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Message started by Archaic Arms on Nov 2nd, 2022 at 7:03am

Title: Highscores
Post by Archaic Arms on Nov 2nd, 2022 at 7:03am
Submit your personal high scores here!
Lets get some friendly competition going, even if it's just with yourself!

Post a link to uncut video of you slinging one of the categories, and it shall be added to the board. A segment of a longer video is valid, only the chosen sequence must be left unedited.
If you later beat your personal best, it will replace your old one on the board.

Category suggestions are welcomed!


Standard Balearic (10 shots, all ammo valid)
Target: 120cm square (1 point) 50cm circle (2 points)


13m:

12+2 Blindsquirrel
15+6 Joe_meadmaker
17+8 NooneOfConsequence
18+8 Archaic Arms
18+8 Mersa




20m:

10+3 Joe_meadmaker
12+3 Blindsquirrel
12+5 Mersa
14+4 IronGoober
14+5 Archaic Arms




30m:

10+3 Archaic Arms




...



Title: Re: Highscores
Post by Archaic Arms on Nov 2nd, 2022 at 7:15am
I'll put up some scores to get the ball rolling.

13m: 18+8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DmqjjuysTU

20m: 14+5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRHnI_pw7c8 (12 shots, but only 10 shot sequence counts)

30m: 10+3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BtHIz_KbBU 1:51-4:00 (30 shots, but only 10 shot sequence counts)

Others I found:

Mersa 13m: 18+8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sNJW2xnuNg

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by Mersa on Nov 2nd, 2022 at 8:23am
Most throws in a minute.
Dan savage.
https://youtu.be/-POOB_A1X1s

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by Curious Aardvark on Nov 3rd, 2022 at 7:39am
So is that 18 points with 8 Diana's
Or 18 hits with 8 Diana's - which would be 26 points

Or something else entirely :-)
And are you counting points doubled for 30metres ?

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by IronGoober on Nov 3rd, 2022 at 10:46am
C_A, he means to take the best 10 shots in a row for the best score possible.

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by joe_meadmaker on Nov 3rd, 2022 at 1:54pm
I like the high score board!

Unfortunately my highest (13m) isn't on video.† During a practice session right before recording for the PP comp, I scored a 17+7.† I really wish I had the camera going for the practice session.† Definitely a fluke.† Don't think I'll ever do that again.

And the highest score that I have on video is edited.† :(
It was one of the rounds during my 100 Ball video.† I think it was the 9th round I got a 15+6.

I'll get another one at some point to post.

I might have a 20m to post though.† It's one I sent to Channing, but I really don't know what's happening with the PP comp lately.† I know some weeks got delayed because he was doing Ibiza videos, but I don't know if the round is going to get used or not.† Whether it is or not, I'll post the link here after this Saturday.† It's nothing record breaking, but it's a 20m round I was really happy with.

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by Curious Aardvark on Nov 6th, 2022 at 9:10am
@ig - you did not read the question
What does the 18 + 8 mean ?
18 what, plus 8 wgat
Because it's not obvious and I know pep changed stuff recently.

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by joe_meadmaker on Nov 6th, 2022 at 9:46am
@CA - Your first description was correct.† 18+8 means a total of 18 points, with 8 of the hits being dianas, in 10 throws.  So the rounds AA and Mersa did will be 8 dianas, two quad hits, and no misses.


Here's the 20m round I mentioned in my other post, 10+3

https://youtu.be/7-phb73UTzo

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by IronGoober on Nov 6th, 2022 at 10:18am
@CA, You are correct. I didn't read your question right.
The "+" notation is something Pep (iirc) used when posting scores, and we just copied it. Something better would be 18(8).

@Joe. That was an awesome round. I love how much speed you're getting on those hits.

The

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by Archaic Arms on Nov 6th, 2022 at 4:09pm

Curious Aardvark wrote on Nov 3rd, 2022 at 7:39am:
So is that 18 points with 8 Diana's
Or 18 hits with 8 Diana's - which would be 26 points

Or something else entirely :-)
And are you counting points doubled for 30metres ?

Yes like Joe and IG said, the + indicates number of dianas. I'm in favour of keeping the scoring consistent no matter the distance, but it depends what people want. For the time being, 30m is normal scoring (quadro=1, diana=2).

