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Message started by Kilisi on Nov 11th, 2020 at 4:11am

Title: USA sling hunting style?
Post by Kilisi on Nov 11th, 2020 at 4:11am
Watched this video and the chap reckons you can hunt some food like this and lots of positive comments. What is this throwing style called? I assume he's throwing low power, because I could throw harder with my arm I reckon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EE_Va-OMkqU

Title: Re: USA sling hunting style?
Post by TOMBELAINE on Nov 11th, 2020 at 5:38am
I think that he's a "youtube expert" because his throwing is too long to hunt.

Title: Re: USA sling hunting style?
Post by Kick on Nov 11th, 2020 at 7:14am
I've sometimes seen that technique called "fig. 8" but that isn't what us on this forum mean when we say fig. 8. It's not a good style for hunting I would say though I have found it to be pretty good for accuracy. This is one of those videos where a "survivalist" needs content for his channel, finds out about slings and thinks "that looks easy", makes a video full of information he got skim reading some survivalist forum written by people that once saw a sling in a picture of David and Goliath, shows him using a sling for 10  mins or so and then sits back and waits for clicks. I don't like videos like this. Yeah, ok it might get someone interested and then they'll find some actually good information on the sling, but a lot of the time it just spreads misinformation and doesn't show the sling's full potential.

Title: Re: USA sling hunting style?
Post by joe_meadmaker on Nov 11th, 2020 at 7:55am
I've never understood that method of slinging.  I see why someone might call it a figure 8.  But that rotation back and forth on either side of the body doesn't do anything except make it impossible to use your full arm and shoulder for the throw.



a wrote on Nov 11th, 2020 at 4:11am:
I could throw harder with my arm I reckon.

You definitely could.

Title: Re: USA sling hunting style?
Post by Slyngorm on Nov 11th, 2020 at 1:54pm
In another of videos he says that they use this style in Israel

Title: Re: USA sling hunting style?
Post by Morphy on Nov 11th, 2020 at 4:39pm

TOMBELAINE wrote on Nov 11th, 2020 at 5:38am:
I think that he's a "youtube expert" because his throwing is too long to hunt.


YouTube expert is a good term for that. The problem with these channels that cover such a wide range of topics is by default they can't spend all that much time training any one skill.

But that being said good on him for spreading awareness of the sling I don't have anything against the man personally but these channels are often more entertainment than information. In a real survival situation I would do almost anything with that paracord before I made a sling with it.

The sling should be named the "Starvation Buddy". It will keep you company while you waste away but the chances of anyone who's not put in many years using it to get game is pretty darn slim.

Title: Re: USA sling hunting style?
Post by Jaegoor on Nov 11th, 2020 at 5:34pm
Sorry das zu sagen. Das ist amerikanischer Blödsinn. Er würde verhungern.

Title: Re: USA sling hunting style?
Post by Kilisi on Nov 11th, 2020 at 10:07pm

Morphy wrote on Nov 11th, 2020 at 4:39pm:
chances of anyone who's not put in many years using it

I agree, you can't just make a sling and then go hunting you need experience with three things.... how to hunt, and how to sling, and how to use a sling for hunting (slings are useful in hunting even without hitting the animal, much like useful in herding without hitting the animals I guess.)

Title: Re: USA sling hunting style?
Post by NooneOfConsequence on Nov 11th, 2020 at 10:32pm

Slyngorm wrote on Nov 11th, 2020 at 1:54pm:
In another of videos he says that they use this style in Israel


In the world of “tacticool,” if they do something in Israel, then it’s more “tactical” than the way you do it. Swinging a sling like nunchucks? That’s dumb. But “Israeli figure-eight”... that’s tactical! Kicking people in the crotch? cheap shot.  Kicking people in the crotch and calling it Krav Maga? Totally tactical... because Israel.

I honestly don’t think Israelis actually do half the stuff people say comes from Israel. It’s just a cheap way for someone to claim that something is more legitimate for self defense... even if it isn’t.

Title: Re: USA sling hunting style?
Post by NooneOfConsequence on Nov 11th, 2020 at 10:42pm

a wrote on Nov 11th, 2020 at 10:07pm:

Morphy wrote on Nov 11th, 2020 at 4:39pm:
chances of anyone who's not put in many years using it

I agree, you can't just make a sling and then go hunting you need experience with three things.... how to hunt, and how to sling, and how to use a sling for hunting (slings are useful in hunting even without hitting the animal, much like useful in herding without hitting the animals I guess.)


