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Message started by The Celestial Paladin on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 12:52am

Title: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by The Celestial Paladin on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 12:52am
I’m posting this “rant” because I’ve seen people conjecture about this on the internet and kinda found it bizarre that I suddenly remember it for some reason.

I can’t imagine this works at all, heck I tried it back in my early days and couldn’t say I was impressed.
But maybe somebody could design a projectile that breaks up in flight rather than stuffing a pouch-full of  pebbles or bbs that might as well be nerf darts. Then again I doubt any form of this works to any lethal level, but it might be cool if it could be done.

I don’t know, how would you use a sling that could shoot like a shotty? I mean again you might as well grab a fistful of pebbles as if we were to compare a sling to any gun it would be like a handgun in practical use and in the hands of an elite user; a sniper. Point is range, why midi gate a sling’s advantage over something that is quite frankly funny looking?

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by NooneOfConsequence on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 1:38am
I suppose you could use a shot cup like a shotgun does to keep the shot together a bit longer. Sounds like something someone here might try out.

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by TheJackinati on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 7:12am
I believe that the whistling rounded glandes found at Burnswark were very likely shotgunned out.

A question arises if you were throwing them singularly, Why the round shape? Particularly when Biconical shapes are both very common and likely the dominant style of shot?

There are Greek glandes which are in Biconical shape which have very similar hole placements, and are about 30-40 grams.

I believe they used a round shape, because they were using multiple projectiles, perhaps two or three. Because the Burnswark whistling shot are about ~20 grams each, two or three of them together within a pouch will generally mass about the same as most conventional Roman sling glandes. The round shape won't get in the way like using a biconical would if you were throwing multiples.

Why shotgun these out? Fast-flying lead bits are still something to watch out for, and given that these projectiles will likely whistle, I'd imagine they'd have a psychological effect (Perhaps more so than the buzzing wasp-like sound that a lot of glandes make). I think Shotgunning with lead projectiles is very viable. Much less so with rock or clay. The difference I'd say is with the density.

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by Rat Man on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 1:07pm
   The idea has been brought up here several times in the past.  A shotgun sling could be effective for slinging at a flock of birds.

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by joe_meadmaker on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 1:19pm
Could also be used as a distraction.  Or a deterrent if you wanted to chase something away, but not actually kill or hurt it.

This gives me an idea.  I'm going to try something in the next few days and will report back on it.

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by Rat Man on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 1:25pm
  Yes, you could definitely sting a critter without killing or seriously injuring it. Good idea.

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by Mersa on Jan 24th, 2020 at 7:06am
i think timpa made a scary shotgun sling

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by Kick on Jan 24th, 2020 at 7:36am
A load of ball bearings as ammo helped Timpa :D

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by Curious Aardvark on Jan 24th, 2020 at 8:25am
Few ways of doing it.
1:) use a captive release 'cup' if you look through the forum there are a number of examples of this.
2) wrap the collection of missiles in tissue paper and the force of the spin will tear the paper and give you a shotgun effect.
3) just have a cupped pouch and load it up.

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by timpa on Jan 25th, 2020 at 3:56pm
In the 70s, an old man taught me and my friend to do shotgun slings.
Among other things, here in images:


https://linko-sling.jimdofree.com/erikoislingot-special-slings/

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by joe_meadmaker on Jan 27th, 2020 at 11:06am
That's awesome timpa!  I almost have a sling and ammunition ready to do my take on this.  No idea if it's going to work, but hopefully I'll be able to give it a go tomorrow morning before work.

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by Randomline on Jan 27th, 2020 at 8:55pm
Thanks for sharing!  That's a very interesting looking shot sling.  I'll have to attempt one sometime. 

Does the varied shot size seem to help the pattern (like it is supposed to in bird shot)?

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by joe_meadmaker on Jan 28th, 2020 at 11:13pm
Here's an attempt I made with a scatter-sling.  I'm still using ice as usual.  The spread I got was much wider and more random than I expected.  I think I need to get more of a cup shape with the pouch (as was mentioned in other posts) to narrow the spread a bit.

There are a few hits throughout the video, but they're mainly just luck.  The video includes every throw I made (minus the very first one, wasn't setting up the camera if it didn't work at all).

https://youtu.be/iWDxyNu6o0U

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by Mersa on Jan 29th, 2020 at 12:04am
Great stuff joe
I think you would ruin a few ducks day with that thing

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by Kick on Jan 29th, 2020 at 5:19am
I think it was Timpa that had the design where it opens out from the bottom. That would also concentrate the shot I would think though the timing of the release would be different from a regular sling. Did you use some other ice mold for the balls? I don't know if I've seen the small version.

