Yes Ladies and Genglefins, there is available now, a David action figure, complete with sling  and stones. It is available through Christian retailers. It also has slinging action in it's arm. ( now all it needs is a kung fu grip)

(chuckles)

wow... do they have a goliathe and sheild barer?

and five smooth peices of plastic?

(falls on floor laughing)

Funny you should mention that... when I was a kid I had both a David action figure (complete with detachable sling), and a Goliath action figure.  No shield bearer though.  Neither of them had any sort of spring action, but I still thought they were cool.  

slingbadger wrote on Jun 5^th, 2008 at 6:34pm:

Yes Ladies and Genglefins, there is available now, a David action figure, complete with sling  and stones. It is available through Christian retailers. It also has slinging action in it's arm. ( now all it needs is a kung fu grip)

Always puzzles me why Christians are so fascinated by the story of some guy pulverizing another guy's skull with a rock and then cutting his head off. Doesn't seem to fit to well with the idea of turning the other cheek?

We are so facinated by it because the story is not about the power and accuracy of the sling, but the power of G-D triumphing over evil.  Because without the power of G-D behind him, David would have surley missed, with all five stones.

Yes Justin, I know that David was a great fighter for Truth Justice and the Israelite Way and all that, but his actions don't really tie in with what is exemplary Christian behaviour. Killing someone can hardly be considered as following Christ's teachings to pray for your enemies, love your neighbour as yourself, turn the other cheek etc.etc.

Even the notion of the story's being one of God triumphing over evil is by no means clear cut. Nowhere in the account is David ever instructed by God directly, or by any prophet for that matter, to go and fight Goliath, he does it all on his own initiative. David gives God the credit but the people of Israel don't appear to have praised God for the victory at all; the accolades go to David. It certainly was not a direct miracle like the destruction of the Egyptian army in the Red Sea, but very much the action of a human being.

yeah yeah - but where's the picture of the doll in action. And I'm with aussie.
God's hand was not in the fight itself but (bear in mind i'm a sort of not-quite atheist lol) in davids life up to that point. He had the skill with the sling already. The fight was pretty much a formality.
So if god helped him then it was in his being a shepherd and having to use his sling day to day, pre-planning you might say :-)


had to post this article I came across while looking for the david action figure :-)
http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/3319/holy_toyland/


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Jesus, who looks remarkably like the Brawny Paper Towel Man, has kung-fu grip and utters soothing but authoritarian Bible quotes, like, “I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again” (John 3:3). This lumberjack-like Jesus made some headlines in 2006 when the Toys for Tots organization (a branch of the U.S. Marine Corps Reserve) refused a donation of 4,000 of the dolls for its annual Christmas drive. The irony of turning down Jesus toys for Christmas seems too obvious for comment, but Toys for Tots worried that children on the receiving-end of these donations may not be Christian and therefore it could seem more like a missionary gesture than plain charity. A few days later, however, Toys for Tots reversed its decision and accepted the Jesus dolls, saying simply that they had “found appropriate places for these items.”

You couldn't make it up lol

YES !
I found a page flogging these things :-)))
http://www.christianbook.com/Christian/Books/product?event=AFF&item_code=WW&item_no=112003&netp_id=478995&p=1027100&view=details

Complete with sheep !
http://g.christianbook.com/g/slideshow/1/112003/main/112003_1_adv.jpg

And of course you have to have goliath. Who is 2 inches taller than david. so 5 1/2 inches versus 7 1/2 inches. Actually about right :-)
http://g.christianbook.com/g/slideshow/1/112011/main/112011_1_adv.jpg

We just don't get fun stuff like this in england.

because goliath had been defiing gods word,

ill look it up later, but just before he gets hit, goliath said sumthing about haveing just one G-D

Aussie wrote on Jun 7^th, 2008 at 6:48am:

Yes Justin, I know that David was a great fighter for Truth Justice and the Israelite Way and all that, but his actions don't really tie in with what is exemplary Christian behaviour. Killing someone can hardly be considered as following Christ's teachings to pray for your enemies, love your neighbour as yourself, turn the other cheek etc.etc. Even the notion of the story's being one of God triumphing over evil is by no means clear cut. Nowhere in the account is David ever instructed by God directly, or by any prophet for that matter, to go and fight Goliath, he does it all on his own initiative. David gives God the credit but the people of Israel don't appear to have praised God for the victory at all; the accolades go to David. It certainly was not a direct miracle like the destruction of the Egyptian army in the Red Sea, but very much the action of a human being.

The Bible says do not murder not to kill israel was declared war upon so goliath was a K I A.