You’re forgetting the most important part of sling hunting... RAZOR GLANDES! ;D

Title: Re: USA sling hunting style?
Post by Kilisi on Nov 11th, 2020 at 10:50pm

NooneOfConsequence wrote on Nov 11th, 2020 at 10:32pm:
do half the stuff people say comes from Israel.

I just can't see Goliath getting killed by this shot

Title: Re: USA sling hunting style?
Post by Shakli on Nov 12th, 2020 at 1:15am

NooneOfConsequence wrote on Nov 11th, 2020 at 10:32pm:

Slyngorm wrote on Nov 11th, 2020 at 1:54pm:
In another of videos he says that they use this style in Israel


In the world of “tacticool,” if they do something in Israel, then it’s more “tactical” than the way you do it. Swinging a sling like nunchucks? That’s dumb. But “Israeli figure-eight”... that’s tactical! Kicking people in the crotch? cheap shot.  Kicking people in the crotch and calling it Krav Maga? Totally tactical... because Israel.

I honestly don’t think Israelis actually do half the stuff people say comes from Israel. It’s just a cheap way for someone to claim that something is more legitimate for self defense... even if it isn’t.



Ok did a deep dive into the sling in Israel....  Fact is it seems to have gotten lost in history!
It came back in the 1980's when Ethiopians escaping Africa immigrated on mass to Israel.  They bring with them the sling.  So at this point any one slinging in "Israel style" is actually Ethiopian style which is NOT what is in the video.

Title: Re: USA sling hunting style?
Post by Jaegoor on Nov 12th, 2020 at 3:12am
Ethiopian style.  Simply delicious.  After all, being stupid also needs a name.

Title: Re: USA sling hunting style?
Post by Morphy on Nov 12th, 2020 at 3:17am

a wrote on Nov 11th, 2020 at 10:07pm:

Morphy wrote on Nov 11th, 2020 at 4:39pm:
chances of anyone who's not put in many years using it

I agree, you can't just make a sling and then go hunting you need experience with three things.... how to hunt, and how to sling, and how to use a sling for hunting (slings are useful in hunting even without hitting the animal, much like useful in herding without hitting the animals I guess.)


Thank you and as you pointed out it isn't just the slinging that needs practice. So true.

Title: Re: USA sling hunting style?
Post by Kick on Nov 12th, 2020 at 3:58am

NooneOfConsequence wrote on Nov 11th, 2020 at 10:32pm:
In the world of “tacticool,” if they do something in Israel, then it’s more “tactical” than the way you do it. Swinging a sling like nunchucks? That’s dumb. But “Israeli figure-eight”... that’s tactical! Kicking people in the crotch? cheap shot.  Kicking people in the crotch and calling it Krav Maga? Totally tactical... because Israel.

I honestly don’t think Israelis actually do half the stuff people say comes from Israel. It’s just a cheap way for someone to claim that something is more legitimate for self defense... even if it isn’t.

This is very true. Also, are Isrealis known really for slinging anymore? Palestinians, yeah but they use super long slings and helicopter so...

Title: Re: USA sling hunting style?
Post by Kilisi on Nov 12th, 2020 at 4:42am

Kick wrote on Nov 12th, 2020 at 3:58am:
Palestinians, yeah but they use super long slings and helicopter

From the 2 videos I've seen, Palestinians don't actually aim.... so not very useful for hunting ;)

Title: Re: USA sling hunting style?
Post by CrazyBrave333? on Nov 12th, 2020 at 2:35pm

NooneOfConsequence wrote on Nov 11th, 2020 at 10:32pm:

Slyngorm wrote on Nov 11th, 2020 at 1:54pm:
In another of videos he says that they use this style in Israel


In the world of “tacticool,” if they do something in Israel, then it’s more “tactical” than the way you do it. Swinging a sling like nunchucks? That’s dumb. But “Israeli figure-eight”... that’s tactical! Kicking people in the crotch? cheap shot.  Kicking people in the crotch and calling it Krav Maga? Totally tactical... because Israel.

I honestly don’t think Israelis actually do half the stuff people say comes from Israel. It’s just a cheap way for someone to claim that something is more legitimate for self defense... even if it isn’t.


Very good points- except one- Kraft Maga is freaking awesome. There is no such thing as a “cheap shot” when it’s about safety and survival... I agree it’s a very ‘crotch heavy’ system- but if it works it works...

