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Reply #210 - Jul 22nd, 2006 at 2:50am
 
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I've done Greek GCSE, so I could take a stab, but don't expect great things.


Thanks.  By the way, what is GCSE?  I'm not familiar with the acronym.
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Reply #211 - Jul 22nd, 2006 at 12:31pm
 
Ah sorry it stands for General Certificate of Secondary Education in the UK.  Its the exams  all 16 year olds tkae in subjects of their choice.
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Reply #212 - Jul 25th, 2006 at 11:32am
 
Here are my cetros I made a wile back.
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I have found that the first one keeps the dart more stable than the second one. Maby my dart is to light but it is pretty hevy.
The dart  is just a wooden dowle with feathers and a very sharp point made of pipe. I put copper wire on the front to make it very front hevy.
I love this weapon. I can throw this dart 60 yard easily.I could probably throw it farther but I dont want to loose it(already lost one).
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Reply #213 - Jul 25th, 2006 at 1:07pm
 
that is a really nice kestros, and it sounds like that is the first successful model of a kestros to date.  does it work consistently, or do you have frequent problems?
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Reply #214 - Jul 25th, 2006 at 1:23pm
 
I rarely have problems with it. You cant wind up because the cords would get tangled but the wind up is not nesecery.
I have not tried target shooting yet but I will soon. It seems decently accurate, even at 60 yards. I need to make more darts to see how consistant it is.
Wile I use this weapon I think of how suprized a chaging army would be to see deadly darts being thrown by a sling.
I wish I knew how many foot pounds one of the hevy darts would have being thrown by a cestro.
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Reply #215 - Jul 25th, 2006 at 1:53pm
 
Sorry, but I believe that Hondero has built several successful kestrosphendonei (...donai? How do you form the plural in Greek?)  See, for instance,
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Reply #216 - Jul 25th, 2006 at 1:56pm
 
I knew I was not the first. I read that before. He made some nice darts.
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Reply #217 - Jul 25th, 2006 at 2:21pm
 
ah yes i forgot about hondero.   Embarrassed
most of the people that tried to build a kestros seemed to have troubles though, and i sometimes have trouble keeping it all straight.
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Reply #218 - Jul 25th, 2006 at 2:34pm
 
Oops, I was actually replying to Siguy, but your latest post got in there before me, Amras...

The plural would be "kestrosphendonai", I think.  Hondero has built several kestrosphendonai.  I have built but one kestrosphendone, and it wasn't the (reconstructed) traditional design, it was
Jurek's design
.  See replies #12, #15 and #39 for detail illustrations on how to load Jurek's kestros.  It works well, but it is slow to load.

(edit)  ACK!  Siguy, I am really slow today ... your latest post also got there before this, my reply to Amras...  oh well.
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Reply #219 - Jul 25th, 2006 at 2:39pm
 
that's okay dale. better late than never! ( man that saying is so old i hate to even think it ). 

i didn't see that design before, thanks for bringing it up for me to see.
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Reply #220 - Jul 26th, 2006 at 1:55pm
 
yeah if you look though this thead you will find most of us have made a cesti's at one time or another
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Reply #221 - Jul 27th, 2006 at 4:30pm
 
Check this out.
http://www.eriding.net/media/photos/history/romans/artefacts/051221_pelliott_mp_...
It is labled "Throwing Dart"
This is a Roman site and I know the Cestro was inventede by Greeks to kill Romans but do you think posibly this(or the original it was modled after, if it is modled after a true artifact) would have been ment to be thrown with a cestro. Maybe the Romans saw how effective it was wile fighting the Greeks and desided to arm their own soldiers with it. Or maybe soldiers who were originally Greek used it in battle.
I dont know anything about the dart shown. It might be just thought up with no history in mind.

Did the Romans use hand thrown darts?

What do you think?
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Reply #222 - Jul 27th, 2006 at 6:06pm
 
that's a pretty feirce looking dart.  that would make a nice spear or harpoon tip if it was bigger
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Reply #223 - Jul 28th, 2006 at 3:27am
 
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Did the Romans use hand thrown darts?



Yes they did, and the darts were known as plumbatae.  Tests have been made with reconstructed plumbatae; the farthest throws were about 70 yards, the darts gripped by the tail and thrown underhand.  See "Testing Plumbatae" by John Eagle in Roman Military Equipment: the Sources of Evidence  , BAR International Series 476, Oxford, 1989.
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Reply #224 - Jul 28th, 2006 at 9:19am
 
Ok that would explain the dart.
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