EDIT: Oh woops Timpa already posted :D But yeah I think opening from the bottom might work better.

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by Mersa on Jan 29th, 2020 at 5:42am
I wonder if the shotgun sling could be combined with the compound sling???

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by joe_meadmaker on Jan 29th, 2020 at 11:10am

Kick wrote on Jan 29th, 2020 at 5:19am:
Did you use some other ice mold for the balls? I don't know if I've seen the small version.

Indeed!  https://www.amazon.com/Frexmall-Spheres-Food-Grade-Stackable-Cocktail/dp/B072N2X2FQ/ref=sr_1_64?keywords=small+ice+mold&qid=1580313859&sr=8-64
I actually bought these for use with another sling.  That video will be coming up in a week or two.



Mersa wrote on Jan 29th, 2020 at 5:42am:
I wonder if the shotgun sling could be combined with the compound sling???

You're killing me dude. :D

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by Mersa on Jan 29th, 2020 at 6:31pm
Had to put it out there  ;D

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by timpa on Feb 1st, 2020 at 6:48pm

Kick wrote on Jan 29th, 2020 at 5:19am:
I think it was Timpa that had the design where it opens out from the bottom. That would also concentrate the shot I would think though the timing of the release would be different from a regular sling. Did you use some other ice mold for the balls? I don't know if I've seen the small version.

EDIT: Oh woops Timpa already posted :D But yeah I think opening from the bottom might work better.


Yes. If the sling opens from the top (folds) it spreads the stones even wider.

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by joe_meadmaker on May 15th, 2020 at 10:37pm
There was another post recently that mentioned shotgun slings.  It was a good reminder for me to finally get my second one done.  This sling much more closely follows timpa's design.  And needless to say, worked much better than the first one I did.  If you watch this and then go back and take a quick look at the first video, it's quite amazing the difference.

https://youtu.be/ECkoZvGB7P4

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by Mersa on May 16th, 2020 at 3:39am
I’m still waiting on the combined shotgun compound sling

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by joe_meadmaker on May 19th, 2020 at 7:30pm
I almost hate to say this.  I have a couple of ideas on that, but I don't know if it will work.

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by Jauke on May 29th, 2020 at 2:52pm
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Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by joe_meadmaker on May 29th, 2020 at 6:27pm
Did you do any throwing with the pouch loaded like that?  That's the method I was using before trying a pouch that opens at the bottom.  Definitely a wider spread with regular pouch.

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by Jauke on May 30th, 2020 at 2:51am
Yeah, it works, wide spread, fun sometimes.

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by lobohunter on May 30th, 2020 at 3:52pm
I have always have had good luck  with aadvarks no 2
I use a square of paper towel and 10- 12 3/8 in Ball bearings

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by Sarosh on Aug 24th, 2020 at 3:14pm
https://youtu.be/qSgGlLUZb-E

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by timpa on Aug 24th, 2020 at 4:54pm
Sarosh: They opened well!

Here's a little bit of the same (Shuriken Bola in sling)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70qFogtQq28

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by timpa on Aug 24th, 2020 at 4:56pm
And slinging Bola chains:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X18epKtllNQ

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by IronGoober on Aug 24th, 2020 at 8:06pm
Sarosh, very interesting. Nice analysis of the flight and release characteristics.

I think you should use this for a computer animation. The video of the projectile coming toward the camera made me think of creepy hand reaching toward the target. You could animate  a slinger-mage slinging spells toward the doom of their opponent. Lol. Sorry, maybe that was too much nerdiness for this thread.

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by Sarosh on Aug 25th, 2020 at 2:19am

timpa wrote on Aug 24th, 2020 at 4:56pm:
And slinging Bola chains:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X18epKtllNQ


that bandsaw blade bola is the most scary , spring steel makes the most unexpected cuts.


IronGoober wrote on Aug 24th, 2020 at 8:06pm:
Sarosh, very interesting. Nice analysis of the flight and release characteristics.

I think you should use this for a computer animation. The video of the projectile coming toward the camera made me think of creepy hand reaching toward the target. You could animate  a slinger-mage slinging spells toward the doom of their opponent. Lol. Sorry, maybe that was too much nerdiness for this thread.


Thanks!

I was thinking of calling it "Eagle Claw" ammo but I think it's better to go with common terminology.
As for animations I would like to learn to use blender but I have a lot of other stuff I need to learn and do. Maybe an animator could do this, 3d animation would be awesome https://www.youtube.com/c/Astartes40k/videos

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by Kick on Aug 25th, 2020 at 3:48pm
That ammo is really cool. I have a few bolas but haven't tried slinging them... yet...