Title: Re: USA sling hunting style?
Post by Slyngorm on Nov 12th, 2020 at 3:26pm
Not useful for hunting but I made a meteor hammer (i.e. a bolt at the end of a string) and used this method figuring it was good for keeping opponents at a distance while also enabling you to suddenly launch it at someone.

Title: Re: USA sling hunting style?
Post by Kick on Nov 12th, 2020 at 3:57pm
You should see NooneOfConsequence's monkey fists. It's basically the same idea but far more aesthetically pleasing :D

Title: Re: USA sling hunting style?
Post by Rat Man on Nov 12th, 2020 at 6:27pm
   One thing I did like about the video.  He gave very clear, concise instructions on how to quickly make a very functional paracord sling.  As far as the hunting thing, I agree with Jaegoor. 

Title: Re: USA sling hunting style?
Post by Slyngorm on Nov 13th, 2020 at 3:56am

NooneOfConsequence wrote on Nov 11th, 2020 at 10:32pm:
tacticool

Isn't that some sort of cheap military gear?




Kick wrote on Nov 12th, 2020 at 3:57pm:
You should see NooneOfConsequence's monkey fists. It's basically the same idea but far more aesthetically pleasing :D

Definitely will.

Title: Re: USA sling hunting style?
Post by Kick on Nov 13th, 2020 at 4:14am

Slyngorm wrote on Nov 13th, 2020 at 3:56am:
Isn't that some sort of cheap military gear?

It's anything that's designed to look "military" to people that have seen military things in films. It's pretty much always black (for... stealth I guess?) and almost always cheap and falls apart instantly.

Title: Re: USA sling hunting style?
Post by NooneOfConsequence on Nov 13th, 2020 at 2:08pm

Kick wrote on Nov 13th, 2020 at 4:14am:

Slyngorm wrote on Nov 13th, 2020 at 3:56am:
Isn't that some sort of cheap military gear?

It's anything that's designed to look "military" to people that have seen military things in films. It's pretty much always black (for... stealth I guess?) and almost always cheap and falls apart instantly.


It’s not about something being cheap or not. I would define “tacticool” as anything that looks like it was designed for tactical use but where the appearance is more important than the function.  By that definition you can also have real tactical gear that people only buy to portray a certain image. Usually “tacticool” also implies that the person has no idea how to actually use the equipment.

Title: Re: USA sling hunting style?
Post by walter on Nov 13th, 2020 at 8:03pm
USA sling hunting style? No :o

Title: Re: USA sling hunting style?
Post by Morphy on Nov 14th, 2020 at 6:10am
We already got stuck with American cheese I'm going to pass on that being our national style.

Title: Re: USA sling hunting style?
Post by Kick on Nov 14th, 2020 at 7:47am

NooneOfConsequence wrote on Nov 13th, 2020 at 2:08pm:

Kick wrote on Nov 13th, 2020 at 4:14am:

Slyngorm wrote on Nov 13th, 2020 at 3:56am:
Isn't that some sort of cheap military gear?

It's anything that's designed to look "military" to people that have seen military things in films. It's pretty much always black (for... stealth I guess?) and almost always cheap and falls apart instantly.


It’s not about something being cheap or not. I would define “tacticool” as anything that looks like it was designed for tactical use but where the appearance is more important than the function.  By that definition you can also have real tactical gear that people only buy to portray a certain image. Usually “tacticool” also implies that the person has no idea how to actually use the equipment.

That's a good point actually yeah. The number of "tacticool" knives that don't look like anyone could even hold them let alone use them.

Title: Re: USA sling hunting style?
Post by Kilisi on Nov 15th, 2020 at 11:52pm

Morphy wrote on Nov 14th, 2020 at 6:10am:
We already got stuck with American cheese

What on earth is in that stuff anyway. We got a big bag last time the mother in law came from American Samoa. I tried to feed it to the dogs, but even they didn't want it.

Title: Re: USA sling hunting style?
Post by Morphy on Nov 16th, 2020 at 5:52am

a wrote on Nov 15th, 2020 at 11:52pm:

Morphy wrote on Nov 14th, 2020 at 6:10am:
We already got stuck with American cheese

What on earth is in that stuff anyway. We got a big bag last time the mother in law came from American Samoa. I tried to feed it to the dogs, but even they didn't want it.


Technically no one knows what it is. I suspect it's whatever recycling didn't make the it back into bottles or cans,  ground up and added to cheese flavoring. Just my guess though.

Your dogs are smart. Give me a good sharp Swiss any day.  :D

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