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Jan 1st, 2006 at 4:24am
 
Hello all, I am new, I have lurked for a few days, and am finding slinging to be a fun sport. But to the topic:

I am putting together a survival/primitive camping backpack, and want to know which blanket to get, I have narrowed down my choices to either this:

http://www.galleria-e.com/cgi-bin/Colemans.storefront/en/Product/303101

or this:

http://www.armysurplusworld.com/product.asp?ProductID=10121

I am edging towards the wool, lighweight, warm (when wet too, plus I like wool Cheesy) and if it works for the army, it should work for me. A test trip I intend to take will have temps in the low 'teens at night, and I wonder if it will actually keep me warm in combination with a glightish jacket.

If you deem neither blanket suitable, would you kindly point me to some blankets that would be, and are still lightweight (excluding sapce blankets, those are out of the question.)
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Reply #1 - Jan 1st, 2006 at 8:30am
 
Hello jellywerker,
Welcome to the site.

When you say low teen, do you talk F or C, in other words, do you talk cool or freezing. That does make a big difference.

The coleman site blanket gives in their descripsion that you need a few for camping. The army surplus site is not as generus with information, but my own experience with ex army blankets, (European) and like woolen blankets, is that they are a nice extra, but not survival gear.

If you go camping in below freezing temps look for a good sleepingbag or at least a modern blanket designed for that kind of temps.
I do not know what a glightish jacket is, I asume it covers you warmly on the upper body, but remember that you legs are going to loose a lot of heat if not properly covered.
Also look into bedding, either natural or modern, small and lightweight, that can save you in freezing temps or make a misserable night into a nightmare if done wrong.

Success with the experiment and enjoy the trip.

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Reply #2 - Jan 1st, 2006 at 9:19am
 
He proably means usa temps. The first link i have that blanket. It is not very good. It is made for inside a building on a cot. Not out side. If you get a good deal on it well it is fine for a pillow or a ground spread. The other blanket might work. You would proably be better off buy a sleeping bag though.
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Reply #3 - Jan 1st, 2006 at 10:17am
 
I'm interested in a blanket as opposed to a sleeping bag for two reasons . One is cost and the other is weight and ease of rolling it up tight . What are your plans for a shelter ? I've camped out for many years using only a sheet of plastic and using dry branches and twine for a "tent" . I use the space blankets only for my super lightweight pack for one nighters only . I'm interested in your final choice . See the thread survival backpack and the sling . I assume you'll have a sling . Another gentleman on this site carried a bow and arrow kit in his pack which I admired . He said he carried broadheads and a string and fabricated the rest out in the woods . I'm going to assemble a "kit" like his .

Wool is supposed to be warm even if wet . That would settle my choice quick . Smiley
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Reply #4 - Jan 1st, 2006 at 10:55am
 
wool is pretty cool. it whicks away water from the skin. now you cant sleep out in the rain, but for a little water wool is good. Its warm too. I have wool cloak and its warmer then most of my coats Smiley
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Reply #5 - Jan 1st, 2006 at 11:22am
 
Wool has long been the choise for outdoor activities in temperate climates. But it has been outclased by manmade fibres in recent years. Most minus freezing sleepingbags nowadays pack smaller than a woolen blanket and are as waterresistant.
In cold climates wool was always used next to fur, because that is much more windproof, and that in itself keeps you better warm.
A (modern) fleece layer with a wind and waterproof outer layer are warmer than wool ever can produce.

If you go for authentic, and above freezing, go for wool.
If you go for below freezing add or replace by modern stuff.
For sleeping a mummy style sleepingbag with the hoodpart closed is the best, I should say only option if you want to pack compact. But fit the sleepingbag in a shop, it should be snug but not tight (when you are at your full growt).

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Reply #6 - Jan 1st, 2006 at 12:44pm
 
Willeke: glightish was a typo, I meant lightish. I am speaking in fahrenheit, I wwasn't thinking about the global members of this board, I'll not be so careless next time Cheesy Also, could you kindly point me to one of those subzero sleeping bags you are talking about?

Fritz: Shelter will be whatever I can make, something along the lines of what you have said, trap+branches+leaves+pine boughs. Also, no sling or bow, they would be useless weight, unless I take them to practice with. I am not good enough for a sling to be of any practical value to me in a survival bag, maybe somdey Cheesy but not now. I have read that thread (part of what sparked me on this.) and I plan to include a breakdown .22 rifle (the henry survival rifle, a few friends have them and say they are great, waterproof case, light, shoot straight, etc...) for (in the "survival" part of the bag's use) hunting rabbits and other small game.
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Reply #7 - Jan 1st, 2006 at 12:45pm
 
If you can find them, nothing beats a couple of Hudson's Bay wool blankets. They have kept fur trappers and explorers warm for 400 years. I would go with older ones ( 1900). They are thicker and more durable. I use two for Klondike camping, and am toasty.
  Whitney blankets are also good, but not quite as warm.  James Townsend and son sells them. They are worth the investment, especially if you plan on doing this for a long time.
  Aslo, remeber to have a good hat on . You lose 90 percent of your heat out of your head.
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Reply #8 - Jan 1st, 2006 at 12:54pm
 
Well, the price is a bit out of my range I think, and finding 1900's ones could bee challenging. I'll wait and see what Willeke says.
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Reply #9 - Jan 1st, 2006 at 1:06pm
 
Thanks , now I'll add a hat to my pack Cheesy

A sling only weighs at most a couple of ounces  Undecided
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Reply #10 - Jan 1st, 2006 at 1:10pm
 
But it wouldn't do me any good unless the rabbits are attacking en masse :/ In which case I could just run around stomping on a few and taking them.

Edit: A blogun perhaps though, I am not bad with them. Say a 26 incher with a few darts, perhaps tipped with a knockout drug oo similar.
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Reply #11 - Jan 1st, 2006 at 1:14pm
 
I do not keep up with the new developements, so better go to a site where they compare sleepingbags.

The brands are likely different in the usa anyhow.

Using one of those sites will give you comments of users too.

And remember that your reflexes like feeling cold do not work when too cold and that can be deadly.

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Reply #12 - Jan 1st, 2006 at 1:19pm
 
perhaps this?

http://www.dealtime.com/xPC-Black_Pine_Sports_10_Blackstar_Mummy_Bag

About the same weight as a wool blanket, but I wonder how small it can be rolled.
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Reply #13 - Jan 1st, 2006 at 1:30pm
 
This is one of the sites I wanted to show you.
http://comparestoreprices.co.uk/compare-prices/sleepingbags
click on the sleepingbag name and see the user reports.

Do not trust them if you see no negative reports too.

If you want more sites, google on 'compare sleeping bags' (without ' )

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Reply #14 - Jan 1st, 2006 at 2:01pm
 
Methinks a vango bag then, they have good reviews, seem to have good quality, and are rather light.
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