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bigkahuna past-moderator Offline Posts: 3894 Delaware, USA Gender:	Re: Egyptian sling Reply #15 - Aug 26^th, 2006 at 10:19pm Outstanding!!!! Really nice job on the sling.
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Rebel Junior Member Offline I love Slinging.org! Posts: 71 Norway Gender:	Re: Egyptian sling Reply #16 - Aug 27^th, 2006 at 6:58am Really nice sling . I dont think I can make a sling that is this complicated I can make braided slings, but this type of sling looks way to complicated.
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Re: Egyptian sling
Reply #17 - Aug 31^st, 2006 at 3:09pm

Rebel,

the plaiting work was really difficult. But don't panic!

A great and nearly indispensable help for me was Ashley’s Book of Knots. There I found the necessary explanations of knots and plaits Burgess took for granted. I’ve a German translation of the American edition of 1944 which contains the original drawings of the knots with their numbers. Here they are:

the 5 string plait for the small loop where the cord is to be passed through for making the retention loop (Ashley no. 2983) which is originally a 7 string plait that I took as model and changed it into a 5 string plait by reducing the 4 strings on the left side to 3 and accordingly on the right side from 3 to 2,

the 9 string plait (Ashley no. 2985) which forms the beautiful ear of corn plait Burgess describes,

the 10 strings plait for both cords (Ashley no. 3010).

The pouch I wove on a frame similar to the one Burgess used. The figure of eight weave he mentions is relatively simple. The strings of the cords are split into two and form the warp. One of them is going up and the other down. But they do not only cross each others way on the level of the weft, but are as well twisted around each other like a rope.

If something does not work open the plait and start again. Once you will succeed. Just go for it!

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Re: Egyptian sling
Reply #18 - Aug 31^st, 2006 at 3:40pm

funda iucunda,
Your sling looks good.

But I wonder why you used the frame Burgess discribed.
Looking at the sling, and its papers, both a weaver friend and I reacted that there is an easier way.

Our idea is, start with the fingerloop as you have done now, but with threads long enough for both cords.
Braid as you have done till the start of the pouch, transfer your threads onto a simple small loom, a backstrap-loom or start a tablet weave for the pouch, add as many threads as you need to get the width of the pouch, in the second half of the pouch you take those threads away, maybe by using them in the weft.
At the end of the pouch you start braiding again till the end of the cord.

I would add the extra threads just inside the weave, not on the outher edge, and take them away on the same point.

I want to make a sling this way, but can not find the needed time. I even have the materials I need......

Willeke

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SlingWolf Senior Member Offline Guns dont kill people... Magic missles do! Posts: 362 Kenmore, NY Gender:	Re: Egyptian sling Reply #19 - Aug 31^st, 2006 at 11:53pm Wow, that thing is great!
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Rebel Junior Member Offline I love Slinging.org! Posts: 71 Norway Gender:	Re: Egyptian sling Reply #20 - Sep 1^st, 2006 at 9:43am Hello funda_iucunda. Thanks for the encouraging. I will try and make a sling like yours when I got the time to do so. Rune -The Reb-
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Re: Egyptian sling
Reply #21 - Sep 3^rd, 2006 at 3:54pm

Willeke,

many thanks for this hint. May be that tablet weaving is the clue. As I read somewhere tablet weaving has been invented by the ancient Egyptians 4,500 years ago and that tey reached a high standard. So this technique is very likely to be used for sling pouches.
I do not have experience with tablet weaving. Is it possible to weave a pouch with tablets without the pouch being rolled up like a drying leave? I fear that the strands of the cord forming the weft would tend to go straight down. So it might be necessary to use Burgess' frame in order to keep the pouch plain and in shape.

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Re: Egyptian sling
Reply #22 - Sep 3^rd, 2006 at 4:20pm

Take a look on the web for some back strap looms and tablet weaving, it is real simple to use both, and they combine very good.

With tablet weaving the strings do stay neatly in a horizontal row, and when you use a simple loom or a backstrap loom you can adjust tension as needed.

The frame seems alien to the kind of weaving they had then.

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joshskijam Junior Member Offline Quando Omni Flunkus Moratati! Posts: 74 NY Gender:	Re: Egyptian sling Reply #23 - Mar 14^th, 2008 at 6:37pm I would like to make one of these, but I still haven't been able to find anything that would explain it to me. Does somebody have that article mentioned?
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Monkeywjcr Junior Member Offline Beware of flying rocks. Posts: 75 Front Royal VA Gender:	Re: Egyptian sling Reply #24 - Mar 15^th, 2008 at 8:12pm Can some one post a picture that I can copy off of?
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funda_iucunda Senior Member Offline Watt den een sin Uhl is den annern sin Nachtigal. Posts: 317 Germany (north of Hamburg) Gender:	Re: Egyptian sling Reply #25 - Mar 19^th, 2008 at 9:49am Someone cancelled my pictures! funda
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Matthias Past Moderator Offline Posts: 1418 Gatineau/Ottawa QC, Canada Gender:	Re: Egyptian sling Reply #26 - Mar 19^th, 2008 at 12:40pm I think we just broke the links in the last forum upgrade. I'll find them and edit the post, and if that doesn't work I have backups.... I wonder how many threads this is going to have affected? Matthias
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Curious Aardvark Forum Moderation Offline Taller than the average Dwarf Posts: 13965 Midlands England Gender:	Re: Egyptian sling Reply #27 - Mar 22^nd, 2008 at 12:23pm lol - Matthias strikes again :-) He does mean well ;-) But yeah I'd like to see the pics as well.
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funda_iucunda Senior Member Offline Watt den een sin Uhl is den annern sin Nachtigal. Posts: 317 Germany (north of Hamburg) Gender:	Re: Egyptian sling Reply #28 - Mar 24^th, 2008 at 5:11pm When the pictures are finally lost I can try to send those I still have or make new. At the moment I am weaving a new sling in the same manner. Its just a question of time when I will be ready to post its fotos. funda
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Re: Egyptian sling
Reply #29 - Apr 8^th, 2008 at 12:56am

I think I have them on my harddrive as well. I am pretty much a pic junkie when it comes to slings.

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funda_iucunda wrote on Mar 24^th, 2008 at 5:11pm:

When the pictures are finally lost I can try to send those I still have or make new. At the moment I am weaving a new sling in the same manner. Its just a question of time Roll Eyes

when I will be ready to post its fotos.

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