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Message started by teenageslinger on Sep 18th, 2012 at 9:56pm

Title: Slinging in Hunger Games (maybe?)
Post by teenageslinger on Sep 18th, 2012 at 9:56pm
In the first Hunger Games the author says Rue used a "slingshot".

Was that a common mistake or was it a real rubber powered slingshot?

Just wondering about what you guys thought.

Title: Re: Slinging in Hunger Games (maybe?)
Post by benkolmer on Sep 18th, 2012 at 10:10pm
I believe it was indeed a slingshot, not a sling.

Title: Re: Slinging in Hunger Games (maybe?)
Post by Dan on Sep 19th, 2012 at 8:18am
  Yep that was just a slingshot. Often employed by kids working in agriculture. It's unfortunate slings weren't used but when you have most people that only have a week of combat trainging, sling use is unlikely.

Title: Re: Slinging in Hunger Games (maybe?)
Post by teenageslinger on Sep 19th, 2012 at 9:26pm
the author referred to the nock on an arrow as a notch so obviously she knows precious little about weapons.

Title: Re: Slinging in Hunger Games (maybe?)
Post by Dan on Sep 20th, 2012 at 8:19am
Yeah, well, so do most people that read the books. Culture isn't designed for the analytical specialist like ourselves.    ;) 

Title: Re: Slinging in Hunger Games (maybe?)
Post by teenageslinger on Sep 20th, 2012 at 8:33pm
lol i know what ya mean

Title: Re: Slinging in Hunger Games (maybe?)
Post by Arcane Tinker on Feb 4th, 2013 at 4:27pm
If they had one in the games, I'd like to think it would look something like this:
I whipped this up last night, I've been in a PVC molding mood lately. The rest is more grey blind lift cord and silver micro cord.

The finish is my attempt at a faux carbon fiber, done with black, grey and silver.





Title: Re: Slinging in Hunger Games (maybe?)
Post by Dan on Feb 4th, 2013 at 5:18pm
That's awesome bro! How does she throw?

Also, reading through the HG series I often complicated how slings would have been utilized and I think they would have been more likely improvised by some agricultrual/woodland kid that already knows how to use them than being implelemented by the game makers. Mainly because the tributes only have one week to prep and I know how I looked after week of slinging. Lets just say I wouldn't want rely on my sling in a fight to the death then.  ;)

Title: Re: Slinging in Hunger Games (maybe?)
Post by squirrelslinger on Feb 4th, 2013 at 5:22pm
Wow. If they already had some skill, and were able to practice in the capital....
Anyway, please excuse this if it offends anyone, but I do NOT like the hunger games. or any book like that.
the person who wrote it made it a good book, but DO NOT rely on it for any sort of advice on primitive weapons.... I have some split arrows to prove it!
and other stuff.........
for that matter, do not rely on any one source for information!
(I sorta despise quite a few books.....) They are horrendously inaccurate!!!!!!
EDIT- I was ranting sooo much I forgot about the sling! NICE sling!!!!!!
How does it throw?
it looks cool, but which cord is release and which is retention?

Title: Re: Slinging in Hunger Games (maybe?)
Post by Arcane Tinker on Feb 4th, 2013 at 5:28pm
I remember seeing the movie with my wife and recall that all the weapons in the games were very synthetic with lots of silver and unnatural aesthetic design cues.  

I don't know how it throws yet, but it sure dry swings ridiculously fast...probably because the pouch is so heavy. Ironic that I painted it to mimic something so light.

Squirrelslinger, its based on Thomas's captive release caulk tube pouch. The retention end is the one with the Mr. Bill smile and the release is the shark fin end.

Title: Re: Slinging in Hunger Games (maybe?)
Post by squirrelslinger on Feb 4th, 2013 at 5:33pm

Arcane Tinker wrote on Feb 4th, 2013 at 5:28pm:
I remember seeing the movie with my wife and recall that all the weapons in the games were very synthetic with lots of silver and unnatural aesthetic design cues.  

I don't know how it throws yet, but it sure dry swings ridiculously fast...probably because the pouch is so heavy. Ironic that I painted it to mimic something so light.

I originally thought the pouch was made from foam! :o ;D :o
Cast PVC, you say?
thats a new one....
How do you even cast anything other than epoxy, glass, cement, metals, etc?

Title: Re: Slinging in Hunger Games (maybe?)
Post by Arcane Tinker on Feb 4th, 2013 at 5:42pm
Molding (or modeling if you prefer) like clay or dough, not casting. It's a chunk of 2" PVC pipe cut to shape, heated till soft and then formed into shape.

Title: Re: Slinging in Hunger Games (maybe?)
Post by squirrelslinger on Feb 4th, 2013 at 6:20pm
Oh.
Thanks!
Let me guess- how hot do you need to get it to shape the stuff?
100 degrees F?
200?
I have heard hot-boiling water?

Title: Re: Slinging in Hunger Games (maybe?)
Post by Bill Skinner on Feb 5th, 2013 at 8:49am
That looks like you have a specific ammunition in mind, golf balls or steel ball bearings?

