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Douglas_The_Black Interfector Viris Spurii Offline Hakkaa päälle! Posts: 3491 Salineville Ohio Gender:	Re: primitive incederarys and explosives Reply #120 - Nov 9^th, 2005 at 4:59pm i would think that if you could contain the incedirary then it would explode. Like make primitve gunpowder, and place it in a tightly sealed clay pot.
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bigkahuna past-moderator Offline Posts: 3894 Delaware, USA Gender:	Re: primitive incederarys and explosives Reply #121 - Nov 10^th, 2005 at 2:16am Last words of young man who plays with homemade explosives " Hay everybody! Watch this!"
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Re: primitive incederarys and explosives
Reply #122 - Nov 10^th, 2005 at 12:49pm

I remeber one boy who told me that he can spit fire. I knew that he is a well... a bit dumb to put it mildly, so I told him to stop boasting and get lost. After that, he put a shot of 80 percent alcohol in his mouth and ignited his Zippo. I shouted at him to stop and tried to grab the lighter, but he was too far away(three meters) and spat sooner that I can get to him. The experiment proved that he in fact can spit fire, but penalties were harsh. His Zippo hand was badly burned as well as his mouth and part of windpipe(he yelled from pain when flame hit his hand and breathed some hot fumes and flame). He made it out alive, though. Always stand near a pool while trying to spit fire, kids.

Fresh bamboo explodes when thrown in fire, but it is more for effect than anything else. Primitive gunpowder in clay vase will be enough, but remember that a supersonic sharp piece of fire-hardened clay is just as nasty as supersonic sharp piece of metal when flying round your head, so keep your distance - as Zero, famous man in certain community, once said about piece of seltzer cartridge shrapnel: Note that having this flying at your head at fantastic velocity is not good. Cheesy

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Re: primitive incederarys and explosives
Reply #123 - Nov 10^th, 2005 at 6:46pm

Hey stenny, I too read all that you typed in that post and agree with it all.

I used pitch for the first time this weekend. Was very cool. I tried to melt it down to clean it out. And it caught on fire. It burns just fine with dirt in it.

Though it did burn better in liquid form and clean.
Anyone know what tempeture pitch has to be to ignite?

I haven't read all the post in this topic so my apologies if this has been asked already. But did anyone see the Batman Begins movie?What was the powder that the ninja leader used? He would throw it and it would explode on impact. Is this real stuff? Not planning on making anything like that 'till I have much more experiance and know more about chemistry, but it would make for interesting research.

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ben_banned Interfector Viris Spurii Offline Posts: 1272 Gender:	Re: primitive incederarys and explosives Reply #124 - Nov 10^th, 2005 at 7:03pm sounds like flash bang powder but I have not seen the movie
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bigkahuna past-moderator Offline Posts: 3894 Delaware, USA Gender:	Re: primitive incederarys and explosives Reply #125 - Nov 10^th, 2005 at 9:06pm Potaasium permaganate and phosphorus works like that when thrown against something. Not too stable though and VERY HOT!
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Re: primitive incederarys and explosives
Reply #126 - Nov 11^th, 2005 at 11:06am

Both of these are unstable and mixing them is dangerous. Frankly, powders that explode when thrown are little too dangerous for most real-life applications, but they do exist. Most of them include either chlorate or phosphorous(or both if it is made by some twisted person wanting to clean gene pool of all pyros) and are prone to exploding in mixing process. Refer to Fireworks like granddads used to make for further information. But if your qustion is if it is possible, then very well yes. I have not seen the movie, though.

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Fritz_the_Cat Senior Member Offline Eat Danish cheese Posts: 431 Detroit Michigan USA Gender:	Re: primitive incederarys and explosives Reply #127 - Nov 11^th, 2005 at 1:39pm You guys sound dangerous but fun loving I stick to rotten eggs. I buy my pitch from an optical supply house . The pure stuff cost more . Its used for polishing lens and mirrors with cerium oxide. In case someone doesn't have a supply of pine trees around.
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Re: primitive incederarys and explosives
Reply #128 - Nov 11^th, 2005 at 1:45pm

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So Billy, let me tell you this:
Pipe bombs are illegal.
Lighting tennis balls full of gasoline is NOT to be done anywhere near any person that is dumb enough to kick this pocket inferno at you and you should do it yet farther away from any cars or property which does not belong to you. You can burn your car to the ground and nobody would care, but endangering other people by mere ignorance is showing that you should stay away from these things as you will blow yourself up soon probably.
Igniting pipe bombs near people is bad and generally frowned upon by most legislatives.
Pipe bomb that fly after ignition is not strong, but it is a sign that the explosive inside it was poorly made and slow burning.
Anyone know that by lighting the aerosol jet from any can marked as "(Highly) Flammable" makes for a nice spray of fire until flame burns the nozzle away and causes a explosion that will shatter the can in your hand, leaving you severely burned, missing a hand and blinded by high-temperature expanding gasses and flying fragments.
Breaking any pressurized container marked by "Do not try to open this as it will explode in the proccess", as they are usually marked like this, is foolish.
Things like "Oh yeah, I made a fireball which almost set me on fire and pipebomb which almost injured several innocent bystanders" are unwelcomed by many people belonging to this forum as far as I know.
Four post in a row are unnecessary as you can use edit button.
If you have read previous post, then you know that I am also interested in pyrochemistry and that I play with a fire(and not only fire) pretty much and for long. I have had several accidents, but they were all caused by unpredicable circumstances and not by my foolishness. Also, I sport all twenty fingers and my scars are not caused by pyrotechnic. I have never injured anybody else, letting alone someone unconcerned. One thing you should remember:
Making pyrotechnics, incendiaries, destructive devices and related things can be fun, but it is DEADLY SERIOUS bussiness. I know it. In this hobby, second chances are not given. Unless you are really very carefull, you are looking at mangling or killing yourself or someone else in a short period of time. Either grow up or quit this hobby.

Who actually read this to the very end?

I read the whole thing . How do you hold anything with no thumbs ? Cheesy

Just kidding ..

Seriously , I think your post is great and needfull . Thats why I suggest rotten eggs . But then someone could get injured there to . I witnessed a young girl getting minor cuts on her exposed leg from a thrown egg Lips Sealed

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Re: primitive incederarys and explosives
Reply #129 - Nov 12^th, 2005 at 4:18pm

No thumbs? What? I have four thumbs, one on each hand and one on each leg. I am afraid I did not catch the joke...
Imagine ancient chinese master armed with a rotten egg... Now that would be awesome: Flying rotten egg of death.
Yeah, I should go and try to have some sleep before my REALLY intelligent ideas will start to appear Embarrassed

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Re: primitive incederarys and explosives
Reply #130 - Nov 13^th, 2005 at 10:12am

You make thing explode by throwing them at things by including shock sensitive detonators. Actually for this purpose most domestic caps will ignite gunpowder.

The only tricky bit is carrying them around without jarring them. This is probably why ninjas carry them it's all that soft walking training they do.

But seriously little gadgets you throw and go flash or bang - very easy to make. In fact for all your non finger loving fools. Try red roll caps as your detonators and finely shaved matches as your 'explosive'.
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Have fun and probably best to wear asbestos underwear if you intend to put them in your pocket.

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