurii Offline Hakkaa päälle! Posts: 3491 Salineville Ohio Gender:	Re: primitive elm longbow buidalong almost done no Reply #33 - May 8^th, 2006 at 8:10pm thanks..Think its slingworthey?
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siguy Interfector Viris Spurii Offline si vis pacem para bellum Posts: 1714 connecticut Gender:	Re: primitive elm longbow buidalong almost done no Reply #34 - May 8^th, 2006 at 8:20pm definately!
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CanDo Interfector Viris Spurii Past Moderator Offline Posts: 1652 New England, USA Gender:	Re: primitive elm longbow buidalong almost done no Reply #35 - May 8^th, 2006 at 8:27pm It certianly looks very cool What method are you using to draw it back?! Do you shoot with it like that (fingers on the left side of the string)? Have I been doing it wrong my whole life? Oh, and Hellfire, sorry about not being able to get those pics up. I've been wicked busy, hopefully soon.
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Re: primitive elm longbow buidalong almost done no
Reply #36 - May 8^th, 2006 at 8:56pm

I was always tought to draw two fingerd with my righthand drawing the string pointer and middle finger on the right hand side of the bow.

Im a horrid archer, maybe im doing it wrong Grin

My cross bow is makeing me mad..It shoots fine one day then the next (when i have a crowd to watch Roll Eyes

) it shoots like crap zinging clear off to the right Undecided

Maybe i could get a video up (found my camera dylan will never see it) and you guys could give me a suggestion of what's going wrong...

by the way where is ben? I dug that vest out of winter storage just for him Wink

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Reply #37 - May 13^th, 2006 at 5:54am

I don't want to alarm you or make you feel bad, but you have a possible hinge on the bottom limb, about a fist and a half below your hand. Check it out. Top limb looks fine, but the bottom limb is too weak, I think, and appears to have the hinge I mentioned.
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I was always tought to draw two fingerd with my righthand drawing the string pointer and middle finger on the right hand side of the bow.

Im a horrid archer, maybe im doing it wrong

My cross bow is makeing me mad..It shoots fine one day then the next (when i have a crowd to watch ) it shoots like crap zinging clear off to the right

Maybe i could get a video up (found my camera dylan will never see it) and you guys could give me a suggestion of what's going wrong...

by the way where is ben? I dug that vest out of winter storage just for him

I think the crossbow problem is easily solved. I expect, although I don't know, that you have been drawing the string from a little left of centre. Make sure that every time you draw a crossbow, you draw the exact centre of the string back to the notch, or else the bolt will veer off in one direction or another. Another problem could also be the seating of the bolt in the groove.

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Re: primitive elm longbow buidalong almost done no
Reply #38 - May 13^th, 2006 at 9:45pm

Oh i see that hinge any way to fix it? Maybe wrap some sinew around it or something.

but othere then that hows my tiller?

Well i try to draw and load the cross bow the same time each time but that could be my problem. There is a hump in the middle of my groove that makes the bolt sit unevenly but i drilled the hold for the strings that hold the bow way too close to the groove so i cant file that down any more Undecided

Im makeing a few new crossbows now that im starting to get OK at bowmakeing I have learned alot from my mistakes

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Re: primitive elm longbow buidalong almost done no
Reply #39 - May 14^th, 2006 at 6:17am

Try a crossbow with a slightly longer draw. The principles of bowmaking are easier to see in a longer bow.
I don't unfortunately see a way of fixing that hinge, unless you don't mind a very low-powered bow. Sorry. But at least you have learnt, and the rest of the tiller looks good. Try not to be gung-ho with the draw knife!
Anyway, good luck with it all.

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imhellfire Guest	Re: primitive elm longbow buidalong almost done no Reply #40 - May 14^th, 2006 at 8:11am DtB, I suggest you just make a new bow. Also you are drawing it backwards, make sure you rotate your wrist about 180 degrees from where is presently is and shoot split finger draw. You can use two fingers but Iwould suggest you use three. Good luck.
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Douglas_The_Black Interfector Viris Spurii Offline Hakkaa päälle! Posts: 3491 Salineville Ohio Gender:	Re: primitive elm longbow buidalong almost done no Reply #41 - May 14^th, 2006 at 9:59am I tryed useing three but i never had any luck with it Ill need some more wood to make a new bow, fortunetly i found a place to cut lots of locust nows a bad time to cut right? oh well it will just take longer to dry
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Reply #42 - May 15^th, 2006 at 5:07pm

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I tryed useing three but i never had any luck with it Undecided

Ill need some more wood to make a new bow, fortunetly i found a place to cut lots of locust Grin

nows a bad time to cut right? oh well it will just take longer to dry

I suggest getting into the habit of shooting with two or three fingers, and the right way. Any other way would likely lead to inconsistant shooting. Maybe all you need is a finger tab.

You can cut any bow wood on earth, at any time of the year. I have no idea where the dumb rumor started where (presumably) the Indians "knew" that wood was best cut in the winter. This is all crap. The only thing alive in a tree is the inner bark. That is all. All of the wood inside of the tree is dead, and as long as you cut only live wood you should be ok.

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Re: primitive elm longbow buidalong almost done no
Reply #43 - May 15^th, 2006 at 8:01pm

Hmmm ... guys, I just had a look through this thread, and I thought about how Douglas_the_Black holds his bow, and I think I have a reasonable reason for holding your hand backward like that.

If you hold your string hand with palm toward your face, and if you have a moustache, there is a chance, however slim, that you will rip said facial hair off when you release...

If you hold the string as DTB does, the back of your hand is against your face and you won't have that problem.

So much for thought experiments, I'm going to have to dig out a bow and see if there is any other advantage to DTB's way.

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Re: primitive elm longbow buidalong almost done no
Reply #44 - May 17^th, 2006 at 3:26pm

It looks actually like he's drawing the bow normally. I think the way the photo has been shot, and the lighting, that make it looks different. I could be wrong.
I don't think there is any advantage to drawing in that way. The muscles and bones that you rely on would be unnaturally twisted, and I'm sure it could get quite painful. There are also no accounts of that style being used anywhere.

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