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Message started by Dan on Dec 12th, 2021 at 12:58am

Title: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by Dan on Dec 12th, 2021 at 12:58am
A friend of mine who knew I sling sent me this video of Palestinians slinging tear gas canisters. Pretty interesting seeing the sling's use there in modern times. Also includes a Pirouette figure-8 style you don't see too often. 

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/rdygpy/protesters_dealing_with_gas_canisters/

Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by joe_meadmaker on Dec 12th, 2021 at 1:22am

Dan wrote on Dec 12th, 2021 at 12:58am:
Also includes a Pirouette figure-8 style you don't see too often.

Never even heard of that.  Very cool.  Thank for sharing!

Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by Morphy on Dec 12th, 2021 at 6:38am
First of all those guys are champs for slinging those canisters with the gas coming out. Those masks must be for fashion because I know they aren't stopping the gas at all. The one slinging with that huge shield had it down pretty well. He didnt seem to have any issues. Good find!

Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by David Morningstar on Dec 12th, 2021 at 1:44pm

I absolutely love that pirouette figure-8 style, it looks awesome and I want to try it out. Great find!




Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by Rat Man on Dec 12th, 2021 at 3:23pm
   They have pretty good form.  You can build up a resistance to tear gas.  When I took basic training in 1975 the army must have had a surplus of tear gas.  Our Drill Sergeants gassed us almost every day, often several times a day.  At first we'd holler GAS!! as were were taught to so everyone would mask up.  After a few weeks we just ignored it most of the time. 

Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by Jaegoor on Dec 12th, 2021 at 5:32pm
Es ist Propaganda Scheiße

Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by vetryan15 on Dec 13th, 2021 at 8:23pm
Crazy

Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by NooneOfConsequence on Dec 14th, 2021 at 11:18am

Jaegoor wrote on Dec 12th, 2021 at 5:32pm:
Es ist Propaganda Scheiße


German curse words?   How did this get past the sophisticated language analysis algorithms running on the slinging.org server?!

...and yes. The only time we ever seem to see Palestinian slingers is when they are protesting.  Definitely propaganda, but an interesting slinging style anyway. I don't think accuracy is the main objective for that slinger.

Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by MikeG on Dec 14th, 2021 at 4:30pm

NooneOfConsequence wrote on Dec 14th, 2021 at 11:18am:

Jaegoor wrote on Dec 12th, 2021 at 5:32pm:
Es ist Propaganda Scheiße


German curse words?   How did this get past the sophisticated language analysis algorithms running on the slinging.org server?!

...and yes. The only time we ever seem to see Palestinian slingers is when they are protesting.  Definitely propaganda, but an interesting slinging style anyway. I don't think accuracy is the main objective for that slinger.


Not a serious curse word. It just signalises that he has a very negative opinion about it

Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by Morphy on Dec 14th, 2021 at 8:28pm
Dusts off the politics banhammer  8-)

(I would rather rather eat hammered dog turds than ban someone for a non offensive political post but the above comment lets me use the little sunglasses emoji and makes me feel like I belong in a Clint Eastwood movie. Ive got nothing, give me this one guys )

Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by Jaegoor on Dec 15th, 2021 at 1:59am
Das man über Propaganda Scheiße diskutieren muß? Ich verstehe das nicht. Oh die schleudern aber toll. Hab ich noch nie gesehen. Ja prima. Dann haben sie noch nicht viel gesehen übers schleudern. Toll aufgetürmte Autoreifen und diese dann Effektvoll angezündet. Heroisch, heldenhaft, stupide. Und sie sind immun gegen Gasgranaten. Am besten noch einen alten zerlumpten Mann ohne Beine im Rollstuhl vor einer selbst angezündeten Kulisse. Oh man. Werbung für Behinderten Sport ala Palästina oder was?
Genau solche Bilder braucht die Slinger Fan Gemeinde. Tausendfach geteilter Schwachsinn heroisch kämpfender Vaterlands Patrioten.
Ja. Ich habe eine sehr negative Meinung dazu.
Ich lehne es ab. Verstoße ich mit dieser Meinung gegen irgendwelche Richtlinien des Forums?  Verletze ich damit ehrhafte slinger Tugenden? Wenn ja bitte ich um Löschung meines Profils und meiner gesamten Beiträge. :) :P  8-)

Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by Morphy on Dec 15th, 2021 at 5:51am