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by Archaic Arms on Nov 6th, 2022 at 4:12pm

joe_meadmaker wrote on Nov 6th, 2022 at 9:46am:
Here's the 20m round I mentioned in my other post, 10+3

https://youtu.be/7-phb73UTzo

Great rounds Joe! That ice had some heat! 

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by Archaic Arms on Nov 6th, 2022 at 4:14pm

IronGoober wrote on Nov 6th, 2022 at 10:18am:
Something better would be 18(8).

I like this suggestion a lot. It a small change, but it avoids the + confusion and people still will know what you're talking about.

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by joe_meadmaker on Nov 6th, 2022 at 5:37pm

Archaic Arms wrote on Nov 6th, 2022 at 4:09pm:
For the time being, 30m is normal scoring (quadro=1, diana=2).

I think 30m should stay as normal scoring.† In a competition I could see 30m having higher point totals.† Especially if points for different distances are going to be combined at the end.† But in this topic I think the score is really just to show how many times the slinger hit the target.† Having 30m worth more points doesn't help that.



Archaic Arms wrote on Nov 6th, 2022 at 4:14pm:

IronGoober wrote on Nov 6th, 2022 at 10:18am:
Something better would be 18(8).

I like this suggestion a lot. It a small change, but it avoids the + confusion and people still will know what you're talking about.

How were point totals displayed in Ibiza this year?† Did anyone see?

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by Mersa on Nov 7th, 2022 at 4:48pm
I like the + notation
Itís not that confusing once you know. What is confusing is changing how we write it.
I work in metric usually but still mesure a sling folded in inches.

#savethe+notation

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by IronGoober on Nov 7th, 2022 at 6:39pm
#savethe+notation is gold, LOL!

I still don't like it though :)

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by joe_meadmaker on Nov 7th, 2022 at 7:57pm

Blindsquirrel wrote on Nov 7th, 2022 at 5:54pm:
why should we as slingerís redefine basic balearic slinging terminology, just to appease others so they can understand.

I don't think it's about appeasement.† I think having a notation that will minimize the chance of confusion as much as possible is beneficial to experienced slingers and beginners alike.

That said, I think being as consistent as possible across the board is the most important.† For example if someone sees a particular notation here, which is different from any video that might be seen from the International Tournament, and possibly different to what Channing uses for his comps, I don't think is a good strategy.† I'm not a huge fan of the +.† But if that's what is seen everywhere else, I think it's the best option.

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by Archaic Arms on Nov 8th, 2022 at 3:34am

joe_meadmaker wrote on Nov 7th, 2022 at 7:57pm:
I think having a notation that will minimize the chance of confusion as much as possible is beneficial to experienced slingers and beginners alike.

I agree! but I have reverted it for the aforementioned reasons and + lovers  ;). This can be revisited when we have a larger group, and make it a poll.†

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by IronGoober on Nov 8th, 2022 at 9:55am
But let's think about this. Knowing what you do now about the competitions and that number of dianas are the tiebreaker, had you never seen the "()" notation, would it have confused you? I think not. I think just about anyone would figure it out.

Or if you weren't familiar with the scoring and saw a "+" would that confuse you? I'd say yes, it would. It confused me. It confused others. Whereas "()" would be less confusing for newcomers. One may not know what it meant, but certainly they wouldn't be trying to add number of dianas to the score, they'd just know that there was something more than the first number.

We could also just use something like:
"TOTAL:18 D:8" or  "18@8D"


Title: Re: Highscores
Post by JudoP on Nov 8th, 2022 at 2:32pm
I do like the score(#dianas) notation a bit more to be honest (rather than score+#dianas). It just makes more sense, you aren't adding these numbers together which the + seems to imply. It confused me too when I read it.

I also like including the distance as an @ and maybe somehow including the number of shots.

score(#dianas) 10@20m

Might be a bit complex for shorthand but nice to have a succint way to communicate a round.

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by MMF on Nov 8th, 2022 at 4:16pm
10 points and 2 dianas = 10d2

When I see the plus or hear people say it, I do arithmetic. I try not to but I can't stop myself.

I can add up my score and the dianas without problems by separating them with a 'd.'

It would also be better than using parenthesis when announcing your score. The plus serves as a concise way of announcing your score and separating the two numbers. The 'd' can do the same.

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by Mersa on Nov 8th, 2022 at 4:52pm
It doesnít need to be changed

People will ask question no mater how we write it.

