I finally got some 6oz. lead fishing weights and got them flying. The video took a while to get ready due to technical problems that then meant I had to download and learn an entirely new for me (and actually better) video editing program. I recommend Shotcut by the way. It's pretty nifty and free!

But anyway, lead was very fun to sling but... I don't think I'm a convert. I just love the raw destructive power of rocks too much. Still, I have some ideas for the glandes still...

https://youtu.be/inAHpMRY3cs

That was cool, I would have thought they'd do more damage, they look lethal.

Nice Kick!  I was a little surprised by the (lack of) damage, but not much.  The softness of the lead definitely coming in to play with the impacts.  The hit at 1:57 that cracked the board in two was awesome!



Kick wrote on Nov 1^st, 2020 at 3:41pm:

I recommend Shotcut by the way. It's pretty nifty and free!

This is what I use as well. :)

joe_meadmaker wrote on Nov 1^st, 2020 at 6:45pm:

The hit at 1:57 that cracked the board in two was awesome!

It was helped along by the previous staff sling hits. It was almost completely folded over before so yeah.


a wrote on Nov 1^st, 2020 at 6:23pm:

I would have thought they'd do more damage, they look lethal.

I do want to have a go on a soft target and with the staff sling because I think that will work much better and really let them shine. I wasn't slinging full power just because I didn't want to lose them, but it was crazy to see how much they deformed. I knew lead was soft, but it was a surprise. I think I prefer my granite rocks overall. A lot of the rocks I've been using are also heavier than 170g, particularly the ones I use for the staff sling of which some are more than 300g.

I would like to sling lead but my cheapness forbids me.  I find golf balls laying around the places I walk the dogs and stones are free.  Good video. 

Are you shooting with the red streamers ? If so, the latter must exert considerable drag

(and are you not nervous with all those people walking around ? I'm sure the lens makes them look closer, but unfortunate richochets can happen).

I added the red wool to help with finding them and it really helped. Even so, I lost two out there which was very annoying. I don't think they added much drag, it's just light wool.

You aren't the first to express concern :D You're right though, the camera makes them look a lot closer. No-one was in any danger, even from a ricochet. I've been slinging there a long time now with tennis nalls, stones and now lead and nothing has ever landed  anywhere near the path. The angle is very deceptive. I would love to have a more remote area to use, but this is the best I have so I have people walking past occasionally. We're moving actually fairly soon so hopefully I'll find something better. A good slinging spot is top of the list of requirements :D

This is why tungsten is such a good material, denser than lead and harder than steel.

Tungsten probably is the perfect sling ammo material for those reasons. I really wasn't expecting lead to be so soft. I of course knew it was a soft metal but they really got mushed with even low power shots.

It is still dangerous.  Nobody would do that with a gun.  Well, maybe a couple of Texans.  😁

I bet the light wool streamers add a significant amount of drag, but I don't know if any of the old-timers who were physics and maths mavens are still here.

The issue of lack of damage very likely is due to the lack of power put into each throw. At that speed, it appears ur more lobbing them onto the target rather than firing them at a more flat trajectory to hit the target straight on with minimal arc. I'm pretty new but I prefer flat trajectories with more power behind it, of course I'm nowhere near as accurate as u are kick but if looking for damage I think that is a better bet. It would take me a ton of tries to hit in comparison though on a flat trajectory  :P

https://youtu.be/15p3CKnzKGo
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Gutes schießen kick ;)

Foresight17 wrote on Jan 10^th, 2022 at 3:29am:

The issue of lack of damage very likely is due to the lack of power put into each throw. At that speed, it appears ur more lobbing them onto the target rather than firing them at a more flat trajectory to hit the target straight on with minimal arc. I'm pretty new but I prefer flat trajectories with more power behind it, of course I'm nowhere near as accurate as u are kick but if looking for damage I think that is a better bet. It would take me a ton of tries to hit in comparison though on a flat trajectory  :P

Well I'm not all that accurate and yeah I'm definitely not the most powerful slinger, but I think really the problem was that I was shooting against metal and wood and I overestimated lead's capabilities. The deformation of the lead shows there is sufficient power if not maximum power, but the lead is too soft to impart it into metal and wood. Lead I think is most useful against soft targets as Jaegoor's video shows. Lead against hard targets does have an effect of course, but a lot of the energy is absorbed by the bullet on impact. I've thrown a steel plumb bob that left a very deep dent in the pan, almost piercing through it which I don't believe lead would ever be able to do unless you are slinging at bullet like speed.

I agree kick . Lead is dense but not hard.
I’ve always liked the idea of tungsten glandes . They would be small, dense, sharp, maybe slightly too difficult to manufacture but id definitely buy some if I could.

I do love how lead flys . It’s a very straight shot with lead.

So. Noch ein paar Worte von mir. Blei ist nicht gleich Blei.
Es gibt reines Blei. Oder auch Weichblei genannt. Und es gibt Hartblei. Das ist eine legierung mit Antonium
Hartblei verformt sich nicht so schnell.
Historische Glandes waren fast nie reines Blei.
Auch die Form der Glandes war entscheidend. Ebenso das Gewicht

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:o die Platte ist eines meiner Flugziele.

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Die Glandes sind Replika. Die originale  wurden auf dem septimer Pass gefunden. In der Schweiz.

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Und noch mehr.
Die dicken Brummer fand man auf Ibiza

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Noch etwas besonderes. Diese Glandes sind pulverbeschichtet.
Sie sind für Filmaufnahmen.

Und noch etwas. Slings waren Fernwaffen. Sie konnten auf große Distanzen wirken. Unser amerikanischer Freund Paracord vertritt in einem seiner Videos eine andere Theorien.

Ich kann ein Blei sehr hoch schießen. Sie fallen dann mit 9,81 m sec im Quadrat.
Das wurde sehr oft praktiziert. Glandes können unterschiedlich verschossen werden. Spitz, dann dringen sie ein. Römische Ärzte benutzten eine spezielle Zange für eine extrahierung. Quer. Das hat eine sehr hohe Mann Stop Wirkung. Und verursacht schwere Brüche und Traumata Verletzungen.
Und man kann sie so verschießen, das sie rotieren. Die Reichweite wird verkürzt. Das Geschoss macht einen schrecklichen Ton. Quer Schläger bei einem Aufschlag sind häufiger.
Glandes schießen müssen sie trainieren. Immer und immer wieder.

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Diese Geschosse haben keine historischen Vorbilder. Es ist eine Studie von mir . Sie machen viel Spaß

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Mein schwerstes Blei. 200g
Ich liebe es. :D

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Jaegoor wrote on Jan 10^th, 2022 at 5:50pm:

My heaviest lead. 200g I love it.

That thing is a monster!!! Looks fun.

200 g is right on the money. What are it’s dimensions

Oh! Hard lead is the kind used on lead hammer heads right?

Ja . Und in Munition.

Ah I didn't realise there was variations. In that case I'll revise what I said: fishing weight lead is no good against hard targets :D

Kick, ich finde du machst es genau richtig. Gutes Blei bekommt man manchmal auf Schießplätzen.
Hier ist das schießen von Blei verboten. Man darf nur noch auf dafür ausgerüsteten Anlagen mit Blei schießen. Es ist sinnvoll.
Blei gehört nicht in die Natur gepumpt.
Wichtig für dein Training. Power kommt später. Achte zuerst auf deine Technik.
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