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Mar 17th, 2006 at 9:02pm
 
i have read little bits of info here and there that say these oils are good for waterproofing, but i would like some more defintite information.  what oil wouild be best for waterproofing a wool blanket for camping/emergency shelter construction?  what would be best for my cloak of cotton fabric?  how well do these actualy work?
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Reply #1 - Mar 18th, 2006 at 9:51am
 
what would be used historicaly?
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Reply #2 - Mar 18th, 2006 at 10:03am
 
Why use the historical correct oil that is not really waterproof when modern replacements work better?

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Reply #3 - Mar 18th, 2006 at 10:20am
 
I dont know i just enjoying doing the things that where done before Smiley
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Reply #4 - Mar 18th, 2006 at 1:06pm
 
I like knowing both methods. So I can't get stuck in any situation. Grin
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Reply #5 - Mar 18th, 2006 at 5:56pm
 
i like using the old methods, in this case linseed oil because it is easier for me to procure it, and probably cheaper than modern alternatives.  also, i want to retain the flexibility and softness of the fabric.  does anyone know if something like silicone spray would be able to preserve the flexibilty of fabric while providing superior moisture protection?
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Reply #6 - Mar 18th, 2006 at 10:57pm
 
i'm for whatevers cheapest. I usually use modern methods just to get a working model, then try another the way it was done.
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Reply #7 - Mar 19th, 2006 at 2:58am
 
Are you asking what kind of oil you can use to treat fabric, like a cloak?

Originally wool had lanolin oil and was a natural part of the fabric even after it was woven. It provided a degree of water repelency. Modern wools have  the oils all washed out. In our experience, we have not been able to treat wool with an oil to make it like a hand spun, warp-weighted loom woven cloak could have been. In other words, "putting the oil back in" has been unsuccessful.

Best bet is to use Scotchguard. It will need to be reapplied once in a while. The sun will break it down along with repeated wear.

For cotton? I dunno. The is duck canvas out there aleady treated, but kinda heavy and stiff.
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Reply #8 - Mar 19th, 2006 at 5:01am
 
Which reminds me about a handspun sweater I used to have when I was still living with my parents.
It staid nice and smelling like sheep for a long time. But my mother insisted on washing it till it smelled like detergent. It was much less nice to wear then.

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   Wool will remain warm, even if it's soaking wet, so if that's your concern, dont worry about it. ( It will be quite heavy, though).
  Scotchguard is good for waterproofing wool, but there is a down side to it. If your using it as a blanket, you really don't want it totally waterproof. It has to "breathe." What happens is that as you sleep, you shed moisture. If your blanket is so waterproof, that it can't go anywhere, it stays where it is, and you get wet.
  Scotchguard can also be used on cotton, but for my money, I would go with Thompson's Water Seal. the stuff is great, and it comes in a spray on version. Just re-apply as needed. However, any waterproofer is flammable, so be careful.
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Reply #10 - Mar 24th, 2006 at 6:33pm
 
i would probably only proof one side(if that's at all possible) and i would not wrap it tightly around my body in most cases.  also, does this water proofing hold the fibers together so they won't get little snags in the weave if the fabric catches on twigs or bits of bark or anything?  also, will the fabric still feal soft?
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Reply #11 - Mar 24th, 2006 at 6:58pm
 
I would use the Scotchguard the fabric will remain pliable.  Oils will eventually dry or not and will be stiff or sticky and heavy, plus theres the whole self igniting issues with the linseed oil on a rag.  The best thing you can do is buy an emergency blanket or two, its a whole lot cheaper than any thing else mentioned above.
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Reply #12 - Mar 24th, 2006 at 7:00pm
 
what sort of stuff are these emergency blankets make of?  not those tinfoil things are they?  those are horrible.
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Reply #13 - Mar 24th, 2006 at 7:08pm
 
Horrible but will save your life if needed.  What are you exactly looking for and what are you wanting it to do?
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Reply #14 - Mar 24th, 2006 at 7:25pm
 
i just want a good, real life working claok.  nothing fancy, really, just something i can curl up in for the night in the woods, like if i don't want to take tent for a walk in the woods or something.
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