We could change targets,
We could change distances to feet
Sling length to cm
Ect
Letís just keep it how it is .
Changing the way sling length is measured has already caused lots of confusion

#savethe+notation



Title: Re: Highscores
Post by joe_meadmaker on Nov 8th, 2022 at 8:17pm
From a certain point of view (summoning my inner Obi-Wan), the + is used.† In the event of a tie, the D score is added to the total for the applicable scores.† Even if we're not mentally doing the math in our heads, that's essentially what's happening.

Admittedly it can also be used as a separate counter for tiebreakers.† Just a thought that the + doesn't need to be dismissed as completely out of place.


And where's Morphy?!?† He always loved a good topic derailing.† ;D
Although the discussion of score notation is somewhat related.

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by MMF on Nov 8th, 2022 at 8:25pm

joe_meadmaker wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 8:17pm:
From a certain point of view (summoning my inner Obi-Wan), the + is used.† In the event of a tie, the D score is added to the total for the applicable scores.† Even if we're not mentally doing the math in our heads, that's essentially what's happening.

Admittedly it can also be used as a separate counter for tiebreakers.† Just a thought that the + doesn't need to be dismissed as completely out of place.


But, as you say, only for ties does that work.

10+3=13
11+1=12
But 11 beats 10.

Honestly, I don't have a strong opinion here. The plus is fine; I just think the 'd' is better.

#use_the_d

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by joe_meadmaker on Nov 8th, 2022 at 8:40pm
The D count is only used for applicable scores.  Applicable meaning other scores that are part of the tie.  In your example the scores are 10 and 11, so they wouldn't fit the situation.

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by MMF on Nov 8th, 2022 at 8:49pm
You're right. The plus is just a personal problem.

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by joe_meadmaker on Nov 8th, 2022 at 8:59pm
I totally gotcha man.  I'm not a big fan of the + either.  Personally I lean toward keeping it though.  The reason is for consistency across the globe (as much as possible).  I think it's best if we use the same notation that's used where actual tournaments happen.  I like IG's thought on a full score including the total, D count, # of throws, and distance.  I don't see that being applied on a large scale though.

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by joe_meadmaker on Nov 20th, 2022 at 3:46am
I found this that I have uploaded. It's not my best, but it was a really good round for me.

13 meters - 13 (+4)

https://youtu.be/p-pgFaVrADI

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by Archaic Arms on Nov 20th, 2022 at 5:49pm

joe_meadmaker wrote on Nov 20th, 2022 at 3:46am:
I found this that I have uploaded. It's not my best, but it was a really good round for me.

13 meters - 13 (+4)

https://youtu.be/p-pgFaVrADI

Great one Joe, up to the board it goes!

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by Blindsquirrel on Nov 29th, 2022 at 4:42pm
Just got this 12+2 on camera here is link to the edited quick video, all reloads edited out. And this is the first time I hit all 10 throws.
https://youtu.be/6v3Qu7xkIZs

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by joe_meadmaker on Dec 2nd, 2022 at 1:32pm
Great round man!  Hitting all 10 is awesome, and tough to do.

Just to note, for the high score board an unedited video was requested from AA.  It makes the video longer, but ensures there isn't any cutting throws together.

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by Blindsquirrel on Dec 2nd, 2022 at 4:23pm
Best yet round at 13m uncut video. 10 shots 10 hits oh hell ya. https://youtu.be/NqlBs_KFQRw

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by joe_meadmaker on Dec 3rd, 2022 at 10:46am
Awesome round! :thumb:

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by Mersa on Feb 4th, 2023 at 6:55pm
Scored a 19+9 in practice at 13m thatís my personal best

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by Blindsquirrel on Feb 4th, 2023 at 7:40pm
Hell yea, hope u got that on camera

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by Mersa on Feb 6th, 2023 at 7:43am
No not on camera unfortunately. But Iím one step closer to the elusive 20+10.

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by Blindsquirrel on Feb 6th, 2023 at 7:58am
Heck yea, that would b awesome. With the teaks Iím learning to use to tune my slings point of impact, Iíve gotten several 9+4 just not back to back yet. I just hope one of these times I get it on camera. Keep at uíll get it.

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by Archaic Arms on Feb 7th, 2023 at 7:36am
The question is, does the 20+10 have to be done with a blank diana? or should a small central dot be permissible?

