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Message started by Archaic Arms on Mar 20th, 2025 at 6:22am

Title: Optimising the Plumbata
Post by Archaic Arms on Mar 20th, 2025 at 6:22am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lScCnPKBkWk

Title: Re: Optimising the Plumbata
Post by IronGoober on Mar 20th, 2025 at 9:54pm
Wonderful execution, as always. Love this concept. I think that some penetration/damage tests at 20m or something along those lines is in order. With comparison to a sling with a similar weight of projectile and a comparison to a bow of similar energy (if you can manage the draw weight).  It would prove the concept that you get the advantage of the sling range with more penetrating power than a bow.

Title: Re: Optimising the Plumbata
Post by joe_meadmaker on Mar 20th, 2025 at 10:48pm
Excellent video!  You put things together in a combination of information, entertainment, and level of production that I think only Morningstar's videos are on par with.  Wonder when that guy's going to make another one. ::)

Title: Re: Optimising the Plumbata
Post by louisdebonald on Mar 20th, 2025 at 11:59pm
Very nice video, I was re watching some of your older ones wondering when you would post again, lucky me.

Title: Re: Optimising the Plumbata
Post by xud9a - call me zud 👍 on Mar 21st, 2025 at 6:11am
I really appreciate your content Lewis, thanks.

😁👍

Title: Re: Optimising the Plumbata
Post by Archaic Arms on Mar 21st, 2025 at 6:02pm

IronGoober wrote on Mar 20th, 2025 at 9:54pm:
Wonderful execution, as always. Love this concept. I think that some penetration/damage tests at 20m or something along those lines is in order. With comparison to a sling with a similar weight of projectile and a comparison to a bow of similar energy (if you can manage the draw weight).  It would prove the concept that you get the advantage of the sling range with more penetrating power than a bow.

Thanks! really appreciate it.
Definitely will be doing something along these lines. I myself am very curious how the two will compare.

Title: Re: Optimising the Plumbata
Post by Archaic Arms on Mar 21st, 2025 at 6:03pm

joe_meadmaker wrote on Mar 20th, 2025 at 10:48pm:
Excellent video!  You put things together in a combination of information, entertainment, and level of production that I think only Morningstar's videos are on par with.  Wonder when that guy's going to make another one. ::)

Thank you Joe! it means a lot.

Title: Re: Optimising the Plumbata
Post by Archaic Arms on Mar 21st, 2025 at 6:04pm

xud9a - call me zud 👍 wrote on Mar 21st, 2025 at 6:11am:
I really appreciate your content Lewis, thanks.

😁👍

Always glad to hear it's not just me that finds these things interesting! Thanks!

Title: Re: Optimising the Plumbata
Post by Archaic Arms on Mar 21st, 2025 at 6:08pm

louisdebonald wrote on Mar 20th, 2025 at 11:59pm:
Very nice video, I was re watching some of your older ones wondering when you would post again, lucky me.

Glad you liked it! Aiming for lots this year.

Title: Re: Optimising the Plumbata
Post by ScantPalaver on Mar 23rd, 2025 at 3:51pm
This has prob'ly been asked and answered a bunch of times, but a lot of the pictures and recreations of plumbata use a gland-shaped weight.  If it's gland-shaped, could it be slung?  I know the kestros is a thing, so the goal of slinging an arrow/dart already has a solution, I'm just thinking along the lines of, "this shape is like this shape, so by association, this action must be possible."

Title: Re: Optimising the Plumbata
Post by Kick on Apr 1st, 2025 at 4:03pm

Stals wrote on Mar 23rd, 2025 at 3:51pm:
This has prob'ly been asked and answered a bunch of times, but a lot of the pictures and recreations of plumbata use a gland-shaped weight.  If it's gland-shaped, could it be slung?  I know the kestros is a thing, so the goal of slinging an arrow/dart already has a solution, I'm just thinking along the lines of, "this shape is like this shape, so by association, this action must be possible."

It wouldn't really be possible to balance it in a sling pouch. I think the shape is just because it's aerodynamic, or more likely it's just easiest and most efficient to have a somewhat rounded shape.

Title: Re: Optimising the Plumbata
Post by joe_meadmaker on Apr 1st, 2025 at 7:55pm

Kick wrote on Apr 1st, 2025 at 4:03pm:
more likely it's just easiest and most efficient to have a somewhat rounded shape.

Ha! Yep!


This isn't a plumbata.  But it is a sling projectile with an arrow shaft sticking out of it.  And the arrow shaft does straighten out in flight.

https://youtu.be/gYE7Rm_7kuM

Title: Re: Optimising the Plumbata
Post by Rat Man on Apr 7th, 2025 at 9:43am
Excellent video.  Thank you.

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