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Message started by Rat Man on May 21st, 2023 at 3:03pm

Title: Foods That You Always Overeat
Post by Rat Man on May 21st, 2023 at 3:03pm
    What food makes a glutton out of you.  Pizza is my number one to pig out on.  A young friend of mine, Mark, came by to visit a couple of months ago.  He has an appetite similar to mine.  Within ten minutes the two of us destroyed a huge Sicilian pizza. 
    Ice cream is another.  I will always eat too much ice cream.
     So what do you totally pig out on?

Title: Re: Foods That You Always Overeat
Post by Eino on May 21st, 2023 at 10:06pm
I'd have to say that for me it's barbeque ribs. They taste wonderful, and are so incredibly messy (especially the really good ones that are tender and fall off the bone). I haven't really overeaten anything lately, though, but I have wished that I'd eaten slower as to enjoy it longer.

Title: Re: Foods That You Always Overeat
Post by Yfir on May 21st, 2023 at 11:05pm
Fruit! Luckily it's healthy and not really fattening so I can overeat it without much concern.

Title: Re: Foods That You Always Overeat
Post by StaffSlinger on May 23rd, 2023 at 3:33pm
Mango any way
Shrimp any way

Title: Re: Foods That You Always Overeat
Post by joe_meadmaker on May 24th, 2023 at 12:18pm
I'm basically with Rat Man on this.  Pizza is definitely one.  Any kind of dessert item is another.  If I have desserts in the house, I just continually go after them.  To avoid it I just don't keep that kind of thing around.  Maybe once a week get something as a treat.

Title: Re: Foods That You Always Overeat
Post by Rat Man on May 25th, 2023 at 3:35pm

joe_meadmaker wrote on May 24th, 2023 at 12:18pm:
I'm basically with Rat Man on this.† Pizza is definitely one.† Any kind of dessert item is another.† If I have desserts in the house, I just continually go after them.† To avoid it I just don't keep that kind of thing around.† Maybe once a week get something as a treat.

Yes, the best bet is to not keep such things around. If I didn't keep the house free of such temptations I'd literally be seven hundred pounds. 

Title: Re: Foods That You Always Overeat
Post by slingbadger on May 26th, 2023 at 6:35am
Cherry twizzlers. I can eat a whole bag in one sitting.
Chocolate ice cream

Title: Re: Foods That You Always Overeat
Post by Rat Man on May 26th, 2023 at 3:08pm
Turkey Hill's version of Rocky Road is my Kryptonite.  I will eat a whole half gallon in one sitting.  I avoid it like the plague. 

Title: Re: Foods That You Always Overeat
Post by Rat Man on Jun 6th, 2023 at 9:00am
Spaghetti is another food I will always eat too much of.  I make such good sauce it's hard to resist.

Title: Re: Foods That You Always Overeat
Post by Eino on Jun 6th, 2023 at 9:29am
Yeah, spaghetti is really good and very easy to eat! Especially if you use sausage instead of beef or turkey in the sauce. When you do that, it is very, very flavorful.

Title: Re: Foods That You Always Overeat
Post by Slyngorm on Jun 6th, 2023 at 2:05pm
Crisps. If there is an open bag of em, I'll eat em all!

Title: Re: Foods That You Always Overeat
Post by Rat Man on Jun 6th, 2023 at 4:15pm

Slyngorm wrote on Jun 6th, 2023 at 2:05pm:
Crisps. If there is an open bag of em, I'll eat em all!

     We call them potato chips here in the States.  And yes, I don't keep them around for that very reason.  No matter how big the bag I'll eat the whole thing.  They're even better with California Dip which is sour cream mixed with onion soup mix. 

Title: Re: Foods That You Always Overeat
Post by Slyngorm on Jun 8th, 2023 at 3:05pm
Yeah, that's a funny difference between British and American English.
Here, 'chips' are french fries.