Jaegoor wrote on Dec 15th, 2021 at 1:59am:
Das man über Propaganda Scheiße diskutieren muß? Ich verstehe das nicht. Oh die schleudern aber toll. Hab ich noch nie gesehen. Ja prima. Dann haben sie noch nicht viel gesehen übers schleudern. Toll aufgetürmte Autoreifen und diese dann Effektvoll angezündet. Heroisch, heldenhaft, stupide. Und sie sind immun gegen Gasgranaten. Am besten noch einen alten zerlumpten Mann ohne Beine im Rollstuhl vor einer selbst angezündeten Kulisse. Oh man. Werbung für Behinderten Sport ala Palästina oder was?
Genau solche Bilder braucht die Slinger Fan Gemeinde. Tausendfach geteilter Schwachsinn heroisch kämpfender Vaterlands Patrioten.
Ja. Ich habe eine sehr negative Meinung dazu.
Ich lehne es ab. Verstoße ich mit dieser Meinung gegen irgendwelche Richtlinien des Forums?  Verletze ich damit ehrhafte slinger Tugenden? Wenn ja bitte ich um Löschung meines Profils und meiner gesamten Beiträge. :) :P


That propaganda poopy has to be discussed? I do not understand that. Oh, but they spin great. I've never seen that. Great. Then they haven't seen much about the hurling. Car tires piled up great and then lit effectively. Heroic, heroic, stupid. And they're immune to gas grenades. The best is an old, ragged man with no legs in a wheelchair in front of a self-kindled backdrop. Oh man. Advertising for disabled sports ala Palestine or what?
This is exactly what the Slinger fan community needs. Thousands of shared nonsense of heroically fighting patriots patriots.
Yes. I have a very negative opinion about it.
I refuse. Do I violate any forum guidelines by posting this opinion? Do I violate honest slinger virtues? If so, please delete my profile and all of my posts.
Smiley tongue


Its hard to translate jokes sometimes Jaegoor, especially our humor, but mine was definitely a joke. And no I would be the last person in the world to want to ban what you said. Also I am modifying your post to have a sunglasses emoji. These sunglasses are scientifically proven to block 75% more propaganda than other brands.

Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by Jaegoor on Dec 15th, 2021 at 8:47am
8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) :- 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) :P

Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by MikeG on Dec 15th, 2021 at 9:03am
@Morphy
I have put your joke in google translate and the german version is not even close to the original.

Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by Thearos on Dec 15th, 2021 at 12:49pm
The tear gas actually very conveniently allows to follow the trajectory of the sling and the projectile. And yes, good form.

Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by Hirtius on Dec 15th, 2021 at 4:37pm

Morphy wrote on Dec 14th, 2021 at 8:28pm:
Dusts off the politics banhammer  8-)


Honestly I'm surprised that this hasn't been the source of our political woes, it's been all other topics

Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by Morphy on Dec 15th, 2021 at 5:57pm

MikeG wrote on Dec 15th, 2021 at 9:03am:
@Morphy
I have put your joke in google translate and the german version is not even close to the original.


See!!!! Its a conspiracy! This whole time Jaegoor and I were meant to be best buddies but Google translate is conspiring against us.  8-) 8-) 8-)

Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by lobohunter on Dec 19th, 2021 at 7:29pm
That pirorette was so sweet you almost miss it

Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by David Morningstar on Dec 20th, 2021 at 10:11am

I have taken that throw and slowed it down in this little video. This is a private link so dont go chucking it about elsewhere.

https://youtu.be/gSDJndHpuS4


Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by joe_meadmaker on Dec 20th, 2021 at 11:21am
Bravo sir!  I was thinking about trying to do the exact same thing. :thumb:

Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by IronGoober on Dec 20th, 2021 at 11:41am
Yeah...that man really knows his way around a sling. Practiced movements and excellent form.

Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by Morphy on Dec 20th, 2021 at 12:23pm
That was quite an impressive throw. I didnt realize initially the complexity of it until seeing it slowed down.

Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by Mersa on Dec 21st, 2021 at 8:12am
It’s a beautiful throw.

Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by Jaegoor on Dec 22nd, 2021 at 12:16am
Ich bin beeindruckt von eurem staunen. Diese Technik wurde bei slinging bereits vorgestellt. In einer Turnhalle. Es war sportlich wesentlich  komplexer. Es ist auch völlig unerheblich wie toll jemand dieses Video von euch findet. Es ist und bleibt eine sehr schlechte Propaganda. Aber ihr sitzt wie staunende Kleinkinder davor. Das Ziel der Propaganda wurde erreicht.

Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by joe_meadmaker on Dec 22nd, 2021 at 7:53am
If you have another example of this throwing technique, please post a link and we will stop watching the one David posted.  I think for many of us, this is new.

