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Message started by joe_meadmaker on May 1st, 2022 at 10:08am

Title: Multi-Pouched Slings Revisited
Post by joe_meadmaker on May 1st, 2022 at 10:08am
I did some more playing around with multi-pouched slings.  I'm doing my best to shorten things up on the length of my videos, so this one was broken into two.  All recording is done.  I just need to cut the second part together, so it will be coming very soon.  Enjoy!

Part 1: https://youtu.be/RlD0XRjhraE

Part 2: https://youtu.be/X2tlgnpMw4A

Original video of sling with multiple pouches: https://youtu.be/geFm-RwZTlo

Title: Re: Multi-Pouched Slings Revisited
Post by Kordwar on May 1st, 2022 at 11:48am
I saw the thumbnail and audibly said "oh my god"

Title: Re: Multi-Pouched Slings Revisited
Post by slingostarr on May 1st, 2022 at 10:39pm
Haha man that is very cool!

I've been interested in shooting multiple rocks at once as well.

A very quick way to get a lot of rocks down range per sling I've found is to make one sling with a really big pouch to hold them all in and stack them all up. Could probably make a leather pouch to hold that many ice balls I would imagine.

I made a big pouch to shoot big handfuls of gravel.

Looking forward to part two 🙂

Title: Re: Multi-Pouched Slings Revisited
Post by Mersa on May 2nd, 2022 at 12:58am
Man I love your videos. Quality content and production

Title: Re: Multi-Pouched Slings Revisited
Post by IronGoober on May 2nd, 2022 at 2:01am
An immediate thought that I had... Byzantine style would help with the tangling. Apache style would eliminate it.   I would love to see you give it a go with the latter. Although you might want to practice with a normal sling first.   

Very interesting. I'm pumped for part 2.

Title: Re: Multi-Pouched Slings Revisited
Post by TOMBELAINE on May 2nd, 2022 at 7:15am
:)
Cool. I love your video.
Perhasp, this technic isn't good. Perhasp ...

Title: Re: Multi-Pouched Slings Revisited
Post by joe_meadmaker on May 2nd, 2022 at 2:17pm
Thanks all!

@Kordwar - Wait until you see the next one.  ;)

@slingostarr - Good idea.  And I have done that.  If you check out my playlist on experimental slings, I've got three videos on scatter (shotgun) slings: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLncv16P831PSJHZLp54PsDv1W9Gl1Z5eE.  One has individual chambers for the ice!

@Mersa - Thanks man!  Cheers!

@IG - Yep, technique wasn't great in this video.  That ended up making the split into two videos make even more sense.  I still jump back and forth, but things improve a lot in the second one.  Along with another surprise.

Isn't Apache normally done with more of an overhand release?  I guess a horizontal version wouldn't be too difficult.  That could definitely be worth a test.  I was originally planning to try a pirouette (even though I'm still terrible with it) but I just burned through ammunition too fast.

@TOMBELAINE - Thanks man.  And fair criticism.  Things get better in the next part.  And I'm getting some ideas so I may need to do a third follow up video.  We'll see!


Almost there.  Editing on Part 2 is going well.  It should be ready by Wednesday night (that's the current hope anyway).

Title: Re: Multi-Pouched Slings Revisited
Post by Duckhands on May 2nd, 2022 at 4:39pm
Yeesh five+ minutes to load? It looked cool on the video to me, now I am wanting to try something similar. Probably just with 3 or 4 pouches at most though. Like one of your older videos, if I remember right.

Title: Re: Multi-Pouched Slings Revisited
Post by joe_meadmaker on May 2nd, 2022 at 8:22pm
Yep, the first one had 4 pouches.

And definitely do it man!  I'd love to hear about your experiences with it.  Maybe see a video.  ;)

If you have any questions on the slings I made or anything, don't hesitate to ask.  You make some really nice slings.  I'm curious what ideas you might come up with to implement!

Title: Re: Multi-Pouched Slings Revisited
Post by Curious Aardvark on May 3rd, 2022 at 7:20am
where's the link to the first video ?

Missed that entirely :-(

But I can think of several ways to improve the sling.

First one is pretty simple.

Have all the pouches along a single length of cord.
You'd need smaller pouchs with a more aggressive cup - a cap paul modified design would work well.

Also be easier to load, hold, throw etc.

The other immediate idea would be a variation on my disc sling pouch, with the interior shaped for the ice balls.
As they'd be open cups you could simply hold all the cords and just drop the balls in - probably take a few seconds as opposed to several minutes.

Definitely interested to see if the four pouch one was better or worse :-)

 

Title: Re: Multi-Pouched Slings Revisited
Post by joe_meadmaker on May 3rd, 2022 at 9:33am

Curious Aardvark wrote on May 3rd, 2022 at 7:20am:
Have all the pouches along a single length of cord.

That's not a bad idea.  I might need to try that.


The 4 pouch sling(s) did work better in my opinion.  That video is my original post, but it's here: https://youtu.be/geFm-RwZTlo


And Part 2 is now also posted: https://youtu.be/X2tlgnpMw4A

Title: Re: Multi-Pouched Slings Revisited
Post by Curious Aardvark on May 3rd, 2022 at 3:28pm
yeah that's a lot more sensible.
Although I lost sound synchronicity at the end.