My favourite are potato chips with ketchup taste. Dipping regular potato chips in real ketchup is good too.
I have a bag of em downstairs I bought today and fighting the urge to have some  :-X

Title: Re: Foods That You Always Overeat
Post by Rat Man on Jun 9th, 2023 at 4:01pm
    Around Boston people put vinegar on their French Fries.  I learned this from a friend in the army.  The first time I watched him order  fries with vinegar at a bar I thought he was nuts.  It sounded bizarre but when I tried it I discovered that fries with vinegar are actually very good.

Title: Re: Foods That You Always Overeat
Post by StaffSlinger on Jun 9th, 2023 at 4:28pm
My partner is British.  I learned long ago to put Malt vinegar on Fish & Chips. 

Title: Re: Foods That You Always Overeat
Post by Slyngorm on Jun 24th, 2023 at 6:30am
I was also sceptical about chips with vinegar that when I first heard about it. But later realized that it is similar to putting ketchup on chips.

Title: Re: Foods That You Always Overeat
Post by Eino on Jun 24th, 2023 at 11:45am
There are sea salt and vinegar flavored chips. I'd imagine they'd taste pretty similar to plain chips with vinegar on them.

ketchup on chips... I haven't tried that yet :)

EDIT: Oops, I was talking about American chips. I haven't tried vinegar on fries yet, but it sounds like it would be pretty good.

Title: Re: Foods That You Always Overeat
Post by Rat Man on Jul 15th, 2023 at 2:20pm
    Cherries.  I will eat a pound of cherries myself in one sitting.  I have to force myself to stop eating them. 

Title: Re: Foods That You Always Overeat
Post by Morphy on Jul 15th, 2023 at 2:56pm
Sushi. One roll is like 0 rolls, 2 is 1 and so on.

Pizza and homemade chocolate chip cookies.

Title: Re: Foods That You Always Overeat
Post by Eino on Jul 15th, 2023 at 4:48pm
Blueberries disappear so fast. The bowl is full, a bit later, it's empty. And blueberries aren't that filling, so I don't quite realize that I've eaten almost a whole bowl until it is gone.

Title: Re: Foods That You Always Overeat
Post by Yfir on Jul 16th, 2023 at 7:17am
I love smoked meats, smoked pork sausage and belly are delicious. Only home made though, the stuff they put in shop-bought preserved meats is terrifying.

Title: Re: Foods That You Always Overeat
Post by Eino on Jul 16th, 2023 at 10:20am
I love jerky, but so much of it has sodium nitrite or sodium nitrate. I stick to the few brands that don't have it.

Smoked meats are also delicious.

Title: Re: Foods That You Always Overeat
Post by Rat Man on Jul 16th, 2023 at 2:55pm
     I read an article a long time ago.  It claimed that when refrigerators became available to the general public the incidence of stomach cancer dropped noticeably.  The reason;  people started eating less smoked, dried, preserved meats. 
     That said, smoked meats are delicious.  One of my mantras is "Everything in moderation."  Some smoked meats once in a while probably will do no harm.

Title: Re: Foods That You Always Overeat
Post by Yfir on Jul 16th, 2023 at 6:51pm
I eat smoked meats almost every day! Only thing in them is salt and spices, and they're smoked with natural wood. I reckon the carcinogens in preserved meats are the various chemicals they put into them (eg sodium nitrate), rather than the smoke itself.

Title: Re: Foods That You Always Overeat
Post by Rat Man on Jul 17th, 2023 at 7:38am
    Not to be a pain in the rear but....

https://tasteinsight.com/do-smoked-meats-cause-cancer/

There are many other articles that say the same thing. 

