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Message started by jauke on Jul 21st, 2020 at 5:22am

Title: Bark Cloth
Post by jauke on Jul 21st, 2020 at 5:22am
Nature's natural-grown weave

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhznFtHhkBo

Title: Re: Bark Cloth
Post by slingbadger on Jul 21st, 2020 at 6:25am
Blocked.


Title: Re: Bark Cloth
Post by jauke on Jul 21st, 2020 at 7:27am

slingbadger wrote on Jul 21st, 2020 at 6:25am:
Blocked.


Like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhznFtHhkBo

Title: Re: Bark Cloth
Post by Morphy on Jul 21st, 2020 at 9:27am
Iíve always wondered how the trees donít die being completely stripped of bark. Pretty amazing stuff though. First thing that comes to mind for me would be stone pouch and quiver.

Title: Re: Bark Cloth
Post by Kick on Jul 21st, 2020 at 10:48am
Talking of bark clothing...

https://www.google.com/search?q=birch+bark+shoes&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjN5-zHyt7qAhWdBhAIHQeOBeEQ_AUoAXoECA8QAw&biw=1536&bih=754

An old Finnish craft (well a lot of Nordic countries I think) is to make stuff out of birch bark by weaving it together. I still haven't made a sling out of birch bark but it's on the list. At the very least I would want to have a go at making a birch bark ammo pouch.

Title: Re: Bark Cloth
Post by Rat Man on Jul 21st, 2020 at 1:29pm
    I wonder what trees in North America could be used for this purpose.  I would very much expect that the trees die after being stripped of bark.

Title: Re: Bark Cloth
Post by Kick on Jul 21st, 2020 at 4:51pm
If you cut the bark right, birch can survive it.

Title: Re: Bark Cloth
Post by Mersa on Jul 21st, 2020 at 6:08pm
If you damage the cambium the tree will likely die or have a reduced vitality. Contact a local tree worker Iím sure they wouldnít mind if you stripped bark from some trees that they intended to dismantle/remove. Donít do this on trees that would be retained.

Title: Re: Bark Cloth
Post by Way of the Sling on Jul 21st, 2020 at 7:10pm
Very interesting, would love to make some of that as well as know how durable it is.
Thank you for sharing.

Title: Re: Bark Cloth
Post by Morphy on Jul 22nd, 2020 at 1:03pm
I believe Iíve read that some African cultures would beat the bark off a baobab limb to the point that it would slip off the branch in one piece for making a quiver. I kind of wonder if that would work with other trees. That would be a pretty cool way to make a quiver.

Title: Re: Bark Cloth
Post by Mersa on Jul 22nd, 2020 at 5:43pm
Definitely can beat bark off certain trees in a perfect cylinder. Of corse you need to be able to slide it off so again Iíll state

Call a local tree worker and use material that has already been condemned.

DO NOT do this to living trees that you donít own or intend to keep.

Title: Re: Bark Cloth
Post by Morphy on Jul 22nd, 2020 at 7:33pm

Mersa wrote on Jul 22nd, 2020 at 5:43pm:
Definitely can beat bark off certain trees in a perfect cylinder. Of corse you need to be able to slide it off so again Iíll state

Call a local tree worker and use material that has already been condemned.

DO NOT do this to living trees that you donít own or intend to keep.


That is one thing about shows like naked and afraid where the contestants will cut down a sizable fruit tree just to get a handful of fruit. I get that itís survival but if indigenous people survived like that they would quickly end up with no resources at all.

I think with something like the quiver you could get away with just using a branch or something. Maybe not the best but at least you donít end up cutting down a whole tree so thereís that.

Title: Re: Bark Cloth
Post by Mersa on Jul 22nd, 2020 at 7:58pm
There are enough trees being cut down in suburban environments as it is, tree workers will likely be pleased if you come and give them a helping hand and remove some of their ďwasteĒ as payment. This goes for fire wood , bow staves, Flowers, bark fiber, etc. You wouldnít believe the amount of good materials we throw through a wood chipper. In Germany a lot of the sizeable pieces are taken to the saw mill, and the smaller debris is chipped and then used in furnaces to make power. Quite a resource thatís largely untouched in Australia. Here itís pretty much all turned into mulch and left to decompose, then sometimes used as garden mulch. Almost criminal when you know what beautiful straight solid timber goes in to make something thatís not in demand like garden mulch. Sometimes I try to take good wood home but itís not overly practical a lot of the time.

If you have interests in woodworking and other plant based resources I would recommend getting in contact with a local tree worker. You never know what you might score for nothing.

Title: Re: Bark Cloth
Post by Kick on Jul 23rd, 2020 at 3:20am
A lot of trees got cut down around our area during recent landscaping and they simply left the cut up branches and trunks lying pretty much where they fell. They were there for a good few weeks before they sent a big truck to throw them in the back off so, before they did that, I grabbed a big trunk and carried it home :D It's now been sitting on the balcony for a while and I'm hoping next year to try and fashion a throwing stick out of it, one of the large style ones. It was almost certainly just going to be chipped or pulped so I thought I would give it a slightly more interesting life before it ends up back in the dirt :D I'm not sure what type of wood it is and I have no idea if it'll be any good for a throwing stick but hey it'll be good practice on free material :D

Title: Re: Bark Cloth
Post by Kilisi on Nov 20th, 2020 at 7:23am
We call it siapo, it's very labour intensive to make. Most Pacific Islands made it or still do, and used it for clothing, they call it tapa. Paper Mulberry tree is the main one used, and it's cut down and the bark taken off it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tapa_cloth

Title: Re: Bark Cloth
Post by vetryan15 on Nov 20th, 2020 at 1:12pm
In response to birch, i just dropped a huge dead triplet on my land, i stripped as much bark off for future projects, but the tree had to be over 50+ years old. I used the wood for firewood,  and bow staves drying right now.ido plan on sending some birch bark with my SITH this year.

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