Well, I suppose those of us who have been around on the forum for any length of time know that threads like this are going to take this sort of turn >:(


BrydonBoy1 wrote on Jun 8^th, 2008 at 1:41am:

The Bible says do not murder not to kill israel was declared war upon so goliath was a K I A.

Oh really? Cite your sources. Chapter and verse please.


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because goliath had been defiing gods word, ill look it up later, but just before he gets hit, goliath said sumthing about haveing just one G-D

Why not look it up before you post?

One thing that must be remembered is that the Old Testament was a chronicle of the ancient Hebrews, told from their point of view. No equal time for worshippers of Bel Marduk, Dagon, Ashtaroth, Osiris, etc. There's no way that we can know the rightness of the Israelo-Philistine conflict at this late date from a one-sided account.

Heck, David worked as a mercenary for the Philistines, IIRC.  

Even in recent history warring nations have claimed to have God on their side; same God, opposite sides.

You know whatever gods there are probably just have their heads in their hands lamenting: 'why do they just fight ? When I gave these idiots free will - it wasn't simply so they could then turn round and dash the brains out of the human next to them. Now where was that dna code I had last week for intelligent guinea pigs - surely they'd be less bloodthirsty.'

Aussie wrote on Jun 7^th, 2008 at 6:48am:

Yes Justin, I know that David was a great fighter for Truth Justice and the Israelite Way and all that, but his actions don't really tie in with what is exemplary Christian behaviour. Killing someone can hardly be considered as following Christ's teachings to pray for your enemies, love your neighbour as yourself, turn the other cheek etc.etc.

I'd like to give this one a whirl but I'm not going to quote sources as the information is in the most widely distributed collection of books in the world. The simple matter of Biblical fact is that the God of the old testament was the God of "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth". He was also the God of the Jews, not the Christians. It is acceptable to Christians  because David conquered 1 man and in essence brought down an army. That might be viewed as a form of mercy from the viewpoints of some modern Christians and hence a miracle of God. It's not so much the violence that is praised, rather the result of an act that seems favorable.

wanderer wrote on Jun 8^th, 2008 at 11:26am:

Well, I suppose those of us who have been around on the forum for any length of time know that threads like this are going to take this sort of turn >:(

Sorry Wanderer,

Mea Culpa, Mea Maxima Culpa.

But I just couldn't resist hvaing a bit of fun and seeing if "doublethink" is still alive and well.

"God so loved the world.......that none should perish but have everlasting life." (John 3:16)  With the exception of Goliath, Osama bin Laden, etc.etc., generally anyone I don't like.

David kills Goliath........Good!           Goliath threatens to kill David.................Bad!


I second Wanderer's motion that all theological discussion be banned henceforth! I undertake not commence, further or encourage any such discussion even when the most tantalizing travesties of logic are dangled in my face.

sorry wanderer,
i just like proving people wrong (though i didnt win this time  :-[ )

I don't think the banning of theological discussion makes sense. One of the beauties of this forum is we don't have a massive, tedious code of conduct or list of forbidden subjects. Instead, we have a basic respect for other members. Once we start imposing limitations on what can and cannot be discussed, we start telling each other that we are not mature enough to handle ourselves in a respectful manner.
And then we get insulted.

I think that since it's incredibly easy to navigate away from a page that contains discussion which you find illogical or unintelligent, trying to forbid it is unnecessary.
Believe me, I've seen what the old politics/religion bomb can do to a message board. Fortunately, most folks on slinging.org have managed to avoid this stupidity for a long time. We've had plenty of fun and intellectually stimulating discussions on the topic of religion. I think we just need to remember that everyone of us has our own beliefs, and that everyone is deserving of fundamental respect.

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I undertake not [to] commence, further or encourage any such discussion even when the most tantalizing travesties of logic are dangled in my face.

AussieSlinger, if you can do that you have considerably more self-control than have I.

Truthfully, in my three years here there have been numerous discussion of religion and politics, some friendly, some acrimonious.  A couple of times they have been locked by Chris or one of the moderators.  Mostly, members of good will have gently chided whoever was getting rabid, and the discussions were reined in or sometimes ended by mutual consent.  There has been no need for a ban, nor do I see one now.

Dale wrote on Jun 8^th, 2008 at 11:20pm:

Quote: I undertake not [to] commence, further or encourage any such discussion even when the most tantalizing travesties of logic are dangled in my face. AussieSlinger, if you can do that you have considerably more self-control than have I. Truthfully, in my three years here there have been numerous discussion of religion and politics, some friendly, some acrimonious.  A couple of times they have been locked by Chris or one of the moderators.  Mostly, members of good will have gently chided whoever was getting rabid, and the discussions were reined in or sometimes ended by mutual consent.  There has been no need for a ban, nor do I see one now.

