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Re: Netted sling v.2
Reply #15 - Apr 28th, 2004 at 11:41am
 
I've seen a few... The sheer number of threads that you need is a little daunting though!

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All the examples I've seen use the same 6 row netting for the pocket, so that seems to add historical validation to the choice! 8 is really too many unless you have crazy thin strands.

I was also considering using a "raschel knit" which is the construction used for modern knotless net. I really like the twelve strand pocket design though. I'm still looking for a good way to handle the taper needed to reduce the number of strands in the cords.

Matthias

(and I want to see what Goblin comes up with!)
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Reply #16 - Apr 29th, 2004 at 9:43pm
 
wow that looks amazingly hard to do. i wanna try! lol!
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Reply #17 - Apr 30th, 2004 at 3:35pm
 
Braided net... It's not actually as hard as it looks... I started tying a sample using 1/4" twine (easier to work things out at large scale) and it would be pretty slick! I changed the join pattern for a smoother/stronger weave. The knots in knotted web do serve a purpose though. Much more resistant to damage than knotless mesh. The global fishing industry gave up on knotless after a short experimental period.

Here are my final two prototypes. The article will be forthcoming...

The first is tapered from three strands of 3 strand twisted twine braided to 6 strands flat braid then into the same 3/6/3 arrangement as before. The grip and release are doubled up as well, and I figured out why all those peruvian slings have fancy release ends. They ran out of main threads during the braiding.... The tassel gives a nice snap for herding the local ___...

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The second one is 1mm Dyneema, at 47"... going to sling me some long ones this weekend Grin I'd wear it around my waist like a belt (since it's my longest sling) but 1mm kevlar/spectra cuts too much...

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Reply #18 - Apr 30th, 2004 at 5:09pm
 
Excellent knotwork!  I'm so envious. I'm particularly impressed that you used the proper netting knot.
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Reply #19 - Apr 30th, 2004 at 5:55pm
 
I'm not getting the last two pictures.  Wanna see!
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Reply #20 - Apr 30th, 2004 at 7:41pm
 
yah i am missing those pics to. to bad, they sound cool.
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Reply #21 - May 1st, 2004 at 5:41pm
 
The images are now online:

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Braided net... It's not actually as hard as it looks... I started tying a sample using 1/4" twine (easier to work things out at large scale) and it would be pretty slick! I changed the join pattern for a smoother/stronger weave. The knots in knotted web do serve a purpose though. Much more resistant to damage than knotless mesh. The global fishing industry gave up on knotless after a short experimental period.

Here are my final two prototypes. The article will be forthcoming...

The first is tapered from three strands of 3 strand twisted twine braided to 6 strands flat braid then into the same 3/6/3 arrangement as before. The grip and release are doubled up as well, and I figured out why all those peruvian slings have fancy release ends. They ran out of main threads during the braiding.... The tassel gives a nice snap for herding the local ___...

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The second one is 1mm Dyneema, at 47"... going to sling me some long ones this weekend Grin I'd wear it around my waist like a belt (since it's my longest sling) but 1mm kevlar/spectra cuts too much...

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edit - I screwed up and have tried to resend the photos to Chris... We'll get it fixed. Sorry for the confusion, was not expecting to be near a computer again for a few days and though I could sneak the post through before the pics were up. doh.

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Reply #22 - May 4th, 2004 at 9:37am
 
those pics are amazing! lol! they rule. i wish i could make a sling that awesome. my current one looks like a p.o.s. lol! good job man i can't believe how amazing those are!
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Reply #23 - May 4th, 2004 at 11:13am
 
Very,very nice.
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Reply #24 - Apr 30th, 2010 at 6:09am
 
Matthias wrote on Apr 18th, 2004 at 8:33pm:
I tried out the idea of carrying the netting twine through the body of the sling and came up with the following prototype:

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I like the elegance/simplicity of design in the pocket vs the method where the net is worked back and forth, though carrying 6 strands instead of 1 certainly adds bulk. I started out round braiding the 12 strands but gave up pretty quickly (proof of concept and all)

The sling is high ten. PE 6 strands flat braided in the middle for the finger loop, ending up with 12 strands braided for the cord (4 in 3). The pocket is as per the Balearic / "20 steps" slings - 3 strands braided each side. The remaining 6 strands are netted...

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This one goes together really quickly. I think the next iteration I'll weave/splice the net strands in (keeping all 6 entering and exiting the pouch) to reduce the diameter of the main cords. Maybe Dyneema as well...


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This is just fabulous, respect!
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Reply #25 - Jan 24th, 2012 at 5:34pm
 
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Reply #26 - Jan 24th, 2012 at 7:10pm
 
ooh nice asemery. Is that knotted with one continuous strand or many strands?
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Reply #27 - Jan 26th, 2012 at 10:07am
 
That is one strand of braided nylon twine made into a rectangle of netting.  When the ends of the netting are drawn together it forms a natural pouch.  Tony
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Reply #28 - Jan 26th, 2012 at 1:11pm
 
One strand netting, larger gauge.
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Re: Netted sling v.2
Reply #29 - Jan 26th, 2012 at 8:21pm
 
It's an interesting design, and looks usable. I'll need to try it at some point.
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