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Message started by David Morningstar on Jun 19th, 2012 at 7:32am

Title: Mexican woven pouch, new method with paracord
Post by David Morningstar on Jun 19th, 2012 at 7:32am
This thread http://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1339632628 got my mind working again and I dug out an old idea and tried it. Apologies for the poor pics, I started in daylight but as it got dark the light wasnt so good.

I started with two lengths of paracord, six times longer than the folded length of the sling. I used a reverse twist for the fingerloop and the pouch sides and a four strand round braid for the cords.



Here is a closer look.



Then I started splicing a third cord, the same length as the other two, between the pouch sides. But I soon ran into a problem, the twist was not even between both sides and having them both twisted in the same direction didnt help.



Time for a rethink! I unbraided the release cord and redid one of the pouch sides. This time I twisted it the opposite direction and made sure it was matching the other cord as I went along. I didnt rebraid the whole release cord in case I needed to make more adjustments.



Here is a closer look.



I also kept the sides together and put the warp cord through both at a time. This was really easy, and is the main benefit of this method.



In closeup.



The warp is in place.



Pull the pouch sides out



Another closeup.



Use the longer end of the cord to start the weaving.



After a few passes its starting to look good.



This is a short weave for the centre of the pouch, these make it wider in the middle than at the ends.



The weaving is done, now I am working a little slack out of the warp cords.



This photo is out of focus, sorry. Here I am working one of the ends alongside one of the warp cords to finish it off. It was trimmed and melted after this. I did this to both ends.



Nearly finished now.



Finished! I used a Matthew Walker knot at the release end.



Isnt it a handsome thing?



It throws really well. At first I was hitting to the left but this was because the release knot is quite a bit larger than I am used to. Once I started really popping my release open I was slinging straight again.

The cords have a lot of bulk but the four strand braid makes them very flexible in all directions.

A possible upgrade would be to not twist the fingerloop but to use the two cords as warp for a woven fingerloop instead. This would be very comfortable.

Title: Re: Mexican woven pouch, new method with paracord
Post by Rat Man on Jun 19th, 2012 at 7:52am
Good stuff, DM.  Thanks for sharing.

Title: Re: Mexican woven pouch, new method with paracord
Post by Dan on Jun 19th, 2012 at 9:47am
Very innovative. Looks good bro.

Title: Re: Mexican woven pouch, new method with paracord
Post by Torc on Jun 19th, 2012 at 11:57am
Very impressive!

Title: Re: Mexican woven pouch, new method with paracord
Post by canteskuyaOMD on Jun 20th, 2012 at 12:18pm
Awesome DM, i just made another one yesterday with one strand as the pouch, instead of entering it in at the split, i braided it in above the split in the retention cord. I used one long strand about 5 yards in length, and weaved the entire thing with it. You can tie a simple knot then mask it with a whip knot, i only took one photo of where i started braiding the pouch strand in, i'll post it up later.

Title: Re: Mexican woven pouch, new method with paracord
Post by Sons of benjamin on Jun 21st, 2012 at 11:58am
That's an interesting way to make this style sling.  I'll have to try it some time; it looks easier than the method I know.

Title: Re: Mexican woven pouch, new method with paracord
Post by Rat Man on Jun 21st, 2012 at 4:47pm
Your tutorial is a keeper, David.  Thanks again.

Title: Re: Mexican woven pouch, new method with paracord
Post by Dan on Jun 23rd, 2012 at 8:29am
Would it be okay if I added the last 'finished' pic into The Guide?

Title: Re: Mexican woven pouch, new method with paracord
Post by David Morningstar on Jun 23rd, 2012 at 9:43am

Dan wrote on Jun 23rd, 2012 at 8:29am:
Would it be okay if I added the last 'finished' pic into The Guide?


You're welcome.

Title: Re: Mexican woven pouch, new method with paracord
Post by Matt Borel on Jun 23rd, 2012 at 12:07pm
Due to the shorter center weft and subsequent warp tightening, I would be inclined to dub this one "King Tut's Hammock". Of course that doesn't account for your name, David, so that would have to be worked out. A "DMKTH", maybe?

Title: Re: Mexican woven pouch, new method with paracord
Post by Matt Borel on Jun 23rd, 2012 at 12:30pm
Sorry. Mexican, too. "King Tut's Mexican Hammock, by David Morningstar", and that's my final offer. :D

Title: Re: Mexican woven pouch, new method with paracord
Post by Caldou on Jan 20th, 2013 at 10:21am
Ok, finally took the time to work on some pictures...

Here what I made this summer :
http://caldazar.free.fr/blob/img/frondes/tematlatl_mini.JPG

(Click it to see it really big'n'heavy)

The pouch is not really symetrical and the big release turk head knot may hurt :p

The finger loop is not twisted, it's a 2 loops loop ^^

Title: Re: Mexican woven pouch, new method with paracord
Post by Bill Skinner on Jan 20th, 2013 at 1:24pm
It looks like a "war" sling, a sling for throwing large heavy rocks, a loooonnnng way.  I an going to have to break down and make one of these, it looks just right for heaving half brick sized rocks in the river and watching them make big splashes.  


Did I mention that I am very easily amused?

Title: Re: Mexican woven pouch, new method with paracord
Post by jkchaney on Jan 23rd, 2013 at 1:10am
That sling is sick!

Title: Re: Mexican woven pouch, new method with paracord
Post by And_Your_Bird_Can_Sling on Mar 26th, 2013 at 12:26am
I've given this design a shot, and I'm pretty pleased with the simplicity and geometry so far!  I got a little confused, though, because I think the earlier pictures show two "Z" twists for the edges of the pouch, and the later ones show a "Z" and an "S" twist.  I ended up making two "Z" twists with mine.  Is this important, or am I just obsessing over details?

Title: Re: Mexican woven pouch, new method with paracord
Post by David Morningstar on Mar 26th, 2013 at 2:56am

If it worked, then its fine. I found that having both pouch sides twisted in the same direction was a bit awkward, but then they were twisted by different amounts anyway which was probably the bigger problem. I undid it and changed to opposite twists of the same amount and it worked perfectly.

One thing I will try next time is twisting the pouch sides at the same time as laying in the warp cord, rather than twist first and splice later. This might be a simpler way of doing it.


Title: Re: Mexican woven pouch, new method with paracord
Post by And_Your_Bird_Can_Sling on Mar 26th, 2013 at 6:11pm
Sounds similar to my thoughts when I was making mine.  I made eight rows of warp instead of six, too, but I'm pretty satisfied with my results.  I'll test it out the next chance I get and report my results!

Title: Re: Mexican woven pouch, new method with paracord
Post by leadrocks on Mar 27th, 2013 at 11:04pm
Nice work on this design. Can't wait to try this out. :-)

Title: Re: Mexican woven pouch, new method with paracord
Post by thabaill on Mar 29th, 2013 at 12:17pm
Hi

Actually you have made an impresive craft!

I atempted to make a replica of this Huichol sling, but for me is something impossible!

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/716/hondahuichol.jpg/

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