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by Slyngorm on Sep 2nd, 2020 at 2:26pm
Following timpas design would a cup with a smaller opening concentrate the ammunition?

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by joe_meadmaker on Sep 2nd, 2020 at 2:40pm
It wouldn't base on the small amount of experimentation I've done with this.  A smaller opening would mean a longer period of time for all ammunition to clear the sling.  What is needed is for all ammunition to be out of the sling as quickly as possible.

On the other side of that, a really big opening will have a bigger variation in the release point as it relates to the sling for each individual projectile.  So it's a task of finding a balance between the two.

Again, that's just my take from a few sessions with a shotgun sling (I called it a scatter-sling :)).  Would be interested in hearing other thoughts.

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by Slyngorm on Sep 2nd, 2020 at 3:36pm

joe_meadmaker wrote on Sep 2nd, 2020 at 2:40pm:
A smaller opening would mean a longer period of time for all ammunition to clear the sling.  What is needed is for all ammunition to be out of the sling as quickly as possible.


That completely makes sense actually. You should definitely experiment further with this (if you want of course).

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by joe_meadmaker on Sep 2nd, 2020 at 5:04pm
I definitely will at some point.  The first sling I tried was pretty normal, with just a very large pouch.  It had a really wide spread.  After that I switched to one based on timpa's design and the spread was much more concentrated.

I had some adjustments planned for the sling but haven't made them yet.  I should get that done.  It's a fun sling to use.

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by timpa on Sep 2nd, 2020 at 7:01pm
This I have not yet filmed with the ball queue.
Gotta film.
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Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by joe_meadmaker on Sep 2nd, 2020 at 7:12pm
That looks great timpa!

A couple questions.  What is the internal diameter?  And how far up do you normally fill it with ammunition for each throw?  If you haven't used it yet, you might not have an answer to the second question yet.

Looking forward to that video!

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by Slyngorm on Sep 5th, 2020 at 8:15am
What if you only filled as much ammunition into the cup as to cover the lid, without any lying on top of each other? Wouldn't it then release at the same time even in a wide pouch?

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by joe_meadmaker on Sep 5th, 2020 at 10:06am
Yes.  At least in theory.  But when the sling is being rotated, the ammunition at the leading side of the sling will be slightly ahead of the ammunition at the trailing side.  So when the ammunition is released, all the individual projectiles will be coming out at a slightly different release angle.  This angle difference should be small, but the wider the cup of the pouch, the larger this angle difference will be.

Another thing to keep in mind is that as the sling rotates, all the ammunition is pushing against each other.  So when it is released, there will be a lot of contact between projectiles causing changes in velocity for most of them.

But that gives me an idea.  What if the pouch of the sling was set up as a grid with individual chambers for each projectile.  So the projectile couldn't have any contact with each other until after release.  I wonder what effect that would have.

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by IronGoober on Sep 5th, 2020 at 6:00pm

joe_meadmaker wrote on Sep 5th, 2020 at 10:06am:
What if the pouch of the sling was set up as a grid with individual chambers for each projectile.


Oooh, that is an interesting idea. I'd like to see that.

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by joe_meadmaker on Sep 5th, 2020 at 9:10pm
It will be coming (hopefully) in the not too distance future.  I've been thinking about it today and have a couple ideas on how to do it.

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by timpa on Sep 7th, 2020 at 4:43pm
@Joe:
inner diameter 35mm/1,4in and length 20cm/8in.
I have thrown mainly torpedoes.
But it works well with balls too.
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Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by Mersa on Sep 7th, 2020 at 6:23pm
You throw some scary stuff timpa

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by timpa on Sep 9th, 2020 at 3:50pm
the scarier, the better. :D
I don't like tennis balls.

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by NooneOfConsequence on Sep 9th, 2020 at 6:03pm
I’m sure you can find a way to make tennis balls dangerous Timpa

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by Albion Slinger on Sep 9th, 2020 at 11:26pm

NooneOfConsequence wrote on Sep 9th, 2020 at 6:03pm:
I’m sure you can find a way to make tennis balls dangerous Timpa

Will probably come back with a tennis ball filled with cement. ;D

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by Caldou on Sep 10th, 2020 at 6:05am

Albion Slinger wrote on Sep 9th, 2020 at 11:26pm:

NooneOfConsequence wrote on Sep 9th, 2020 at 6:03pm:
I’m sure you can find a way to make tennis balls dangerous Timpa

Will probably come back with a tennis ball filled with cement. ;D


With nails and razor blades (and toothbrushes...)