I'm in favour of the latter, but it definitely makes it easier to get. (despite it still not being at all easy ;))


I bet if we all stopped using those cursed tennis balls, and used glandes instead, 20+10 would be on video in no time.† ;D

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by Blindsquirrel on Feb 7th, 2023 at 10:17am
Once u get to a certain point in ur skill level it matters not if there is a center spot or not, u should b able to visualize a spot any where u want one.

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by NooneOfConsequence on Feb 17th, 2023 at 8:14pm
I think we should test thisÖ multiple slingers, two rounds of 50 shots at 13m on blank dianas andÖletís say a 6cm center dot (about the size of a tennis ball).  Thatís a total of 200 shots per slinger, and blank vs dots should alternate

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by NooneOfConsequence on Feb 17th, 2023 at 8:23pm
Ö letís also test the ďtennis balls stinkĒ theoryÖ how about same test but with tennis balls vs cricket balls on the target of choice?

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by joe_meadmaker on Feb 17th, 2023 at 8:25pm
I think that's a great idea NOOC.† It'll be a little bit before I can do it, but I'll definitely contribute a data point.

I might do an ice ball vs. tennis ball for my round though.† :)

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by NooneOfConsequence on Feb 17th, 2023 at 8:31pm
Anything thatís significantly denser than a tennis ball should be fine. Cricket balls are not as easy to find as tennis balls here. Ice balls are probably a better idea all around.

Ideally I would want to test a 65g tennis ball vs a 65g steel or lead glande, but Iím ok with changing both mass and density and still calling it ďscienceĒ

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by NooneOfConsequence on Feb 17th, 2023 at 8:34pm
alsoÖ flip a coin to decide which variable you start with so thereís less chance for bias based on the order.

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by Blindsquirrel on Feb 18th, 2023 at 8:54am
If just shooting at the diana, Why not just c at what distance slinger can hit 5 or 10 diana in a row? What is a blank diana?

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by joe_meadmaker on Feb 18th, 2023 at 11:53am

Blindsquirrel wrote on Feb 18th, 2023 at 8:54am:
What is a blank diana?

A diana that has nothing on it.† A blank plate.

The test is to see if a score will be higher if the diana has a smaller focus point.† NOOC suggested a 6 cm dot.† So you would do the round once with a blank diana, and again with diana that has a 6 cm dot in the middle.

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by Blindsquirrel on Feb 18th, 2023 at 12:36pm
🤔

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by Mersa on Apr 2nd, 2023 at 12:04am
Without going through all the practical paracord comps I think the first 10 balls from this 30 ball is decent enough to be my high score for 20m

https://youtu.be/Vu_gUN93ML8

12+5 . Iíll work on beating it sometime soon.

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by Archaic Arms on Apr 5th, 2023 at 5:27am

Archaic Arms wrote on Nov 2nd, 2022 at 7:03am:
Submit your personal high scores here!
Lets get some friendly competition going, even if it's just with yourself!

Post a link to uncut video of you slinging one of the categories, and it shall be added to the board. A segment of a longer video is valid, only the chosen sequence must be left unedited.
If you later beat your personal best, it will replace your old one on the board.

Category suggestions are welcomed!


Standard Balearic (10 shots, all ammo valid)
Target: 120cm square (1 point) 50cm circle (2 points)


13m:

12+2 Blindsquirrel
13+4 Joe_meadmaker
18+8 Archaic Arms
18+8 Mersa




20m:

10+3 Joe_meadmaker
12+5 Mersa
14+5 Archaic Arms




30m:

10+3 Archaic Arms




...


Title: Re: Highscores
Post by Mersa on May 8th, 2023 at 5:27am
https://youtu.be/kdvfXvi3-jQ

Pretty stoked about this one

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by joe_meadmaker on May 8th, 2023 at 8:41pm
Such an awesome round Mersa!  Great job buddy! :thumb:

I got a new high on camera too.  14+5 @ 13m.

https://youtu.be/-kYTpTzMveI

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by Archaic Arms on May 9th, 2023 at 8:58am

Mersa wrote on May 8th, 2023 at 5:27am:
https://youtu.be/kdvfXvi3-jQ

Pretty stoked about this one


I really want to give it to you, but I'm conflicted about that last shot.

What do others think?
This is the last frame of the ball:

Amazing game regardless.

