Bigkahuna,

You can have my skull if I die before you.  Edward Teach was my 12th great grand uncle (I come from the legitimate side of the family...through his brother who was a lawyer and his father a Baron).  And if you look at the names in regard to pronunciation, everyone today pronounces "teach" like teach in teacher.  I am of the opinion that the original pronunciation was more in lines with "theack" with the "h" being like the "h" in "huh."  The original records are full with various spellings, and they wrote it down like it sounded when the author heard the name...hence we get teach, tack, thach, thack, etc. etc. etc.  What is the basis on the Drummond claim?  I have heard that argument before that his name was Drummond, but even the modern Drummonds haven't formed a geneaological connection.  Most likely it was an alias if anything at all. 

Cheers,
Adam C.

P.S.  I'll post my lineage back to Blackbeard if you really want it, otherwise I'm not going to take up board space on a discussion group about slinging (off topic or not). 

P.P.S.  I also do early 18th century maritime living history...go figure....

Bigkahuna,

I didn't actually find the lineage myself.  My Grandmother was big in geneaology before she died, and used to brag about how we had no black sheep in the family....until she found blackbeard.  Anyway, the best I can do is pass on what she told me.  

Baron Owen Theach (sometimes spelled Teach or Thatch) of Wales had two sons, John and Edward.   Edward eventually becoming Edward "black beard" Theach (Teach, Thatch, Thach, etc.) the pirate.  John was a lawyer and led a good life, eventually immigrating to North Carolina.  John married a Mrs. Elizabeth Weeks.  Their Daughter, Elizabeth Theach, married Willoughby Adams.  Their daughter, also named Elizabeth Theach, married Baron John Davis (also from Wales).  Their daughter Cecelia Davis, married a man by the name of Pope (We don't know his first name, but it might have been Clinton).  They had a son who was named Owen Clinton Pope, who then married Sarah Singuefield. Cecelia and Pope also had a daughter, Mary Wilde Pope, who married a man by the name of Ephraim Jordan.  Mary and Ephraim had a daughter by the name of Martha Elizabeth Jordan, who eventually married Thomas Turlington.  Their daughter Sally Mae Turlington married William Bailey Greene.  Sally and William had a daughter, Martha Sue Greene, who eventually married John Charles Cripps.  Martha and John had a son whom they also named John Charles Cripps, who eventually married Diane Johnson.  John and Diane had.....me....

So, there it is according to what my Grandmother gave my Dad and I before she died.  She only gave me the names of the children that continued our line, and so not all the children from each union was included.  Our family tree takes up a whole wall in a room without the addition of the other siblings branching off.  

As for NQG, I wouldn't call it "historical" as it's mostly the hollywood pirate variety, but sure, what the heck.  If you want to do it, be my guest.  Put a plug in for my Maritime reenactment group while you're at it.  

Cheers,
Adam C.

Bigkahuna,

We're a mess in the HMS Squirrel Living History Association called "The Fish-Broth Society."  Our main focus is the accurate portrayal of seaman (everything from Merchant and Fisherman through Royal Navy) from 1700-1739.  We do F&I with the rest of the Squirrel sometimes, and you can usually find us doing naval at some RevWar events (like we'll be participating in Williamsburg again this coming June) also.  

I'd like to get a copy of the write up if they decide to use it.  I'm trying to go back and find the records that my Grandmother had found, but I fear that some of them might have been lost since she found the connection.  

Cheers,
Adam

Bigkahuna,

If I remember correctly, he was writing back in the 60s?  I have my copy somewhere around here, just I need to get to bed right now. 

I wouldn't go as far as to say the lineage is proven, as I'm basing it off the family tree my grandmother developed, so I would classify it as a secondary source (heck, I work as an archivist...I always have to classify things stringently...).  I have had to suspend the search due to everyday life now, but as I mentioned, I'm trying to go back and find the records my Grandmother found. Anyway, I need to head below decks and climb in my hammock....

Cheers,
Adam C.

Bigkahuna,

I haven't been able to find anything online, myself.  This is why I'm probably going to have to hit the archives in Wales (if they have one...if not, most records are probably in Britain).  Were you looking at Welsh barons on the system or English?  This is one of the reasons I'm trying to go back and find the actual letters and get pictures (digital, of course) of me holding them....

I have no reason to doubt the connection my Grandmother made, as she was very proud of having no black sheep in the family, and it shocked her pretty bad (according to my Dad...I wasn't alive yet) when she found the connection.  Like I said in my last post, I tend to be a hard_ss when it comes to documentation as that's my field of expertise, which is why I said I'd classify what my Grandmother gave us as a secondary source until I can try and get documents myself.  It would be interesting if he wasn't in my family tree, as that would make my family just appear out of nowhere in the middle of the 18th century.  Good times.


Cheers,
Adam

Bigkahuna,

I really don't know what to tell you, as I'm still on the hunt to validate this lineage myself.  In fact, at lunch today I was discussing the lineage with my Dad, only to find out that my Grandmother had gotten it from a letter sent to her from a great-aunt who found out that she was into geneaology.  I have no clue where the great aunt got her information, but seeing as it was so long ago, it could be that some of it is lost.  Either way, I'm not claiming the lineage is valid, but that's how it has always been on the family tree.

Cheers,
Adam C.

I missed that

Tonight at 10 eastern time theres a show called "black beards mystery ship" on the history channel. just thought I'd let you know.