Title: Re: Slinging in Hunger Games (maybe?)
Post by Masiakasaurus on Feb 5th, 2013 at 11:01am
I bet if the open front end were held slightly higher than the back it would hold any ammo smaller than the inside diameter of the pouch. You'd have to throw in a way that wouldn't spin stabilize the projectile, but that's how I throw naturally. The collapsed section of PVC at the back end was a great idea. I may have to copy this design! I'd love to know how you made the paint look like carbon fiber.

Title: Re: Slinging in Hunger Games (maybe?)
Post by teenageslinger on Feb 5th, 2013 at 11:20am

squirrelslinger wrote on Feb 4th, 2013 at 5:22pm:
Wow. If they already had some skill, and were able to practice in the capital....
Anyway, please excuse this if it offends anyone, but I do NOT like the hunger games. or any book like that.
the person who wrote it made it a good book, but DO NOT rely on it for any sort of advice on primitive weapons.... I have some split arrows to prove it!
and other stuff.........
for that matter, do not rely on any one source for information!
(I sorta despise quite a few books.....) They are horrendously inaccurate!!!!!!
EDIT- I was ranting sooo much I forgot about the sling! NICE sling!!!!!!
How does it throw?
it looks cool, but which cord is release and which is retention?

I agree.
The book was so inaccurate.

Title: Re: Slinging in Hunger Games (maybe?)
Post by Bill Skinner on Feb 5th, 2013 at 7:16pm
Dudes, "Hunger Games" is a love story.  It is set in a "combat" setting for excitment and to carry the plot, cause it really doesn't have one.  Plot, I mean.

Title: Re: Slinging in Hunger Games (maybe?)
Post by Arcane Tinker on Feb 5th, 2013 at 8:21pm
I don't know exactly what temperature I hit when its as soft as I like it to be...over 100°C though, I use a heat gun and a rag to shield my hand from the hot plastic when I shape it.

No particular projectiles in mind, just wanted something a little prettier than a caulk tube.

And the carbon fiber finish is a lot easier done than said.   Find some suitable screen material for a mask.  Regular old bug window screen doesn't work, it is too open.  On this project I used a drywall sanding screen for a pole sander. Solar screen might be good, perhaps lawn chair webbing, you'll have to get creative here.
1. Lay a base coat of black. Let dry.
2. Apply screen and spray your dark grey, I've used a dark metallic Gunmetal color with outstanding results, but a nice smoke grey will do fine.
3. Shift the mask up a tiny bit, and maybe over a smudge too..trial and error are your best friends here. Lightly spray your silver....not much more than a dusting...too much silver is super easy to do and it looks super fake.
4. This one is optional but sometimes it really helps sell the effect. Ever so slightly rotate the screen.  I'm talking like one degree of rotation. Dust with your black again. Do this more at any curves. It creates a moire effect that mimics the fiber tugging and skewing that happens when laying real fiber cloth.

Title: Re: Slinging in Hunger Games (maybe?)
Post by Masiakasaurus on Feb 5th, 2013 at 8:28pm
The carbon fiber effect actually sounds pretty easy!

I quite like the hunger games: tons of political intrigue, psychology, and a realistic take on PTSD recovery. Plus some gooey stuff and fighting for garnish.

Title: Re: Slinging in Hunger Games (maybe?)
Post by Atlatlista on Feb 5th, 2013 at 8:32pm
I thought the first book of the Hunger Games was exceptionally well-written.  Yeah, it's a teen book, but it's a very tightly-crafted teen book.  I thought the second was less good than the first, and the third less good than the second, but overall, as a series - quite solid.  I agree with Masi, it's a good look at PTSD for young people.  The woman who wrote it was an air force brat, and drew on some of her dad's experiences.  As to the archery - there's nothing that really was glaring for me.  Nock/notch, whatever, I'm not that picky.  Sometimes adding in a ton of technical detail bogs down your prose.

Title: Re: Slinging in Hunger Games (maybe?)
Post by Donnerschlag on Feb 6th, 2013 at 1:01am
^This.


I love the sling design! I want to make one now :)

Title: Re: Slinging in Hunger Games (maybe?)
Post by Dan on Feb 6th, 2013 at 8:47am
When its not vital, I hear what I want to hear, and with the HG I remember what I wanted to rember the most. The fighting, the survival, the government oppresion, the resistance, and the PTSD are what were most memorable to me after the books and I forgot all about the love story.
And it allows me to talk about fighting and survival stuff with people that would normally never even think about those things.  :)

The movie promptly reminded me the love story is the prime plot.  ;)

Still waiting for the review/test of that sling Arcane.  :)

Title: Re: Slinging in Hunger Games (maybe?)
Post by Arcane Tinker on Feb 6th, 2013 at 1:32pm
[quote author=Dan]

Still waiting for the review/test of that sling Arcane.  :)[/quote]

Took it out on the lake with a sausage shaped 100g. Stone today.  It is very consistent, I could be relatively accurate with it compared to other conventional slings.  It'll never take any distance awards, averaging 75m, but this may have been related to the thrower's full snow gear and the poor ammunition.  It has a wicked follow through and loses no noticeable momentum after release, I can blame the pouch weight mostly but all captive release slings seem to behave that way.
The stone I used did tumble as expected, but it was far from the violent buzzing, distance/accuracy- killing spin that a conventional pouch would impart on such a poor projectile.

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