well I was planning on cuting down one of my damaged alumium shaft making it just fletching and arrow head insert  filling the rest full of lead and see what I got

Interesting how is going on this thread. I knew a guy who tried that type of glans with short fins and an little iron point, and he said it works.
I´ve tried shorts darts like cestros or croosbow bolts with a conventional sling and though it´s a little difficult to get the technique it works too. The dart is placed crossed in the pouch, like a glans, by its gravity center. When you make the windup the dart moves always point first due to the fins and twist the cords making impossible a suitable throwing, but  if you twist previously the sling contrariwise the same number of times as your spinning, then at the release  the cords are parallel and the dart goes out freely and perfectly oriented forward. The best is to make only one or two revolutions to get a good control.
About glandes with fins I think it will work in the same way but the glans may not be perfectly oriented when spinning, and the release not be point first, but eventually along the flight they will be well oriented due to the fins, though lossing part of its energy.

What Hondero says makes sense.  I tried using a sling to throw darts, and it worked, but it wasn't very reliable and I didn't develop good technique.  However... I think if you had spirally fletched darts/arrows then it would work well, because the spiral would actually power it forward simply whilst in the pouch and out.  I might give it a go.

awsome we will expect a full report lol

yes very carefully and i did spill some i stick the arrow in a box of sand with the end facing up so itdoes't matter so much if you spill a little

im having some problems with the darts. The dart is supposed to be heaver at the head right? I want to make the dart that looks a little like a screw driver at the front attached to a wooden back. I dont know if thats what it is but thats what i think it is. I think its hondaros dart. not shure.

has any one been playing with the kestros lately? how is it going for you guys?

heres hoping that i can figure this thing out
douglas

Welcome D.D, it´s nice to see one more  person interested in this weapon and that the thread is still alive. Maybe someone from France could have acces to that article by A. Bertrand and post it for us. It would be great... I´ve read several quotes of it, the most interesting is in the "Dictionnaire des Antiquités Grecques et Romaines" by D´Aremberg et Saglio (1892) where they explain the experiences of Bertrand. I think Bertrand made an interesting reconstruction of the weapon, but there are still some uncertainties about it. What I´m sure is that Bertrand was not a good slinger   because 70 meters is a very short range. Or maybe his reconstruction was not enough good. I can reach 150 or more, just the same as with a stone (and this is a poor record for some slingers in this forum)

in the other primitive weapons  theres a few threads 14 pages long.


I still havent gotten around to making that arrow yet. Too busy making pitch pots. And i have wasted most of my lead on making glands that i can never find after i throw them.