if u put vinegar in a lead contaner for a while it will become poisenous

I dunno if this is a poison but I put mushed up plaintain in an airtight container (for a poultice) and a month later I open it up and it smells horrible! Almost puked  ! Didn't know some herbs could smell so bad.

for the record I don't agree with the direction this particular topic is going in.
Yes there are toxic plants out there in your particular neck of the woods but you are far better off in finding them by yourself rather than asking a very public mailing list about thier use.

I'm going to go through this thread and try and prevent you guys from repeating some commonly held myths out there.

The first one is on route of entry, just becuase a agent is toxic when injested does not mean it is toxic when injected.

Marc Adkins
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Thanks or the concern. I was never thinking of using the knowledge, but was just interested. Kind of like how we make primitive weapons, but many never intend on using them for their main purpose.

Dan,
a poultice, according the dictionary: A soft, moist, usu. heated mass of material applied to the skin to alleviate pain, inflammation, or irritation, to act as an emollient, or to stimulate the circulation locally; a fomentation, a cataplasm.

And tobacco is a poison in more ways.
When you make 'tea' of tobacco it is one of the strongest poisons now used in gardens, much stronger than available in the shops nowadays.
And if you drop the butts of sigarets in a little water and leave them overnight, pray that your todler when it find the cup the next day does not decide to take a taste, because a journey to the hospital is the least you can expect.
I do not remember how much tobacco it takes to kill that way, but little children can not stand a lot.

Willeke

nicotine (the main active ingredient in tobacco) in high doses is extremely toxic.
It's been used as a poison on at least one detective program on telly (can't remember which one but it was quite good).

A poultice is a dressing - usually for wounds. You take your plant or plants and generally mash them up and then apply them to the affected area. If in the wild you can use a large leaft and some small vines to lash it in place. It gives you topical slow release of whatever the active ingredient(s) are.
Poultices of willow bark are quite common in primitive cultures (active ingredient = salicylic acid = aspirin)

For those who just read the last page of a recent post I'll reiterate. Unless you are well schooled in clean laboratory techniques and have a working chemical and hygiene knowledge - do not attempt to make any toxins. You wll invariably end up poisoning yourself or members of your family.

Poisons should not be idly messed with.
nuff said

Actually if one were to make a tea from tobacco, then boil it down slowly to create a tar it would cause a nicotine overdose if it were delivered to a bipeds system.

there's plenty of venom in snakes, if you can catch them though