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Message started by adsi on Jun 3rd, 2009 at 12:50pm

Title: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by adsi on Jun 3rd, 2009 at 12:50pm
this is a basic tutorial for the netted sling i posted in the pics thread it is mostly through pictures
this is a braided sling that carries twelve strands just like the sling in the guides and article section it uses this not throughout but you could just use separate pieces of string and tie the strings together.
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Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by adsi on Jun 3rd, 2009 at 12:51pm
you braid a split pouch sling but only braid the split with three strands and let the others hang down
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Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by adsi on Jun 3rd, 2009 at 1:10pm
then you knot the outside strands to the split pouch walls
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Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by adsi on Jun 3rd, 2009 at 1:11pm
again knot the outside strands to the wall
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Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by adsi on Jun 3rd, 2009 at 1:12pm
then you knot one pair of the inside strands together
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Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by adsi on Jun 3rd, 2009 at 1:12pm
and then the other
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Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by adsi on Jun 3rd, 2009 at 1:14pm
then you take the two outside strands on the left and knot them
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Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by adsi on Jun 3rd, 2009 at 1:14pm
then the inside pair
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Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by adsi on Jun 3rd, 2009 at 1:15pm
and then the other outside pair
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Post by adsi on Jun 3rd, 2009 at 1:16pm
repeat the process
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Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by adsi on Jun 3rd, 2009 at 1:17pm
almost done
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Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by adsi on Jun 3rd, 2009 at 1:18pm
and you should end with something like this
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Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by adsi on Jun 3rd, 2009 at 1:21pm
this doesent use that much string so once your done just group the strings together and braid the rest of the sling

i like too put an elastic bend around the split before i do the netting to hold it in shape and then i take it off and braid

happy slinging*
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Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by adsi on Jun 3rd, 2009 at 1:23pm
pm me if you need any more information

Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by Kari on Jun 3rd, 2009 at 2:30pm
That is an exellent tutorial :) :) :)

Even I can understand it :o ;)

Kari

Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by Et Cetera on Jun 3rd, 2009 at 5:23pm
Great tutorial! This is the only part I don't understand though

adsi wrote on Jun 3rd, 2009 at 12:50pm:
it uses this not throughout but you could just use separate pieces of string and tie the strings together.



Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by peacefuljeffrey on Jun 4th, 2009 at 6:41am
The layout of the tutorial is a bit belabored (by that, I mean the scrolling involved), and I think there ought to be a good deal more verbal instruction describing what's being done at each stage--like specifying which strands are being used when, and what knot/knots are in use.  But overall it seems to be a very good effort.

Adsi, that sling of yours in the picture looks GREAT!  I mean really really GREAT!  Nice job, man!  :D

Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by adsi on Jun 4th, 2009 at 10:40am
et cetera  what i mean when i say that is that you grab both strings together and do that knot to make the meshes

kari and peaceful. thanks if you do make one post a pic id love to see it :)

Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by Et Cetera on Jun 4th, 2009 at 4:31pm
then do you just slip the ends?

Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by adsi on Jun 5th, 2009 at 10:29am
no you just finish the netting and carry on braiding

Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by Et Cetera on Jun 5th, 2009 at 11:00pm
oops I meant snip

Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by adsi on Jun 6th, 2009 at 7:51am
yeah suprisingly it doesent use that much string and when youre done you just continue braiding like you would on any other sling

Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by adsi on Jun 7th, 2009 at 11:13am
the more strands you use to make the sling the smaller the mesh alternatively you can also control the size of the netting by how far apart the knots are

Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by Rat Man on Jun 7th, 2009 at 3:37pm
I like this tutorial for four reasons.  
1.  I understand it.
2.  That's a great looking sling in the picture.... by far adsi's best!
3.  This is a really good idea for a different kind of sling.
4.  This tutorial teaches you not only how to make a very useful sling, but it also shows you how to make a net as a survival skill.  This is something I've always been curious about.  

Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by Rockman on Jun 7th, 2009 at 8:58pm
Hey adsi, nice design. I'll have to try it sometime. How long is time of construction?

Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by peacefuljeffrey on Jun 8th, 2009 at 7:09am
I feel like the only one who does not clearly understand (and can't tell from the graphics), from start to finish, where which cords come from and go to during the construction of this sling.  :-/


The more I look at the tutorial, the more baffled I become.  I wish someone would show the step-by-step with photographs.
The wording does not make at all clear how many strands are in use, how they are tied to begin the project, why the outermost strands are depicted as thicker than the inside ones...  There is too much vagueness for me to "get it."

Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by Et Cetera on Jun 8th, 2009 at 11:08am

peacefuljeffrey wrote on Jun 8th, 2009 at 7:09am:
I feel like the only one who does not clearly understand (and can't tell from the graphics), from start to finish, where which cords come from and go to during the construction of this sling.  :-/


From waht I understand, I think the cords stay in the same order the whole pouch. I think you just bend them together and tie them. If I'm wrong, please correct me.
Oh, I think you just start with a normal braided sling. (6 strands) The outside thick cords are three strands braided together I think. Hope that helps a bit.

Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by adsi on Jun 8th, 2009 at 11:45am
yeah you start with six strands then when you make the loop they become twelve the cords do stay in the same order there just tied at certain points

ratman thanks

rock man it depends how long it takes you to braid a normal  sling but its about 5/10minutes added on to that

peaceful Jeffrey sorry you don't understand my tutorial  what exactly are are you having trouble with

Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by B.cereus on Jun 8th, 2009 at 2:04pm
Thanks for the tutorial, it have given me  a lot of ideas.  :)

Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by peacefuljeffrey on Jun 8th, 2009 at 3:08pm

adsi wrote on Jun 8th, 2009 at 11:45am:
yeah you start with six strands then when you make the loop they become twelve the cords do stay in the same order there just tied at certain points

ratman thanks

rock man it depends how long it takes you to braid a normal  sling but its about 5/10minutes added on to that

peaceful Jeffrey sorry you don't understand my tutorial  what exactly are are you having trouble with



Are you saying that you start by making the finger loop with six strands used to make it (a three-strand braid with each strand doubled?), and then when it is folded there are twelve strands to make the retention cord, twelve to make the pouch, etc.?  And are you using the twelve strands in groups of four each to make a three-strand braid?

Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by Et Cetera on Jun 8th, 2009 at 9:11pm
Start with a regular braided sling. ( http://slinging.org/index.php?page=making-a-braided-sling-an-illustrated-guide )
Then when you get to the pouch use adsi's tutorial. Does that help?

Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by adsi on Jun 9th, 2009 at 2:38pm
your right on the money there peaceful j

once you get to the pouch you only use three strands to braid the split then use the six strands left over to make the netting

i made one where you start with nine strings and the mesh is quite small ill get a pic of it when i can

Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by adsi on Jun 9th, 2009 at 2:43pm
hold on here it is
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Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by adsi on Jun 10th, 2009 at 1:36pm
i made the pouch a bit big on this and so anything smaller than a baseball will not even fly out as the pouch wraps round them when i sling it swallows up three quarters of a tennis ball

Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by adsi on Jun 18th, 2009 at 10:26am
if you start out with twelve strings the mesh is so small it looks like a solid material

Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by asemery on Jun 19th, 2009 at 7:41pm
Single strand.  Started tying one loop, then added one loop in each row until 6 loops  in row.  To complete -  tied row of 6,  then reduced each row by one until one loop left.



Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by timann on Jun 21st, 2009 at 2:56pm
I decided I wanted to make a netted pouch sling, so here it is.
timann
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Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by timann on Jun 21st, 2009 at 2:59pm
I wanted a picture of the netted pouch, but the §§##%%&& camera stubbornly insist on focusing on the floor >:(
timann
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Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by Rockman on Jun 21st, 2009 at 3:05pm
Hey adsi, can you please describe hoe to tie the knot you use for the net, maybe a picture?
Thank you.

Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by timann on Jun 21st, 2009 at 3:27pm
The description is hidden in there, two net parts is held paralell and tied together with a simple overhand knot.
As simple as possible, but it works.
timann

Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by xxkid123 on Jun 21st, 2009 at 9:06pm
uh adsi, how do you use 9 strands? or do you make it then tie a knot for the finger loop?

Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by adsi on Jun 22nd, 2009 at 10:53am
nine strands is easy just make smaller netting xxkid

timann nice sling!

Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by xxkid123 on Jun 24th, 2009 at 7:06pm
no, i mean, on most slings you first braid a length, then fold it in half then start braiding again. so if you used 9 strands, and folded it in half like before, then you would need to start with 4.5 strands. how is that possible?

Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by adsi on Jun 25th, 2009 at 11:03am
no you use nine strings

so at first its three groups of 3

then when you make the finger loop its three groups of six

Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by xxkid123 on Jun 25th, 2009 at 1:26pm
oh. so when your making the cord itself you have 18 strands?

Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by slinger87 on Jun 25th, 2009 at 4:13pm
just finnished my first netted pouch (for tennis balls), seems like it will work well but I havn't tried it yet, Ill post pictures when I find the camra

Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by slinger87 on Jun 25th, 2009 at 10:27pm
heres some pictures, i probobly should have made the pouch bigger but I didnt, here they are
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Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by slinger87 on Jun 25th, 2009 at 10:28pm
a closeup of the pouch
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Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by slinger87 on Jun 25th, 2009 at 10:30pm
hanging with ball inside
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Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by slinger87 on Jun 25th, 2009 at 10:31pm
and on the ground with ball inside
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Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by adsi on Jun 26th, 2009 at 3:01pm
nice sling

Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by adsi on Jun 27th, 2009 at 7:54am
i like the way you made the pouch  more rectangular

Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by adsi on Jun 28th, 2009 at 5:56am
my method of netting isn't limited to tennis balls

you can do stuff like this with it as well

the pouch behaves exactly the same as a piece of fabric
what do ya think


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Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by xxkid123 on Jun 28th, 2009 at 2:15pm
WOAH O.o that is something worthy of Steven or rockman's hands

Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by slinger87 on Jun 28th, 2009 at 9:23pm
It looks realy good, you dont want to tell us how to do that do you?

Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by peacefuljeffrey on Jun 28th, 2009 at 10:26pm
Say what you want about his grammar and spelling  :-/  but Adsi is turning out to be a freakin' sling-making superstar!  ;D

Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by adsi on Jun 29th, 2009 at 11:26am
that sling is just made from my netting  but really small you should probably be able to see how i did the split

thanks guys!

Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by adsi on Jun 29th, 2009 at 3:12pm
pm me if you need any more info

Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by squirrelslinger on Oct 17th, 2012 at 9:52pm
well, cool. ill ave to post my own net slings on the site. also net DOES NOT BEHAVE LIKE FABRIC it can be cut, yes, but it behaves more like a knit or chrochet object- it has a lot of stretch in one direction, almost none in the other.

Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by squirrelslinger on Oct 17th, 2012 at 9:52pm
also, what are those made from?

Title: Re: basic netted sling tutorial
Post by timann on Oct 18th, 2012 at 12:39pm

squirrelslinger wrote on Oct 17th, 2012 at 9:52pm:
well, cool. ill ave to post my own net slings on the site. also net DOES NOT BEHAVE LIKE FABRIC it can be cut, yes, but it behaves more like a knit or chrochet object- it has a lot of stretch in one direction, almost none in the other.

The key word here is knit.  I once made a netted sling, it was OK but I would not bother to make another.  But later I have knit several "inlays" and sewn into split pouches, braided with round 4-strand braids.  Work like a mix between a fine net, woven and Apache  (sewn on leather) pouch.  

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