I also disagree that propaganda was achieve.  In this situation, we're not concerned with the slinger's point of view or intentions.  We're simply looking at an impressive sling throw.  It makes no difference who is doing it.

Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by Morphy on Dec 22nd, 2021 at 8:02am

Hirtius wrote on Dec 15th, 2021 at 4:37pm:

Morphy wrote on Dec 14th, 2021 at 8:28pm:
Dusts off the politics banhammer  8-)


Honestly I'm surprised that this hasn't been the source of our political woes, it's been all other topics


;)

Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by IronGoober on Dec 22nd, 2021 at 10:00am

Jaegoor wrote on Dec 22nd, 2021 at 12:16am:
Ich bin beeindruckt von eurem staunen. Diese Technik wurde bei slinging bereits vorgestellt. In einer Turnhalle. Es war sportlich wesentlich  komplexer. Es ist auch völlig unerheblich wie toll jemand dieses Video von euch findet. Es ist und bleibt eine sehr schlechte Propaganda. Aber ihr sitzt wie staunende Kleinkinder davor. Das Ziel der Propaganda wurde erreicht.

I agree with Joe, it does not matter who was slinging, it was an athletic movement. None of us are concerned with anything else other than the fact that it was an impressive display.  Also, Tint showed the same thing years ago, yes, but the this throw was also impressive. That is all. None of us are concerned about anything else.

Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by Jaegoor on Dec 22nd, 2021 at 3:26pm
Leider versteht ihr denn Sinn von Propaganda nicht. Ich werfe niemand eine falsche oder schlechte Gesinnung vor. Diese ist bei Propaganda völlig unerheblich. Alleine es zu teilen , macht es nicht besser. Es ist völlig egal wie man scheiße betrachtet. Nach der Farbe, nach der Form, dem Geruch, der Konsistenz, ihrem Inhalt. Oder geschmack. Es bleibt am Ende immer Scheiße.  ::)  8-)

Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by MikeG on Dec 22nd, 2021 at 4:47pm

Jaegoor wrote on Dec 22nd, 2021 at 3:26pm:
Leider versteht ihr denn Sinn von Propaganda nicht. Ich werfe niemand eine falsche oder schlechte Gesinnung vor. Diese ist bei Propaganda völlig unerheblich. Alleine es zu teilen , macht es nicht besser. Es ist völlig egal wie man scheiße betrachtet. Nach der Farbe, nach der Form, dem Geruch, der Konsistenz, ihrem Inhalt. Oder geschmack. Es bleibt am Ende immer Scheiße.  ::)  8-)


Weise Worte

Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by Kick on Dec 22nd, 2021 at 4:56pm
Jaegoor, if you dislike this so much, you don't have to watch it, you don't have to keep commenting. Your opinion is clear.

Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by vetryan15 on Dec 22nd, 2021 at 4:57pm
Can we all ACT like adults, its the internet

Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by Morphy on Dec 22nd, 2021 at 5:23pm
@Kick +1

@Vet LOL

Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by Jaegoor on Dec 22nd, 2021 at 6:17pm
Müssen tu ich nicht, aber wollen. Warum sollte ich wegschauen? Und solange ihr es bewundert, solange werde ich immer wieder dagegen sprechen. Warum auch nicht. Ich bin erwachsen und dies hier ist das Internet.
Geh ich euch auf die Eier? Gut. Bei manchen ist es der kürzeste Weg zum verstand. So einfach ist das. Warum sollten für mich nicht die selben rechte gelten. Oder für euch? Ihr seid doch auch erwachsen . Und im Internet? Warum hört ihr also nicht auf Propaganda zu bewundern und zu teilen? Warum postet ihr nicht das Video von Tint. Es ist wesentlich anspruchsvoller und bewundernswerter.

Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by vetryan15 on Dec 22nd, 2021 at 7:34pm
It seems that you are the only one getting pissed off and upset about it. Yes MAYBE it was propaganda, but everyone has a different opinion about it. And it seems that you are the only one that sees it that way, which is unfortunate. This thread discussion was pure and simple ONLY about the slinging style, which most of us LIKE to see other cultures use of the sling, and the diffrent styles used. . You need to chill.

Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by Hirtius on Dec 22nd, 2021 at 7:46pm
Jaegoor, there may be an issue of translation, but I’m not sure what the problem is. What is the propaganda? The video itself? The act of using a sling?

More importantly, why should we care? It’s an interesting video.

Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by joe_meadmaker on Dec 22nd, 2021 at 8:06pm
@vetryan15 - Well said.

Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by Morphy on Dec 22nd, 2021 at 8:18pm
Well Hirtius, if you ever get bored of your day job I'd say you have a real shot at being a psychic.

Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by Jaegoor on Dec 22nd, 2021 at 8:22pm
Ein Erwachsener würde einen Unterschied erkennen. 8-)
Bin ich der einzige? Unter euch vielleicht.
Slinging org. Möchte international das slingen repräsentieren. Dafür ist ein Propaganda Image natürlich besonders wichtig. Der letzte Satz war reine Ironie.
Nein. Es wäre wichtig, sich davon zu distanzieren.

Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by Hirtius on Dec 22nd, 2021 at 8:29pm

Morphy wrote on Dec 22nd, 2021 at 8:18pm:
Well Hirtius, if you ever get bored of your day job I'd say you have a real shot at being a psychic.


Shared confusion transcends all barriers.

Speaking of which… Jaegoor, I think something was lost in translation. You didn’t clarify what you were saying.

If you’re worried about the reputation of the sling when used by protestors… most people still don’t know what slings are. The slings don’t do much harm since they aren’t experienced slingers, they’re using them as more of a statement. They’re going for the David and Goliath imagery. The only damage to the reputation of slings has been in Israel itself, but that’s more of targeting the protesters instead of the weapon itself.

Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by vetryan15 on Dec 22nd, 2021 at 9:17pm
Are you seriously calling us children? I hope the translation got mixed up. If it isnt,  then  thats a problem. And unacceptable

Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by Kick on Dec 23rd, 2021 at 3:43am
Trajan's column is also propaganda, the video from the Spanish Civil war slingers throwing grenades have not been an issue and there have been no problems discussing it previously. Surely in representing the sling internationally it is possible to discuss all representations of the sling impartially. From the outset, this discussion was flagged as apolitical. We can point to Tint's video, but that was someone experimenting with different throws in a gym. It's very different to see this unusual style being used "in the wild" and so is of some note and is interesting to discuss. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this post.

Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by David Morningstar on Dec 23rd, 2021 at 4:06am

Don't mind me, I'm just posting Greek propaganda...
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Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by Jaegoor on Dec 23rd, 2021 at 5:02am
Verharmlosung ist ebenfalls ein Ziel von diesem Video. Alles nicht so schlimm. Schade das sie es nicht verstehen wollen. Oder können.  Es gibt auch einen Unterschied zwischen Dokumentation und Propaganda. Auch reflektierte Geschichte ist etwas anderes. Zur damaligen Zeit war es Propaganda. Römer waren Meister darin. Sehr gut erkannt. Heute macht es natürlich gar keinen Unterschied. Oh man. Luis trainiert auch in einem Fitness Studio. Gerade weil es Tint in einen sportlichen Kontext setzt, ist sein Video um ein Vielfaches besser. Es geht auch nicht um meine Argumente. Diese interessieren sie gar nicht. Es geht um meine Person. Und ich bin nun mal ein Arsch. Mehr wollen sie sie nicht wissen.
8-) 8-) 8-) ich nenne es armselig.

Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by MikeG on Dec 23rd, 2021 at 6:06am

vetryan15 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2021 at 7:34pm:
It seems that you are the only one getting pissed off and upset about it. Yes MAYBE it was propaganda, but everyone has a different opinion about it. And it seems that you are the only one that sees it that way, which is unfortunate. This thread discussion was pure and simple ONLY about the slinging style, which most of us LIKE to see other cultures use of the sling, and the diffrent styles used. . You need to chill.


He is not the only one.

Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by MikeG on Dec 23rd, 2021 at 6:08am

vetryan15 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2021 at 9:17pm:
Are you seriously calling us children? I hope the translation got mixed up. If it isnt,  then  thats a problem. And unacceptable


calling your behavior childish isn't wrong. Speaking the truth isn't a bad thing to do

Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by MikeG on Dec 23rd, 2021 at 6:10am

David Morningstar wrote on Dec 23rd, 2021 at 4:06am:
Don't mind me, I'm just posting Greek propaganda...


stop making fun of this, that is not helping anyone

Title: Re: New Palestinian Slinging Video
Post by Morphy on Dec 23rd, 2021 at 6:17am
I am one of the biggest proponents of fiery discussions on this forum but theres a way to do it and a way not to. Calling people childish when you disagree with them falls firmly into the "way not to" column. Please feel free to reread the forum rules, specifically the ones on abusive language.

For now let's go ahead and lock this very controversial thread of a man slinging something on a slinging forum. I know that's quite a sensitive subject. Let's give it a few days and then see if we can come back with cooler heads shall we?

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