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Jul 3rd, 2004 at 12:45pm
 
Does anyone think I sling would be of some use to use as a grenade launcher, it's much more portable and light then the huge M16 types...
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Reply #1 - Jul 3rd, 2004 at 1:59pm
 
I remember reading that the sling was used to throw hand grenades in the First World War in 1914-1919, and in the Spanish Civil War in 1936-1939. But I think it was probably used because there were no "huge M16 type" grenade launchers available. True, a sling is more portable and light than a proper grenade launcher, but then again it's more difficult to hit the intended target with a sling, and you could even accidentally toss the grenade on your own feet!  Shocked
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Reply #2 - Jul 3rd, 2004 at 2:04pm
 
Don't go there gentlemen.  Wink Lips Sealed  8)
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Reply #3 - Jul 3rd, 2004 at 3:08pm
 
Now you guys are talking about something I know more about than slings.  A sling COULD be used as a grenade launcher BUT, hand grenades would have to be used as apposed to the 40 mm M203 ammo (the huge M16 type) and the fuse would have to be longer since you couldn't predict whether or not the sling pouch would hold the release spoon on the grenade.  I'm not sure if as soon as you let go of the grenade to sling it if the spoon would pop possibly pushing the grenade out of the sling.
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Reply #4 - Jul 3rd, 2004 at 4:36pm
 
I have a dummy gernage. I might try it to see if it would fall out easliy. I won't throw it very far because i want it back. Keep you posted.
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Reply #5 - Jul 3rd, 2004 at 4:49pm
 
I tried the dummy granade. It worked really well in my sling. The granade was a US standard issue dummy pinapple granade. Since, it was a pinapple granade, it stayed in my pouch very well. I was concerned about it flying back ward but it had a good feal to it. I didn't throw it very far, but i think you could get some real distance with it. I do think you would need a longer fuse time. I however don't know what the stanered time is. I think it is 15 and 30 seconds but i don't know for sure.
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Reply #6 - Jul 3rd, 2004 at 5:27pm
 
The standard time for a U.S. grenade is 5 seconds plus or minus a second.  Does you dummy grenade have the spring still in the firing mechanism?  I was sure that the grenade would fit, I just wasn't sure if the spring in the firing mechanism would push the grenade out of the pouch.
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Reply #7 - Jul 3rd, 2004 at 5:53pm
 
HEY! A few weeks back I posted about this...news item on channel 5 here in the UK about Iraq. I distinctly remember seeing a group of men and boys with some nasty weapons, and on the far left, a kid, maybe 11-13, with a sling with a grenade in a pouch, lever down. Look in the thread about fireslings.

I visited the tank museum in Devon a few weeks back, and found some WW1 German egg sized grenades...just the right size for slinging.

Anyhow, isn't there a story/article on this site about an Israeli army officer teaching his troops how to make and use slings for throwing grenades. He must have been one of the 1972 Antebe air lifted Jews, because I remeber him writing, "...this is how we learn to throw grenadeds in the..." oh damn, my heads gone blank again...anyhow, I found it the first time I visited this site.
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Reply #8 - Jul 3rd, 2004 at 6:33pm
 
I had no problem with it leaving the pouch. It was so heavy it didn't want to leave until i let it go. You do have to put it in there balanced, that is the key i think to properly throwing a granade. The spring do you mean the leaver? I have never seen a spring in the granade. The top does screw out so i have look at the firing mexanism. I didn't see a spring. Maybe it was taken out to help demilitize it. If you guys want to try with a dummy granade go to your local Army surplus store. They usally have some there for about five buck. If i was going to practice throwing it i would paint it orange to be able to find it.
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Reply #9 - Jul 3rd, 2004 at 6:52pm
 
The level is called a spoon, dunno why but that's what I was told.  The spring is in there to swing the hammer to begin the fuse.  i didn't think you dummy grenade would have the spring and hammer.  As far as I know dummy grenades sold to civilians do not have the spring and hammer in them.  But sometimes people get thier hands on stuff.  The more I think about it the more I think its possible to sling a grenade so long as you get the Gs high enough to cause the wieght of the grenade to hold the spoon down.
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Reply #10 - Jul 3rd, 2004 at 9:00pm
 
As heavy as a granade is, I think you could easliy keep the spoon down.
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Reply #11 - Jul 3rd, 2004 at 10:34pm
 
Yeah, I say so.  But I'm a little paranoid so I teld to dwell on what can go wrong.
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Reply #12 - Jul 4th, 2004 at 3:21pm
 
Interesting topic...
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...news item on channel 5 here in the UK about Iraq.
You get Channel Five?  My reception gets really fuzzy.  I think I may well write to them...
I think you would need real balls of steels to go about doing this (not writing to channel five, slinging grenades).  You'd have to be really sure of your slinging skills.
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Reply #13 - Jul 4th, 2004 at 3:33pm
 
The casualty radius of a grenade is 5 meters.  It's still dangerous beyond that but it loses it's effectiveness as a instrument of death.  So you had best sling it farther than 15 meters if you hant to come no injuries what so ever.  I think that when I get into the Army this coming Fall I might give it a try with a simulator grenade.
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Reply #14 - Jul 4th, 2004 at 4:23pm
 
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So you had best sling it farther than 15 meters if you hant to come no injuries what so ever


Is there no risk to get a hit with any splinter in this in this case ???
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