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Message started by funditor on May 1st, 2020 at 3:16am

Title: Trajan column rernactment
Post by funditor on May 1st, 2020 at 3:16am
Roman Auxiliary Funditor Slinger Impression at home
Being the sling World Champion this year this seemed suitable

Equipment general and position is based on Trajans Column by Cichorius
Sling bullets weight shape, material and preparation are based on Lambaesis finds 120g
Sling is based on Egyptian find.
Three thoughts came up during posing:
- Sling Grip was taken shorter as sling length is very short depicted for both slingers on the relief, and also for the one on Marcus column. Perhaps they used really heavy projectiles?
- Generally the position seems very active
The shield far away from the body is very straining for posing, but this position could be a snapshot of the throwing process, which involves the shoulders and also the left hand if you want to generate good force. Also the sling pointing backwards is only possible in movement
- The rather cloak of wool was well suited to hold the bullets, they remained safely in the fold in principle, as the cloak part on the other hand of the arm has a sufficient counterweight. Only the display of the bullets to the audience is difficult, as they easily fall out when viisible from outside. This is probably only for audience display reasons. Also the size of the projectiles in the pocket looks much smaller than the one in the sling.
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Title: Re: Trajan column rernactment
Post by funditor on May 1st, 2020 at 3:17am
Here the section as published by Cichorius
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Title: Re: Trajan column rernactment
Post by Kick on May 1st, 2020 at 7:34am
Awesome! They would definitely have been lucky to have such a good slinger on their side :D

Title: Re: Trajan column rernactment
Post by Curious Aardvark on May 1st, 2020 at 3:46pm
sling length most likely artistic licence.

Cool pose !

I would say what idiot would go into battle barefoot - But Uwe is not an idiot :-)

Still, lots of sharp and pointy things on a battlefield.

Tghat chest high ammo holder is also interesting. That crops up on quite a few pictures.
Guess it was a 'thing', just doesn't look practical to me.

How does it work when you move about ?

Title: Re: Trajan column rernactment
Post by Kick on Nov 17th, 2021 at 7:11am
I completely forgot that you had done this recreation! I was thinking of doing similar. At least I was going to see how easy holding ammo in a cloak and reloading is. Having tried it a little, I can see it actually works very well. Holding the shield up and an arm full of stones... I can't see that, not for any long period of time and I can't see it making sense in a battle. The good thing with the cloak pocket is that you can access stones without having to dig around in a bag which would be difficult with a cloak on, so perfect for colder weather fighting. Holding the arm to the chest also closes the pocket very well and is really very secure. I can easily see running around a battle to be possible like this, particularly after some practice. I plan on making a video soon.

Title: Re: Trajan column rernactment
Post by funditor on Nov 17th, 2021 at 10:43am
Moving around works quite good in general.

The shield arm plus projectile weight is extremely heavy and cannot be held over an extended period of time this way. And I had only a small shield. My estimate is to show there are projectiles behind the shield, or during a forceful throw, where the left hanf is extended to add momentum ti the torso/shoulder belt rotation.
Probably barefoot is not a choice, but a lack of ressources, as shoes are expensive and used up every two month walkingnaround by an average Roman military member.

Title: Re: Trajan column rernactment
Post by funditor on Nov 17th, 2021 at 10:48am
For the sling lenth I see it differently. A heavier stone requires a shorter sling. Also on the Marcus column thebsling is short, and the projectile seems large. I alung 500g stones and felt it tore my wrist almost apart with my 65cm sling. Also the assyrian slings seem rather short, and they used in Lachish 300g balls, compared to the greek that shoot these lighter 20-70 lead glandes, and have longer slings according to the Ainanian and Pisidian coins.

Title: Re: Trajan column rernactment
Post by Kick on Nov 17th, 2021 at 11:31am
One thing with sling length is the medium though. Carved stone can't be too long and thin so that might play a factor. I can see them making the slings shorter to ensure the carving survived. Forum » Powered by YaBB 2.5.2!
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