Diana_or_no.png (58 KB | 12 )

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by Archaic Arms on May 9th, 2023 at 9:01am

joe_meadmaker wrote on May 8th, 2023 at 8:41pm:
Such an awesome round Mersa!† Great job buddy! :thumb:

I got a new high on camera too.† 14+5 @ 13m.

https://youtu.be/-kYTpTzMveI

Great rounds Joe! I could tell the pressure was one, but you broke through for a very solid score!

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by joe_meadmaker on May 9th, 2023 at 12:44pm

Archaic Arms wrote on May 9th, 2023 at 8:58am:
What do others think?

I hate to say it but that does appear to be outside the diana.† The video looked okay, looked like it caught the very edge.† But that still frame looks like it wasn't quite there.

As you said AA, still an amazing round!

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by IronGoober on May 9th, 2023 at 1:32pm
It would have probably grazed a raised Diana is my thought. But either way, my new goal is to at least equal it on film!

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by Mersa on May 9th, 2023 at 5:55pm
I was standing to the left of target (as a right handed slinger would) and when I did it at the time it looked to me as in and crossing the line . Unfortunately the video itís about as close as it can be to call it in or out Ö a true line call . In Ibiza thereís a second judge who makes this call.
Like I said at the time from where I was it looked in no doubt. But angles make the difference.
Without a true Diana line calls are always going to be hard calls regardless.
Iím not disappointed with the round and if itís not going to be accepted as a 19+9 thatís fine. Itís by far my best round on film so itís still my personal best on film .


I got a new Diana yesterday and am now on a mission to hit a perfect 10 in a row .
19+9 will not do anymore.




Title: Re: Highscores
Post by joe_meadmaker on May 27th, 2023 at 12:46am
15+6

https://youtu.be/Fb4VD6fWPAg

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by Archaic Arms on May 29th, 2023 at 2:26pm
Just got back and saw this.
Fantastic round Joe!
Loved the process of realisation that you just topped your previous record. ;D

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by NooneOfConsequence on Jun 8th, 2023 at 2:56pm
https://youtu.be/a_rHOXgMz1Y

17+8 with 8 consecutive dianas while my kids are trying (eventually successfully) to throw off my concentration 😂
FWIW, the next shot after these 10 was another diana.

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by NooneOfConsequence on Jun 8th, 2023 at 2:58pm
Ö that was 13m.

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by joe_meadmaker on Jun 8th, 2023 at 11:51pm
Awesome round Nooc! :thumb:

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by Mersa on Jun 9th, 2023 at 3:27am
Hell yeah Nooc !!! That was absolutely awesome round!!!

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by Archaic Arms on Jun 12th, 2023 at 5:14pm
Yes that was great! Looked like nothing could stop you with that fantastic streak. 8-)

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by Blindsquirrel on Jun 25th, 2023 at 1:50am
Here is my best 20m round today. I was just out practicing at 20m and shot a 6+1 & a 6+2. Here is the link to the video.
https://youtu.be/HlTQp5Ar90I

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by joe_meadmaker on Jun 25th, 2023 at 3:02pm
Awesome round man! :thumb:

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by Archaic Arms on Jun 26th, 2023 at 1:11pm
Congratulations! A great 20m score. :)

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by IronGoober on Jun 26th, 2023 at 7:51pm
Good work BS!

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by Blindsquirrel on Jun 26th, 2023 at 8:45pm
Thanks all, Iíve been making decent progress with getting my shots straighter, even at the longer distances and will continue to perfect this skill. Now Iím beginning to really focus on becoming laser point accurate with my throw. I want to b able to hit a bowling pin size target 5x in a row at 20+ meters.

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by Mersa on Jun 27th, 2023 at 3:53am
Good work Squiz

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by IronGoober on Aug 13th, 2023 at 8:45pm
Put up a 14(4) at 20m. You'll have to skip past the 13m rounds to see it.

https://youtu.be/-DY0Xe7pv24

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by Mersa on Aug 14th, 2023 at 9:01am
Solid score at 20m

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by joe_meadmaker on Aug 14th, 2023 at 5:54pm
Killer man!  I can't wait for Ibiza and you guys can teach me how to sling.  ;D

Title: Re: Highscores
Post by Archaic Arms on Aug 15th, 2023 at 7:44am
Fantastic 20m round! The fact that it was also done under some  competition pressure makes it all the more impressive.

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