Exactly! We rarely seem to need much as far as moderation or remonstration. I don't think I've ever seen a thread locked due to unfriendly babble.
I think we're a pretty awesome community, actually.

I can see having religious discussions, [i]if[/i the parties involved realize that their views aren't necessarily universal, and that because something may appear in their particular holy book they shouldn't expect everyone to accept it as the undisputed truth.

I have to sat that there seems to be a certain lack of appreciation for the Sermon on the Mount amongst some posters.

I'm not sure if anyone was suggesting banning anything - certainly not me. My earlier post was more an expression of exasperation than anything else.

I took Aussie's reply as maybe a little tongue-in-the-cheek?  It is one of the joys of this forum that there is a latitude given to the discussion which one doesn't see in many other places. This has got to be IMHO a good thing.

I tend to stay away from these discussions not because I have little interest in these matters but quite the opposite. There have been some lengthy and frequently enlightening discussions in the threads in the other parts of the forum.

As others observe, the brand of christianity espoused by some here appears to be far more interested in Old Testament than New Testamant principles. It certainly makes dodging the difficult questions easier ;).

SO MANY BIG WORDS!!!!!!!!!
HELP ME!!!!

(rips out plugs of hair)

WHOA, if I had known it was going to be this serious, I wouldn't have brought it up. My point was that I thought it was interesting that there was a sling action figure, regardless of the religion.

I don't think anyone really wants to ban any type of discussion. I think the general consensus is that this forum is improved by the openness of our conversation and the general spirit of respect that goes along with it.
I just figured I'd throw in my lot against the restricting of subject matter before anyone really started to move forward with it. I simply think it would diminish the appeal of our community.

There's no way to predict the direction a topic might head to. Happens everywhere.

I'm going to be an obnoxious git and hit 3 subjects in one sentence.

For being the huge christian that he is, george bush certainly adds credence to evolution; because I don't believe anything that reminds me that much of a talking monkey could have been purposely created instead of being a throwback.

(notice, this is an example of sarcastic humor, and thus any offense taken is by a guilty conscience. lighten up and laugh.)

slingbadger wrote on Jun 9^th, 2008 at 12:30pm:

WHOA, if I had known it was going to be this serious, I wouldn't have brought it up. My point was that I thought it was interesting that there was a sling action figure, regardless of the religion.

OK then to change the subject completely but still keep the subject title intact let me tell you all about my little "slinging doll" daughter. Some time ago Slingbadger was kind enough to send to send us quite a number of Scouting Commemorative cloth badges. This past weekend my daughter went on a Girl Guide camp and one of the leaders saw the badges and got talking. Turns out this lady is a long time Clan of the Cave Bear fan who is extremely keen to try slinging. I now have a tentative booking for a teaching session next weekend. Ties in neatly with the spreading the slinging message thread doesn't it.

Hey aussie, does she still want patches? Because I've got a few I'd send off... I'll have to dig around and see if I still have your address.

Any cloth badges would be most welcome. Thanks.

hello people - there's a jesus doll with a KUNG FU GRIP !

I don't care what you believe, How is that not hilarious ?

Sometimes I think people take life much too seriously :-)

good luck with the teaching session aussie.

Feel the furious fist of God's love!  AAAHH it hurts! It hurts! But the pain means he loves you!  

slingbadger wrote on Jun 10^th, 2008 at 12:21pm:

Feel the furious fist of God's love!  AAAHH it hurts! It hurts! But the pain means he loves you!

However, this may be nothing compared to the pain Aussie will feel when his daughter discovers she is being referred to as a 'slinger doll'.

On the other hand - I'm not sure I understand 'kids' let alone 'dolls' very well nowadays - so who knows. :)

With a bit of luck she won't find out. But she does sling and I think she is a doll. Have a look.

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Aussie, no offense, but having seen your picture on the other thread...

:o

Yes, she is a doll.

I feel sorry for you when boys start showing up to take her out, but you'll have a stockpile of slings to drive them off with.

gronk... gosh... (falls over laughing)
;D ;D ;D

and by the way, (i know this will lead to my death, lolx10)
she is cute

resized - and I'm with gronk she obviously takes after your wife ;-)

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Gronk wrote on Jun 11^th, 2008 at 12:30am:

Aussie, no offense, but having seen your picture on the other thread... :o Yes, she is a doll. I feel sorry for you when boys start showing up to take her out, but you'll have a stockpile of slings to drive them off with.

Yep people often say she's pretty and then say she looks like me. I tell them that those two statements ar mutually contradictory. BTW she was responsible for that picture and posting hers is my revenge.

So wait, she posted your picture in the other thread?

lol ;D ;D ;D