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by timpa on Sep 10th, 2020 at 4:56pm
Like this  :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyPo1XlxoFo

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by joe_meadmaker on Nov 11th, 2020 at 12:23pm
Perhaps the world's first individually chambered scatter sling.  The main structure is made of poplar, then wrapped in leather, and paracord cords.  It's designed to fit the 1 inch diameter mini ice balls I can make.  It's deep enough to fit 1 or 2 ice balls in each chamber.  I'll be making ice for the next week or so, and then a video will be coming.  Stay tuned...




Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by Kick on Nov 11th, 2020 at 1:08pm
Wow...

I am looking forward to this video.

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by Slyngorm on Nov 11th, 2020 at 1:52pm
Help, someone stole my six shooter wheel

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by joe_meadmaker on Nov 21st, 2020 at 12:57am
Here we go!  This is the chambered sling pictured in my post above.  This one was pretty fun to use.

https://youtu.be/tcxhkPyXxd4

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by Slyngorm on Nov 21st, 2020 at 3:18am
How would you compare the three slings you have made so far?

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by Kick on Nov 21st, 2020 at 8:24am
Madness. I love it :D Only thing missing was a balaclava and a pine forest.

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by Morphy on Nov 21st, 2020 at 10:04am
Eagerly awaiting to watch this video when I get a moment. Def. looks cool though.

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by joe_meadmaker on Nov 21st, 2020 at 11:40am

Slyngorm wrote on Nov 21st, 2020 at 3:18am:
How would you compare the three slings you have made so far?

I would rank the first sling at the bottom.  It's by far the quickest and simplest to make.  But it doesn't feel like there's any real control over where the projectiles are going.  They just come out in random directions.  It does need to be said that all these slings obviously have that problem.  The (essentially) normal sling is just the worst of the three at what could be considered 'control'.

I think the second one is the best design.  Kudos to timpa for being the inspiration on this one.  The problem with my version is that it isn't very stabile.  The little piece of leather that's acting as a hinge for the trap door is too flimsy.  I wasn't able to do a very hard throw because the door at the bottom would slide out of position and all the ice would fall out.  You can actually see this happen in the second video.  I still have full intention to fix this sling.  I want to strengthen the sides so the cylindrical shape is held better.  And replace the piece of leather holding the door at the bottom with a sturdier piece.  I think I could get some better throws with it then.

The third one actually works better than I expected.  It's definitely the coolest looking.  But I don't think it actually works better than a sling following the design of the second one.  So in the end it's a lot of time to make, but no real advantage to the design.

That said, I think there is going to be one more video in this series.  I want to complete the mentioned upgrades to sling #2, and then do a back to back comparison video of #2 and #3.  I think it will be helpful in seeing the differences if the camera angle is exactly the same, and it's done in one session so I know I'm throwing the same way.  But I want to finish my SITH sling first, and then do a trash sling (Note: Everyone should do this: http://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1605409704  ;)), so it will probably be a little while before I get to do a good comparison video.  Maybe early next year.

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by joe_meadmaker on Nov 21st, 2020 at 11:42am

Kick wrote on Nov 21st, 2020 at 8:24am:
Only thing missing was a balaclava and a pine forest.

;D


@Morphy - I hope you enjoy it.  I'm looking forward to hearing what you think.

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by IronGoober on Nov 21st, 2020 at 12:56pm
Good stuff Joe. This video raises more questions. At least 50% of the throws had a gap in the direction of the projectiles, it wasn't a sweeping arc of projectiles, but more like a bimodal distribution, usually with the missing piece right where the target was. Your releases were right in line with hitting the target, but the projectiles were just going on either side. This makes me think it is the trap door that is interfering somehow.  It would be very interesting to see how the spread changes with changing the position of the hinge, I think that would have a big effect on the total angular spread.  If you have a new-ish smartphone, (~2017), you could get a slow-mo video of the trap door, that would be really interesting to see and could shed some light on this. Also, I love the tidy design. But if you want to light-weight your sling, some pieces of plastic pipe taped together might make it less heavy to swing around. It certainly wouldn't look as nice though.

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by joe_meadmaker on Nov 21st, 2020 at 1:38pm
Thanks IG!  Great observation on the spread.  I didn't pick up on that.  My first thought is the same as yours, has to be something with the door.  When designing the sling, I did intentionally try to attach the door so the opening was toward the front in the direction of motion.  The idea was that when the door opened, it would catch the air and be pushed open faster.  All through the editing, I never looked closely at a frame by frame to see if that was actually happening.

