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Message started by Aussie on Jan 3rd, 2011 at 3:08pm

Title: Balearic Target Accuracy
Post by Aussie on Jan 3rd, 2011 at 3:08pm
The Balearic standard target consists of a 120 cm (approx. 4') white square with a central circular bull of 50 cm (approx. 20")dia. They sling at distances of 20 and 30 metres. But what I can't find is an indication of how often they hit.

Does anyone know what typical scores they get? Eg. what percentage of the time does a champion like Luis Pons Livermore expect to hit the black?

Title: Re: Balearic Target Accuracy
Post by Jaegoor on Jan 3rd, 2011 at 3:20pm
There are official competition lists on the side of Tir de Fona
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Title: Re: Balearic Target Accuracy
Post by Jaegoor on Jan 3rd, 2011 at 3:21pm
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Title: Re: Balearic Target Accuracy
Post by Aussie on Jan 3rd, 2011 at 3:30pm
I have looked at their site before and just now had another quick look and found details of the rules but no actual scores. Perhaps they are not available in English?

Title: Re: Balearic Target Accuracy
Post by Fundibularius on Jan 3rd, 2011 at 4:07pm
http://www.tirdefona.org/ingles/marcoing.htm

If you click "results" and then "competitions"on the left bar, you get the reports of the last years. By clicking one of them and "actas an~o 2010", eg, then "resumen", you get the top slingers of the competition plus their scores.

Jaegoor told me that "Diana" means a hit at the iron centre of the target (2 points), "impactos" simple hits at the white periphery of the target (one point). Each slinger has 20 shots. Jaume Darder Quetglas, for example, during the last competition in october, scored 17 by hitting the black centre 4 times and the white zone 9 times.

That makes 13 total hits out of 20 shots (!!!)

Title: Re: Balearic Target Accuracy
Post by Jaegoor on Jan 3rd, 2011 at 4:17pm
Btw and for comparison: If you want to get the yellow t-shirt in Germany (the lowest rank), you'll have to score 8 points from a distance of 20 metres with 20 shots (5X4).

Title: Re: Balearic Target Accuracy
Post by Morphy on Jan 3rd, 2011 at 6:39pm

Fundibularius wrote on Jan 3rd, 2011 at 4:07pm:
http://www.tirdefona.org/ingles/marcoing.htm

If you click "results" and then "competitions"on the left bar, you get the reports of the last years. By clicking one of them and "actas an~o 2010", eg, then "resumen", you get the top slingers of the competition plus their scores.

Jaegoor told me that "Diana" means a hit at the iron centre of the target (2 points), "impactos" simple hits at the white periphery of the target (one point). Each slinger has 20 shots. Jaume Darder Quetglas, for example, during the last competition in october, scored 17 by hitting the black centre 4 times and the white zone 9 times.

That makes 13 total hits out of 20 shots (!!!)



Just curious, does Jaume Darder Quetglas represent an average slinger in this competition. Or is he at the lower end or higher end?

Title: Re: Balearic Target Accuracy
Post by Aussie on Jan 4th, 2011 at 6:28am
Great! Thanks for the link. I will do a bit of averaging out the scores to see what I can come up with.

I the meantime, at 30m the 50cm target will require a precision of 1 degree of angle, the white square approx 3 degrees and they don't hit it every time. That's going to represent a realistic goal for this year.

Title: Re: Balearic Target Accuracy
Post by little on Jan 4th, 2011 at 7:30am
wonder how I'd do in a competition like that,  haha there little kids might beat me,  but what do you expect they're Balearic slingers  :D

Title: Re: Balearic Target Accuracy
Post by Fundibularius on Jan 4th, 2011 at 8:00am

Morphy wrote on Jan 3rd, 2011 at 6:39pm:
Just curious, does Jaume Darder Quetglas represent an average slinger in this competition. Or is he at the lower end or higher end?


He is the current champion in his age group: http://www.tirdefona.org/Notas/cb2010.htm


Title: Re: Balearic Target Accuracy
Post by timann on Jan 4th, 2011 at 3:10pm
I prefer 10 and 20 meters to 20 and 30 meters :D
The balearic target is not too unlike the ball catcher I have been aiming at this summer, and I don`t think I would have made an absolute fool of myself if I had to participate in a balearic competition.
This do not mean I would not find it hard to hit even the white square, and I would not hit it all/most of the times, but it`s a realistic target for slingers.
timann

Title: Re: Balearic Target Accuracy
Post by Morphy on Jan 4th, 2011 at 3:36pm
Thanks Fundi. Good to know.

Title: Re: Balearic Target Accuracy
Post by Aussie on Jan 4th, 2011 at 11:25pm

Fundibularius wrote on Jan 3rd, 2011 at 4:07pm:
http://www.tirdefona.org/ingles/marcoing.htm

If you click "results" and then "competitions"on the left bar, you get the reports of the last years. By clicking one of them and "actas an~o 2010", eg, then "resumen", you get the top slingers of the competition plus their scores.

Jaegoor told me that "Diana" means a hit at the iron centre of the target (2 points), "impactos" simple hits at the white periphery of the target (one point). Each slinger has 20 shots. Jaume Darder Quetglas, for example, during the last competition in october, scored 17 by hitting the black centre 4 times and the white zone 9 times.

That makes 13 total hits out of 20 shots (!!!)


I had a look at the link and there must be something more to calculating the score. The top three scores in the junior section being:
1. 17 points 4 black 9 white     2. 15 points 1 black 11 white       3. 13 points 5 black 7 white

Now (1)   4 x 2 + 9 = 17    (2)  1 x 2+ 11 = 13 not 15 and   (3)   5 x 2 + 7 = 17 not 13  So the scores for 2. and 3. must have been arrived at some different way

Title: Re: Balearic Target Accuracy
Post by Fundibularius on Jan 5th, 2011 at 6:38am
Oh yes, it seems like the rule with the 2 points for the Diana applies only for the children group, and the adults count three for each Diana hit, maybe because they shoot from a greater distance. I'll have a look at the rules on the page.

Title: Re: Balearic Target Accuracy
Post by curious_aardvark on Jan 5th, 2011 at 6:54am
the adults shoot from 3 or four distances. So scores will obviously change depending on how far they are shooting from.

Title: Re: Balearic Target Accuracy
Post by Fundibularius on Jan 5th, 2011 at 12:06pm
It's here (in English):

http://www.mallorcaweb.net/foners/normes/00_normesA.htm

There seem to apply variations of the rules, though, depending on the kind of competition (there are quite a few).

Title: Re: Balearic Target Accuracy
Post by Donnerschlag on Oct 17th, 2012 at 11:32pm
Not quite about accuracy, but I seem to recall that there are multiple classes of competition when it comes to sling lengths. (Short slings a few meters closer than long, or something) Where do they draw the line between a short sling and a long sling? I'm looking on their site, but it's 404'ing on me left and right :P

(I'm making a waxed Balearic sling from scratch, and I'd rather not be forced to make another one solely for competition use ;D)

Title: Re: Balearic Target Accuracy
Post by jlasud on Oct 18th, 2012 at 1:56am
I know only about a rule that limits slings to 1m in max length.
Didn't heard or read any short\long sling\distance rule.

Title: Re: Balearic Target Accuracy
Post by Donnerschlag on Oct 18th, 2012 at 2:52am

jlasud wrote on Oct 18th, 2012 at 1:56am:
I know only about a rule that limits slings to 1m in max length.
Didn't heard or read any short\long sling\distance rule.

That must've been it. What I meant to say is that I remember a limitation of some sort, but I couldn't really remember exactly what it pertained to. :P

My guess was way off, lol

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