So it was like you were narrating lol

Anyway, all pouches on one cord won;t work for more then maybe three pouches as the shortest will basically be hanging straight down.

One at the bottom, and 1 either side of the bottom of the cord loop, could work.

Pretty sure ratman and jaegoor have done designs like that.

But with all cords the same length we can definitely make some serious improvements.

To start with, fix the cords together so that they only deviate at either end of the pouch.
That would give it a single release cord and single retention cord.
Which would be easier to both hold and load.

And with a shaped disc-style printed pouch, even easier.

I will, go have a play.   :-)

Title: Re: Multi-Pouched Slings Revisited
Post by joe_meadmaker on May 3rd, 2022 at 11:14pm
I thought about attaching the release cords together at the end.  But I was concerned that because the projectiles need to push through the cord, and having multiple cords tied together would make that more difficult, it could result in a more obstructed release.  It might be totally fine though.  I can actually test that with mine.  All the cord have enough extra length at the end to tie them together.



Curious Aardvark wrote on May 3rd, 2022 at 7:20am:
The other immediate idea would be a variation on my disc sling pouch, with the interior shaped for the ice balls.
As they'd be open cups you could simply hold all the cords and just drop the balls in - probably take a few seconds as opposed to several minutes.

That could be faster, but I doubt by that much.  Most of the loading time was spent untangling cords and getting the all the release cords lined up properly in the hand to keep tangling during the throw to a minimum.  Actually putting an ice ball into a pouch shouldn't take much more time than a cup.  Maybe a couple seconds to make sure it's seated well.  If the sling was set up so cords wouldn't (or couldn't) tangle, that would be the big time saver.


I am looking forward to seeing what you come up with.  I've actually been trying to think of ways to get a cleaner release.  I was thinking about trying a sling with 4 pouches again, but do Y pouches and capture release.  Not sure yet.  That would take a while to put together.

Title: Re: Multi-Pouched Slings Revisited
Post by TOMBELAINE on May 5th, 2022 at 9:36am
Has anyone ever worked on this concept ?
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Title: Re: Multi-Pouched Slings Revisited
Post by Curious Aardvark on May 5th, 2022 at 11:42am
Did it work ?
Certainly an interesting idea:-)

Title: Re: Multi-Pouched Slings Revisited
Post by joe_meadmaker on May 5th, 2022 at 2:33pm
I recall a similar idea coming up before, but not as a multi-pouch.  The idea was just for a solid pouch, and how well it might work.  I meant to try to carve one out of wood but never got around to it.

The picture you have should work.  One thing to note (which you did correctly) is to anchor the "pouch" at all four corners.  If the cords are just connected to the middle on each side, the pouch will just roll over and dump the projectile(s) out.  I experienced that problem in one of the trash sling challenges.  I used the top of a plastic bottle as a pouch.  I initially just connected the cords to a single point and it didn't work at all.  They needed to connect at two points just like you've drawn.

Do you have that plastic piece or is that just a photo you found?  I would also be curious to see how well it works.

Title: Re: Multi-Pouched Slings Revisited
Post by TOMBELAINE on May 6th, 2022 at 2:41am
Curious Aardvark, no, I didn't tested it.

Joe, I saw your second video. You used a box of eggs. This peace of plastic is a refrigerator accessory for laying eggs.  :D

On the other end, it is possible to make identically a rigid pouch in a wooden board. If it works, this solves the problem of many strings.

Not being at my best for the moment, anyone may test this egg box.  :D

Title: Re: Multi-Pouched Slings Revisited
Post by joe_meadmaker on May 6th, 2022 at 12:02pm

TOMBELAINE wrote on May 6th, 2022 at 2:41am:
This peace of plastic is a refrigerator accessory for laying eggs.  :D

;D

That's funny.  I don't think I have one of those in my fridge.  I do have boards though.  I might try putting something together.

Title: Re: Multi-Pouched Slings Revisited
Post by Curious Aardvark on May 6th, 2022 at 2:04pm
piece of thin plywood and a spade drill of the right diameter. take a few minutes :-)

Title: Re: Multi-Pouched Slings Revisited
Post by Rat Man on May 29th, 2022 at 1:27pm
    One of the slings pictured is a double barreled sling I devised years ago.  As long as your ammo is consistent it has a pretty good shot group.  The two pouches can also be used as one to hurl larger projectiles. 
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Title: Re: Multi-Pouched Slings Revisited
Post by joe_meadmaker on May 29th, 2022 at 3:43pm
That's a cool looking sling Rat Man. I saw JudoP post that. Do you know if there are any videos of a throw with that sling floating around out there somewhere?

Title: Re: Multi-Pouched Slings Revisited
Post by Rat Man on May 30th, 2022 at 9:10am
I've never made such videos, unfortunately. I'm not set up to do so.  Maybe JudoP will.

Title: Re: Multi-Pouched Slings Revisited
Post by JudoP on May 30th, 2022 at 9:23am
Perhaps, it's quite rare I get out slinging these days, might be waiting a while!

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