Title: Re: Foods That You Always Overeat
Post by Morphy on Jul 17th, 2023 at 10:46am
"If carcinogens werent meant to be eaten they wouldnt be so tasty." - Abraham Lincoln

Title: Re: Foods That You Always Overeat
Post by Rat Man on Jul 17th, 2023 at 1:13pm

Morphy wrote on Jul 17th, 2023 at 10:46am:
"If carcinogens werent meant to be eaten they wouldnt be so tasty." - Abraham Lincoln

;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Foods That You Always Overeat
Post by Yfir on Jul 17th, 2023 at 6:30pm
Cancer was pretty rare until the last century - well after smoked meats were established. What does this tell us? If you ask me, it tells us that when processed food became widespread, cancer became more common. That's why I think they're mistaking what makes smoked meat dangerous - the additives.

Title: Re: Foods That You Always Overeat
Post by blargslap on Jul 17th, 2023 at 8:00pm
Iím constantly fighting with being overweight myself, it got worse once I had kids and getting out and about became difficult with work and everything else.

For me, itís either anything BBQ or pies ! Easy to get, comparatively cheap and some of them are so damn good. I swear I could eat 4 of the damn things in one go!

Title: Re: Foods That You Always Overeat
Post by Rat Man on Jul 18th, 2023 at 8:10am

Yfir wrote on Jul 17th, 2023 at 6:30pm:
Cancer was pretty rare until the last century - well after smoked meats were established. What does this tell us? If you ask me, it tells us that when processed food became widespread, cancer became more common. That's why I think they're mistaking what makes smoked meat dangerous - the additives.


      Yes, processed foods are bad for our health in many ways.  That's why I don't eat any.  And the additives they put in smoked meat definitely makes it more dangerous. 
      My statement refers to the time before smoked meats were mass produced with additives.  Do a little more research.  The link between smoked meat and stomach cancer is a reality. 
     I personally don't care what anyone eats.  If someone wants to eat smoked meat six times a day or eat at McDonald's every day of their life I'm fine with it.  And eating something not completely healthy once in a while will probably do you no harm.  But if I know of a risk that you don't and I don't tell you about it then I am negligent. 

Title: Re: Foods That You Always Overeat
Post by Yfir on Jul 18th, 2023 at 8:10pm

Rat Man wrote on Jul 18th, 2023 at 8:10am:
Yes, processed foods are bad for our health in many ways.† That's why I don't eat any.† And the additives they put in smoked meat definitely makes it more dangerous.†
† †† †My statement refers to the time before smoked meats were mass produced with additives.† Do a little more research.† The link between smoked meat and stomach cancer is a reality.†
† †† I personally don't care what anyone eats.† If someone wants to eat smoked meat six times a day or eat at McDonald's every day of their life I'm fine with it.† And eating something not completely healthy once in a while will probably do you no harm.† But if I know of a risk that you don't and I don't tell you about it then I am negligent.


Fair enough, I appreciate it. Thing is, I know all these researchers have hidden agendas and all that. You get rid of smoked meats, and people become far less self-sufficient because they're scared to preserve their own food. So I'm reluctant to believe anything any scientist or researcher says about food - especially traditional food.

Title: Re: Foods That You Always Overeat
Post by Morphy on Jul 19th, 2023 at 6:23am
Im a little skeptical of the anti meat sentiment these days. Many people have adopted the carnivore diet and said its healed all sorts of autoimmune conditions. For myself I had to go on a very strict diet of very low grain and no dairy to control my autoimmune issues. After my experience I could see how there may be something to it.

But yeah the smoked meats... I could see that increasing the risk just because we know smoke increases risks of cancer across the board. The rate of cancer in firefighters is really high so there must be something to it.

Title: Re: Foods That You Always Overeat
Post by Rat Man on Jul 19th, 2023 at 11:17am
† † Two things I've said many times before... everything in moderation.† And you can tell what a creature is supposed to eat by looking at his teeth.† We are Onmivores.† We are meant to eat meat and plants.† Leaning too heavily to one side or the other compromises health.† A good balance is what's needed.† That's my opinion anyway.†And I hope smoked meats are around forever.  There is something very primal and wonderful about smoke on meat.  It's deep in our DNA. 

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