But now I have looked.  I'm only working with 30 fps, so there are a lot of gaps, but the door appears to be open toward the ground.  I looked at multiple throws and this seems to be pretty consistent.  I would not expect the door opening toward the ground to cause a gap in the center of the spread.  But definitely can't say for sure.

Good thought on changing the hinge position.  I might be able to do that.  The retention cord is held on with a couple eyelet screws.  I can definitely rotate their position on the top of the sling.  But there may be a problem with the release cord.  As the hinge position rotates around the sling, the release cord will as well.  That may end up causing some strange grips to hang on to it and keep the sling closed.  This sounds like it's worth a try though.

I have a Samsung Galaxy S10.  I'll check if there's an option for a higher frame rate and see if I can get a more side (or front) facing angle the next time I'm recording.




Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by timpa on Nov 21st, 2020 at 6:48pm
Your workshop is cleaner than mine :)

An interesting experiment. But, the sling must be as light as possible. Weighted pouch is hell.

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by IronGoober on Nov 21st, 2020 at 7:37pm

joe_meadmaker wrote on Nov 21st, 2020 at 1:38pm:
I have a Samsung Galaxy S10.  I'll check if there's an option for a higher frame rate and see if I can get a more side (or front) facing angle the next time I'm recording.


You certainly have the capacity for 240FPS then. It should just be a slider at the bottom of the screen in the camera app, to choose "slow-mo" or something like it.

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by Morphy on Nov 21st, 2020 at 7:56pm
I like it. I can tell a lot of thought has gone into this. The question of making shotgun slings workable is a tough one. I’ve been thinking possibly some type of sabot round that will fall away early on in the air to keep them from leaving the pouch at different times.

I imagine the only way to get a tight spread would be if all rounds left at precisely the same time just as if they were a single rock. Even a fraction of a second difference would cause a very large spread due to how fast the sling is moving at release. And the faster it moves the greater the spread.

With a sabot round the casing would fall off within a few feet of leaving the pouch and the rifling would naturally tend to spread out the shot pattern but you would also need to make sure the spin was not too extreme or it would throw the projectiles outward at too high a rate.

Also you would need to balance having individual rounds heavy enough to actually do damage and yet light enough to not to hit an extreme weight or low number of shots.

Because of this I’ve been thinking the best fit would be a sabot with a long sling in the 35-40” range with 5 - 3 oz lead glandes. 15oz is a lot but with a long sling it wouldn’t be that difficult.

Anyways just some thoughts. Clearly I overthought this lol.


Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by joe_meadmaker on Nov 21st, 2020 at 11:06pm
Early in this topic, CA mentioned wrapping the ammunition in tissue paper to keep it together until it leaves the sling.  I might give that a try.  And I would be able to do that test with sling #2.  A sabot (I admit that I had to look that up) is an interesting idea.  Although at the moment I can't think of any way to implement that with what I'm currently using.  Something to keep in mind though.


@IronGoober - I did find the slow motion option on my phone.  Thanks for the tip.  Between these sling comparisons, tests, and slow motion, I'm going to have to make those stupid little ice balls for like 2 weeks straight just to have enough.  ;D

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by Morphy on Nov 22nd, 2020 at 6:36pm
Joe if you have an Instagram I would love to follow your channel.

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by joe_meadmaker on Nov 22nd, 2020 at 8:14pm
Thanks Morphy.  I appreciate that.  I do not though.  I'm not particularly active on social media.  I'm on a couple forums outside of this one, and my YouTube channel.  That's pretty much it.  No Facebook, Instagram, or Twitter.

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by Mersa on Nov 23rd, 2020 at 7:01am
Well if you ever do me and Morphy are ready to be your “followers”

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by Kick on Nov 23rd, 2020 at 7:03am
I'm in too :D

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by Morphy on Nov 23rd, 2020 at 8:04am

Mersa wrote on Nov 23rd, 2020 at 7:01am:
Well if you ever do me and Morphy are ready to be your “followers”


He really should he does a ton of cool stuff. Mine is 95% recycled memes because I haven't yet returned to full crafting production. But Joe here could post some stuff I bet.

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by joe_meadmaker on Nov 23rd, 2020 at 12:02pm
You guys are making me blush.  ;)

To be honest, if I had an Instagram account, I think the bulk of it would end up being cat pictures.  ;D

Title: Re: Shotgun slings? Shotslings?
Post by Kick on Nov 24th, 2020 at 4:27am
You say that likes it's a bad thing. It's why the internet was invented right?

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